How Much Soap is Too Much

Bronners peppermint is what you want. I would start out with a few tablespoons, it doesn't take much.

Bronners peppermint is what you want. I would start out with a few tablespoons, it doesn't take much.

MJ,

Thanks. I already have a bottle of that, but haven’t used it for a long time. A few tablespoons for how much enema? Perhaps 3-4 TBSP in a 4 quart bag? Less? More?

Eric

Since I started using Dr. Bronner's liquid soap I have been experimenting to see what the right amount to use to get a good cleaning but not be overly crampy. I tried using a couple of teaspoons per quart in a 3-4 quart enema a couple of months ago but found that I got very light headed and had to sit for quite awhile after expelling. At first I thought perhaps I had used too much soap but, in retrospect, I believe I had gotten the temperature of the enema water too high because I had some cramps but not any that were too severe. So, I think the temperature was more of a factor. Since then I have been doing only about one tablespoon per quart which is fine but I feel I could add more.

I prefer using Dr Bonners Peppermint Castile soap. The concentration of soap is 1 oz. of Dr. Bonners per quart of water for the first 2 quarts. As additional Quarts of water are added the soap used per qt. is reduced to 15 ml or ½oz

Found that for me and others that a 4 quart enema solution with 3oz of Bonners in it is the max that many people can tolerate. More soap tends to elicit a toxic response. Individuals feel like they have a bad case of the flu. To make the solution more effective cleaning out, 6-8oz. of USP grade vegetable glycerin is added.

With the Glycerin this becomes an aggressive clean out enema. This works and so this is my maximum amount of soap used.

If it stings very badly and makes the person receiving the enema scream in agony, it is too much and you should stop at once. DO NOT CONTINUE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If it stings very badly and makes the person receiving the enema scream in agony, it is too much and you should stop at once. DO NOT CONTINUE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

No, I'd be worried about the neighbors hearing the screams 😉

My favorite is still Ivory. I make it the way my mother did using a kitchen mixing bowl that is filled with warm water and the bar of Ivory swished around until the water is a cloudy white. This is far less concentrated than if it looks like skim milk. Then then bar is removed and the solution poured into the enema bag. If I'm making one in my enema can the solution needs to look the same, but is far easier because no mixing bowl is required. This solution does not burn and can be held for several minutes. The clean out is quite good and I've never done a rinse.

How much is too much? If you're somewhat lacking in the common sense department, too much is the amount you never use again.

I think when you get nauseated, you have too much soap in your bag. Been there and done that.

When your stomach is beyond cramping after ? Been there. Done that.

My favorite is still Ivory. The clean out is quite good and I've never done a rinse.

I have talked to many members who got them from mom and most never got a rinse. My mom occasionally gave them for severe constipation and she never gave a rinse either that I can remember.

I remember walking into the bathroom with Ivory already wafting in the air and waiting for a bottom ( mine ). I might have to take a trip down memory lane soon. Been using Dr. Bronner's, and depending if I want flowers coming out my ass ( Lavender ), Peppermint for a little burn, or my most recent, Tea tree, which gives me some cramping, but a through clean out for sure.

Been a long time since J & J that others talk about.

No, I'd be worried about the neighbors hearing the screams 😉

Phh, thats why gags are invented 😜

The MORE THE MERRIER, if im blowing bubbles ive succeeded. Ive never had a problem and just got some peppermint dr bronners. Feels greaaat in there!

Years ago I often enjoyed a hot very soapy enema early in the morning before work. The company placed trailers outside the main factory building for extra office space and a coworker friend and I had one small trailer all to ourselves. Many enema mornings I could smell a strong soap scent as I sat at my desk.. there was no wetness leaking, but the smell was very distinct (to me). I don't know if anyone else ever smelled it - hopefully they assumed I'd just washed my hands.

I have been interested in this subject. I have tried bar Ivory, bar Dr. B, bar Kirk, but my favorite has been J & J baby shampoo. With J & J, I get an excellent clean out and no cramps. With the others, the first enema goes in fine, but any subsequent enemas a re tough. It is like the colon is in spasm. I investigated this and found that the “No more tears” recipe of J & J is related to pH (I forget the exact number, but slightly alkaline), however, I was able to find a medical article which told the pH of the colon and low and behold the pH of J & J is the same as the colon. An enema buddy used his pool pH kit and verified this with each solution. I think this is why adding baking soda make an enema so much easier to hold; in fact when I have done them, the enema does not come out and I pee it out through the day (yuk).

Here is my question: what about hard versus soft water? I have VERY hard water - don't get a lot, if any, suds and I am using what seems to be more soap to get an effect than those quoted here - for example, a teaspoon of Dr. B per quart is not enough. Has anyone else found a correlation of hard and soft water and amount of soap needed/used?

