"hygienic" circumcision in later ages

I wonder if some Zity members experienced the following (or know men who experienced the following): circumcision (not as routine post birth, as in the US), especially in childhood or teen age, neither for medical reasons (no phimosis, no adherences) nor for religious reasons (Jewish, Muslim..) but more for hygienic or other elective reasons.

(I once read there was a fashion for "hygienic circumcision" in France in the 1970s and am trying to gather information on it.)

Still going strong uncut at 67+ with no plans to change.

Eric

Not personally but I was in touch a few weeks ago with a Belgian woman I saw on a Reddit subforum. Her partner was circumcised. I wrote because it struck me as unusual and she wrote back that there were quite a few circumcised guys that she knew of and and that in parts of Belgium it had been a 'thing' to circumcise at birth.

That surprised me a lot but perhaps it also filtered down to some parts of France?

I often wonder how things are these in France. When I was there a couple of years ago I really wasn't expecting so many French north africans. I can imagine there's an increased call for circumcision these days.

Snoman: It may also be that not so long ago, physicians were quick to recommend circumcision if the foreskin did not retract on its own (or after some painful forcible attempts) by age 6, so a non insignificant proportion of males were circumcised for this reason.

I'd like to know about this fashion of circumcision at birth in Belgium.

"Hygiene" is often cited as a reason to circumcise boys, but I seriously doubt its value in a modern society where people wash regularly. I'm uncircumcised, 44 years old, and have NEVER had any kind of health issue related to my foreskin.

Let's take a poll - have any uncircumcised men on this board had an issue that could have been avoided by circumcision?

Let's take a poll - have any uncircumcised men on this board had an issue that could have been avoided by circumcision?

Nothing on my end ...

Nothing on my end ...

NOPE!

No problems here.

But the Frenulum Praeputii remove (frenulectomy) I can only recommend the benefits are:

1. The foreskin can be pulled further backwards, thus a larger stroke during masturbation is possible and the foreskin is more mobile.

2. The penis looks better, because the foreskin can be pulled back almost without creases.

3. The penis can be kept much better clean.

I completely removed the frenulum myself with three interventions. But every urologist does that too.

https://www.erotikforum.at/galerie/penis-mit-frenulektomie-und-meatotomie.451851/

That dam frenulum is the worst thing ever. Mine has been gone over 50 years and I certainly do not miss it. I guess you could say I did it myself too. Mine tore during sex. I prevented the ends from healing back together each time until it was completely gone. It is such a pleasure being able to pull my foreskin all the way back down the shaft with no painful stretching. It goes all the way so that the inner foreskin is spread out tightly over the whole shaft with no creases and no bending of the tip of the glans which is perfect for dry rubbing masturbation. Every part can be rubbed with my fingers for exquisite feeling and maximum pleasure.

Uncut he looks better!

Circumcision without medical indication is nonsense, I am glad that I still have my foreskin, it is great to masturbate with it. With the cleanliness I have no problems, because I wash the glans (glans) with retracted foreskin, twice a day and after use (masturbation, sex).

But the Frenulum Praeputii remove (frenulectomy) I can only recommend the benefits are:

1. The foreskin can be pulled further backwards, thus a larger stroke during masturbation is possible and the foreskin is more mobile.

2. The penis looks better, because the foreskin can be pulled back almost without creases.

3. The penis can be kept much better clean.

I completely removed the frenulum myself with three interventions. But every urologist does that too.

https://www.erotikforum.at/galerie/penis-mit-frenulektomie-und-meatotomie.451851/

How on Earth did you remove your own penile frenulum without surgical instruments and a lot of pain? How long did it take to heal so you could comfortably pull back and fap again? This is definitely a new one on me.

Eric

How on Earth did you remove your own penile frenulum without surgical instruments and a lot of pain? How long did it take to heal so you could comfortably pull back and fap again? This is definitely a new one on me.

Mine is not completely gone or cut or anything, but it has been stretched enough so that it no longer hinders anything when the foreskin is pulled back. It is just barely visible I would say.

