JBL Nozzle

Anyone got one of the multiple hole JBL nozzles from a long departed bag they would part with? My bag is still fine albeit a little leaky but only has the standard one hole nozzle

Thanks!

@Bagme53

You wrote "...but only has the standard one hole nozzle". That is not correct. The original JBL never had a one-hole nozzle.

The correct, original nozzle is shown here

https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/j-b-l-joy-beauty-life-tyrrells-enema-bag

The original nozzle is about 5/16" OD. The one-hole nozzles were supplied with knockoff bags, sold by Klystra and others.

Mine is the Klystra knockoff, hence the one hole. They also offered the other one but with them no longer around none are available and I don’t think anyone else is reproducing the bag or nozzles.

Not to hijack this thread, but I think I've asked before, what would it take to duplicate the JBL bag and nozzle? Duplicating the nozzle and valve is not an issue with me, it's fabricating the bag, has anybody tried to duplicate one?

I see from the link to the original nozzle, it appears to have four columns of seven holes, that would make 28 holes altogether.

the hoseman1

@hoseman1

1. Duplicating the original JBL nozzle would not be difficult with a small lathe and mill or drill press. The thread is 1/8" NPT.

2. The boss and valve would be somewhat harder since the stopcock is tapered. It's a complex job but doable.

3. The threaded flange that adapts the stopcock assembly to the bag is a straight forward turned brass piece. Again routine to make.

The bag itself is made of rubberized cloth, sewn around the perimeter, and sealed with rubber cement and another "V" folded piece of the same rubberized cloth folded over the outer edge.. The threaded flange (3) is attached to a side of the bag with a circle of rubberized cloth, again cemented.

The hard part is the neck and screw in plug. They'd need to be salvaged from a rubber hot water bottle and attached with cement, strips of rubberized cloth, etc.

If you want a sit-on syringe, it might well be easier to convert an existing hot water bottle with an adapter (3) and use the hose and connector from a Combination Syringe to refill the sit-on bottle from an elevated Fountain Syringe if more solution is desired.

There is another thread titled "Home made JBL Cascade Bag" in which I submitted this post:

"Yes, I made one about 25 years ago. I had seen JBL Cascades in E magazines and nobody was reproducing them at the time.

I cut a section out of a new inner tube, folded the ends over and glued them with rubber cement. But the trick was to make a way to get a nozzle fastened to it. Being a machinist, I had access to a lathe and made the round parts required out of black medical-grade delrin. This included the flange that was attached permanently on the top of the bag, and the nozzle that would plug into it. After the bag was filled, the nozzle would snap into the flange and had an O-ring on it to seal up snugly and not leak. Also, I knew that back pressure could force contaminated water back into the bag, so I included a check valve inside the nozzle when I made it.

I had guessed about how large to make the bag, and it ended up holding a little over 3½ quarts. Close enough.

It's held up well. I still use it to this day."

Please note: I'm inviting any interested lady who wants to try one ....... I'll be glad to oblige. There's nothing like sitting on a warm bag and feeling the flow.

And Hoseman ....... best of luck if you try to making one.

I've made several nozzles from delrin, but haven't fabricated any other parts. I remember when there was a pumpkin style enema bag where the hose attached to a barb fitting in the cap. The original bag hung by a rubber loop on the other end, I think was prone to tearing off. That particular bag wouldn't be difficult to fabricate from a hot/cold water bottle, the very same style as the pumpkin. I found a large capacity ice bag on ebay, of the same style, but I've noticed that sizes vary greatly.

Back to the JBL bag, I've looked for a non-open top enema bag of a four quart capacity, haven't found one yet. If one is available with a screw top, that would provide a good starting point. The actual shape isn't important, it's not like we would be trying to duplicate the exact shape of the JBL. If I could come across such a bag, I might be interested in fabricating the valve/nozzle assembly.

I've never handled a genuine JBL nozzle before, obviously it's easier to fabricate a nozzle with a central hole, but drilling a central hole but not going all the way to the end shouldn't be a problem, just drill a bunch of cross holes. I haven't had much luck getting a high polished surface on delrin, I'm sure there is a technique.

Who is good out there with solidworks or autocad and wants to draw these things up?

the hoseman1

If we are re-engineering the bag I would like to change the shape so that less solution is left in the bag once the enema is completed. I know with my bag there’s always around a quart left that can’t be pushed out because it’s left around the sides. Maybe emulate the reverse shape of ass cheeks and crack with a plastic support structure that goes under the bag to wrap around the edges and force the water out.

Could be a moot point since there’s usually more than enough water in the bag to begin with. I just personally don’t like to see water left after the enema is completed, lol!

Oh, another thing I thought about would be to develop a slip over nozzle that would fit over the standard nozzle. Made of flexible silicone, larger and longer. Could incorporate multiple holes in it, or just the straight shot hole. Maybe something for Silicone Nozzles to investigate? Something similar to the speculum enhancer? Not sure how big the market would be though.