I work on water systems as a profession. The harder the water the more soap it takes to clean anything. The biggest complaint is soap usage, scales and spots on your cookware / drinking glasses, stains.

Bet your supply is from a well source. If so…. consider purchasing a water softener with a pre filter to remove rust. If you have these, and still having issues, $10 bucks tells me your softener is done.

You will enjoy lathering up in the shower, use less water / soap to get clean, save your appliances agony, and you'd be surprised with the rest.

Based on where you live, Pennsylvania has high iron / sediment / rust issues on natural aquifiers in many cases.

OK. My 2 cents, but doing this for 40 years

I have been lurking around and finally decided it is time to contribute about my soapy enema experiences and recollections. I grew up in the sixties and had numerous soapy enemas as a child, as well as some suppositories. I don't remember the soapy enemas being something I craved or enjoyed but they were certainly not something to be feared or loathed, unless it was a punishment soapy enema which was preceded by a spanking. I had two sisters, one older and one younger. My mother and grandmother routinely administered soapy enemas.

The downstairs bathroom door was very seldom closed so it was not unheard of to get a brief glimpse of my sisters receiving their treatment or see them on the toilet after they had been filled. It didn't seem proper to stand and watch the complete procedure, but I tried to walk by the bathroom several times when I knew someone was being flushed and I know my sisters saw me in the same position. I don't know if Mom took enemas herself, but I do know that my grandma would occasionally come over to do Mom when she needed one but these were closed-door affairs. I can only imagine Mom returned the favor to Grandma when requested. I would always use the bathroom as soon as they were done so I could smell any lingering fragrances from their soapy enemas and see the enema bag and nozzle drying. I'd imagine those mature women over each other’s knee inserting the nozzle into their bottom and administering a full bag of soapsuds and then sitting on the toilet expelling it. It was normally noted at supper if Mom was planning to administer an soapy enema to anyone later that evening, even Grandma was allowed to order one for an soapy enema. It was embarrassing to have everyone know when I was soon to be getting one, but it also excited me to hear that someone else would be naked and over the knee for an soapy enema in a short while.

I remember the black Bakelite rectal nozzle being used when I was younger, but eventually we all graduated to the larger vaginal nozzle. I knew the difference and secretly found it humiliating that this nozzle intended for female's sexual parts would be used in my bottom, but it worked well and was easier to retain. The bag hung from the shower rod and a tub of cold cream was nearby.

On those occasions when more than one of us was going to be getting a soapy enema, the first person was allowed to expel on the toilet for about 10 or 15 minutes before Mom called the next one for their soapy enema. It was always a bit disgusting to be called into the bathroom while someone else was still on the toilet and the room smelled from their releases, but Mom was in charge. The same nozzle was always used and simply relubricated and reinserted.

I’ve found that oatmeal and honey goat milk soap is the most mild. I actually tried just a bit ago (see photo in my latest album) to make a very strong solution by swishing and dipping the bar of soap into the bag for a good few minutes. It was strong, but not unbearable. I got a cramp and a wave of peristalsis about 3 liters in, but I was able to relax and breathe through it to continue and finish the bag. I couldn’t retain it at all, though; once I heard the lovely sucking sound of a job well done, I had to expel immediately.

I’ve comfortably held milder solutions with this same goat milk soap for much longer, but I agree with @Annie2 that Bronner’s is quite strong and causes a very strong sensation of urgency. I’ve found that about 30ml max in a gallon is comfortable, less when using the ones with essential oils. The almond in particular is not fun, but eucalyptus and lavender have been fine for me. I keep a bottle of the unscented around just for enemas, and the peppermint is a special treat since it leaves you tingling, but again it’s strong. I’ve definitely used too much soap in the past and it left me dry heaving until I was fully rinsed out again, which can be a difficult situation to relax in, further compounding the bad effects of too much soap. That’s not personally super fun for me, so I avoid it.

With all that said, I’ve done 2-3L M&M enemas a dozen times, and those typically have fewer lingering effects once properly rinsed out. They definitely make me sweat and feel like I’m dying though, so I only feel like one in a very special occasion. I’ve found colonics to be much more enjoyable and easier on my body, so now that I have a few decent ways to take them, that’s been my go-to for days when I have more time to enjoy a longer session.

Lastly, make sure to stay hydrated! I’ve found that a stomach empty of food plus continuously sipping juice and water or a hydration sports mix with electrolytes also helps me feel great after a session instead of worn out.

When it makes you feel nauseous, your body temperature spirals quickly, your arms start to emit sweat & you feel your head spinning close to passing out.