I didn't do this intentionally or anything, though when much younger, back in my teens, the frenulm was very tight and very very sensitive and I too sometimes thought about trying to sever it. Luckily I never had the nerve to try, not because of the possible pain (I often cut out my own ingrown toenail, bloody mess and all) but because of being afraid of botching it and being found out by my parents. What a mess that would have been ... and how to explain it? Mom, Dad, I messed up trying to cut my prick ... ha ha

Anyway, just like with a tight foreskin, stretching, lots of stretching is the answer. If there used to be African tribes that stretched lips to an incredible length, then surely any man can stretch his foreskin and frenulum too. It's just a question of keeping at it.

My penile frenulum is intact and does pull down on its attachment point to the glans when I retract, but it's never been a problem, either for urination or masturbation. I must admit I've had past thoughts about cutting it to relieve the pull-down pressure but never did anything about it. It works fine and is still hygienic at 67.

Eric

Uncut he looks better!

Circumcision without medical indication is nonsense, I am glad that I still have my foreskin, it is great to masturbate with it. With the cleanliness I have no problems, because I wash the glans (glans) with retracted foreskin, twice a day and after use (masturbation, sex).

But the Frenulum Praeputii remove (frenulectomy) I can only recommend the benefits are:

1. The foreskin can be pulled further backwards, thus a larger stroke during masturbation is possible and the foreskin is more mobile.

2. The penis looks better, because the foreskin can be pulled back almost without creases.

3. The penis can be kept much better clean.

I completely removed the frenulum myself with three interventions. But every urologist does that too.

https://www.erotikforum.at/galerie/penis-mit-frenulektomie-und-meatotomie.451851/

Just an alternate opinion.

1) makes no difference to me, as my FS pulls back plenty far for urinating or masturbating. Don't need it back farther.

2) I think this is strictly a meter of opinion, as I'm not sure one looks better than the other, just different.

3) I'm 67+ with no penile or FS problems in all that time including infections, odor or any complaints from lovers. Cleaning in the shower is easy and peasant. You just have to move your FS around to be sure to wash then rinse all the nooks and crannies around your frenulum.

Eric

The very same reasons cultures practice FGM. More hygienic, looks better and all the other BS reasons.

The very same reasons cultures practice FGM. More hygienic, looks better and all the other BS reasons.

I'd say that the cultures that practice FGM, do so because of gender-orientated power politics, for cultural suppression of females. I don't think they rationalize the practice with points on hygiene or looks either. Usually they simply hammer on tradition (it's always been done) or thinking it a rite of passage or probably even more usually as a way of protecting females from the temptations of lust.

I'd say that the cultures that practice FGM, do so because of gender-orientated power politics, for cultural suppression of females. I don't think they rationalize the practice with points on hygiene or looks either. Usually they simply hammer on tradition (it's always been done) or thinking it a rite of passage or probably even more usually as a way of protecting females from the temptations of lust.

Yep, it seems to me they do it to impress on the female that her body belongs to the man. She is there for the mans pleasure only and she should get no personal pleasure from it.

My question would be: why do I get more pleasure out of giving my woman pleasure using the very parts they remove than I do inserting myself into her hole?

They are NUTS!

Here in Spain, all the people that I know circumcised at early or teen ages have been for medical reasons.

I suppose that today, with all the muslim migrants, there’re quite a lot of young guys circumcised as children (they use to do when they go to their countries on holidays), but without election, and for religious/tradition reasons.

The few only elective/cosmetic cases that I know have been quite older. My own circumcision could be considered elective because It wasn’t strictly necessary from a medical point of view.

I also know a couple of cases of circumcision at quite old ages due to diabetis.

But to be an elective surgery you should give consent, something people under 18 yo can’t.

I had an elective circumcision aged 57. It's something I'd always wanted, simply as I prefer the look and feel. (Why it took me so long is another story!) I know, via various dedicated message boards, many men in various countries who have done the same aged 18+ - either for cosmetic or hygiene reasons, and not religious or medical ones.

In Poland, circumcision is performed mainly due to phimosis. However, I have read statements from women who claimed that they would have their son circumcised for aesthetic and hygienic reasons.

I love that “hygenic” BS. I have NEVER had any problem with it, neither had any of my friends. This should be considered an abuse in every modern society.