Itd be so nice if someone would take the initiative and reproduce the JBL bag. Silicone Nozzles, if you’re listening...

I never understood the JBL bag, apart from those of those us being into enemas and liking the idea of sitting on it and getting and enema in an unusual way - but for use by those in need of a non-fetish enema, it seemed too much trouble and inefficient. Not criticizing anyone interest in JBL's, just saying...

For me a sit on was the best way to do enemas being solo and not having any one to insert the nozzle the sit on nozzle or J.B.L. bag was better then not

@reddevil

If you've ever sat on a real JBL you would completely understand the attraction. First off, the warm cushion feels very nice nd the ball shaped valve assembly completely plugs your anal area, making retention of the water easy and comfortable. The water simply cannot come out. The more you relax your anus, the better the seal.

The original nozzles, both adult and child, have a large number of tiny hole. There is no "jetting" of the solution, It just sort of oozes into you, gently flooding your colon. In fact, I can't usually even feel the water flow. This doesn't provoke any urge to evacuate hence there is no cramping or urge to poo.

The bag holds about five quart and if you just relax and sit, most all of that goes into your colon, filling it gently and completely from end to end. If a person usually gets full to bursting with a 2 quart bag enema, you will be astounded at how easily the JBL gets in a much larger enema. Also, the slow inflow and resulting increased retention time softens the poo a lot.

When the urge does finally come, one has only to close the spigot, stand up, lift the seat cover, sit and poo. You will think Niagra Falls has be rerouted through your butt. One complete sitting and you're totally empty.

In my opinion, a session sitting on a JBL is a wonderful, cleansing, effortless, sensuous experience.

Someone gifted me a klystra JBL knock off a few years back and I subsequently gifted it to a visiting e friend. Big mistake! I wish I could remember who I gave it to cuz I’d love to have it back. As Sean said, you’d get a total fill up with very little argument from your colon, and sitting on the warm bag was most comforting.

The original JBL nozzle is pretty unique. I've never seen another like it. In fact, the JBL documentation explicitly mentions the nozzle design. Instead of having a single hole, typically about about 1/8" in diameter, the JBL nozzle has 6 rows of tiny holes arranged around the circumference of the nozzle. The good doctor opined that the jet from a single hole prompts an urge to poo prematurely, but I suspect the actual reason is the water flow is slower than from a bag syringe hung a few feet up. In fact, sitting on a JBL is very like getting an enema from a bag elevated about a foot above the injection point.

The JBL's nozzle small holes also reduce the chance of water back flow into the bag.

Given some parenting attitudes in the last century, one can but wonder what role the JBL bag quietly played. I've read that, after a bare bottom spanking, the naughty person had to sit on a JBL. They were allowed to try not to put weight on the bag, either with their arms or legs, but when they tired and relaxed, the enema went in. I'd expect this would be a pretty good attitude adjuster.

Sean,

Thanks for addressing that last post at me, but I don't think I posted on this topic, except for a misplaced one I just posted and removed a few minutes ago. Did you address your post to me for some reason? I do love enemas and JBLs.

Eric

I removed your name.

Hi everyone I love all the information and conversations on this topic would love to know who might still be interested in seeing a jbl style reproduction being produced and sold

Am in the R&D phase of trying to do just that ie reproduce the klystra and especially the jbl in particular to as perfect a detail as possible of course I'd love to hear any comments, concerns, suggestions, ideas or modifications/upgrades you'd prefer to see in the future

Also if anyone would be willing to throw out suggestions on what they think would be a reasonable price to sell this stuff or a custom version for.

Also anyone with a jbl who might be willing to send pictures or to sell there jbl to me would be amazing thank you all in advance

@DaddyBrad

This is just a guess, but if the design of a real JBL were duplicated today it would probably cost more than $200 in quantities of 10 to 50. There are at least 15 parts involved. I would use cloth impregnated with silicone rubber for the bag and RTV as the rubber cement. All other materials pretty much original. A small CNC lathe would help for many parts. I'd not change the design. If you've ever sat on a real JBL, you'd know how well designed it is. I can probably send you pics of any parts you need. As to mods, I'd not do any except for the bag cladding. You probably cannot source or replicate the original stopper, so a substitute would have to be found.

To me, the JBL is very close to the perfect enema appliance. It takes a bit of effort to prepare the bag for use, but that is true of any enema bag. When it's filled, you just put it on a chair or a closed toilet seat ( a chair next to the toilet works best because the transfer is faster) and sit down then open the valve and relax. Within 10 to 15 minutes you will be effortlessly filled with a mighty enema and barely realize it. A real JBL is a near-perfect enema appliance IMO.

A total bowel clearing poo will start within seconds There is no holding a full JBL bag of enema solution.

@DaddyBrad I would buy one.

We used to refer to a JBL smile (just been laid) Smile