I have not used too much recently but I remember using too much liquid Ivory many years ago. The two quart bag was filled with hot water and a very strong concentration made up (not measured but several squirts). This was when the Ivory came in a white pump dispenser that looked like a bar of soap. The resultant cramps were severe and rear was very sore. Some nausea as well. Not a fun experience and not repeated. Even if the water is very sudsy now (feels slippery to the touch) with Ivory bar soap, its not too strong and produces a very good cleanout without excessive cramping and without nausea.

@vito_paster

Liquid soaps should not be used, except liquid Castile ‘enema soap’. Most liquids are, in fact, detergents and will cause a LOT of irritation.

Really, not a lot of soap is needed to greatly increase the poo power of an enema. The traditional couple of swishes of Ivory bar soap in a bag of comfortably warm water will do the trick.

In fact, a strong argument can be made that a bag full of dilute soap solution is far more effective in completely cleaning someone out, than a bag of much stronger soap solution. The dilute solution will go in far more easily, because the solution does not immediately cause cramping, which tends to prevent the solution from going higher into the recipients colon. A dilute solution can also be retained much longer, giving it a chance to soften hard poo so that the evacuation is easier on the anal passage when it does happen.

The enema I find most cleansing is given with a vintage Rexall Roxbury fountain syringe and adult rectal nozzle, filled fully with noticeably warm water and a swish of Ivory bar soap. I get the enema lying on my tummy, with the bag hung at about 2 feet. It takes about 5 minutes to all run in, usually without pauses, and I feel no urge for perhaps another 5 minutes. Then the urge rapidly becomes intense promptly followed by a very complete poo.

MO

I had been using a long-time recipe with Dr.Bronner's but have made the switch to using Shea Butter liquid body wash soap- with added essential oils and baking soda. The Shea Butter liquid body soap is mild yet very soapy sudsy. It makes for an excellent soapsuds enema. The effect is not immediately felt which allows for the complete enema to be taken. However, when held for say 4 or 5 minutes, the urge to use the toilet gradually increases requiring panting like a puppy to aid in retention. When the cramping increases to the desired level, the enema is expelled with satisfactory results everytime. ……michael https://en.zity.biz/gallery/image/16551

@vito_paster

Liquid soaps should not be used, except liquid Castile ‘enema soap’. Most liquids are, in fact, detergents and will cause a LOT of irritation.

Really, not a lot of soap is needed to greatly increase the poo power of an enema. The traditional couple of swishes of Ivory bar soap in a bag of comfortably warm water will do the trick.

In fact, a strong argument can be made that a bag full of dilute soap solution is far more effective in completely cleaning someone out, than a bag of much stronger soap solution. The dilute solution will go in far more easily, because the solution does not immediately cause cramping, which tends to prevent the solution from going higher into the recipients colon. A dilute solution can also be retained much longer, giving it a chance to soften hard poo so that the evacuation is easier on the anal passage when it does happen.

The enema I find most cleansing is given with a vintage Rexall Roxbury fountain syringe and adult rectal nozzle, filled fully with noticeably warm water and a swish of Ivory bar soap. I get the enema lying on my tummy, with the bag hung at about 2 feet. It takes about 5 minutes to all run in, usually without pauses, and I feel no urge for perhaps another 5 minutes. Then the urge rapidly becomes intense promptly followed by a very complete poo.

MO

I thought that this was a very reasonable post. You want an enema that works but unless you are a sadist the enema should be pleasant and comfortable yet also effective.

Some of us here have or do use soapsticks, Ivory in many cases. I keep too small to use soap because it slips right out of my hands and keeps the pieces in an old margarine container. I keep a rotary cheese or veggie grater in my enema bathroom. A couple of weeks ago, I took many pieces and grated them up into a one-liter container. I added three quarts of reasonably warm water to the soap. I took the three quarts and enjoyed the cramps. After expelling the contents of my colon, I squeezed the bulb in the hose and could not get the balance out of the hose. The solution had begun to gel back into soap. I've done this many times, with no ill effects. I've had eight colonoscopies over the years, and my colon looks excellent.

There's too much soap when the bubbles come out of your ears?

There’s too much soap when the bubbles come out of your ears?

Wow. I was thinking the “too much” indicator bubbles would come out of your nose. You’d better check for perforated eardrums.

Eric

Wow. I was thinking the “too much” indicator bubbles would come out of your nose. You’d better check for perforated eardrums.

How about if you can taste it in your mouth 😜…

This only happens with solid (sodium hydroxide saponification) soaps. When the cooling of the enema liquid trying to flow through the hose causes the solution to congeal in the hose. I've had that happen exactly once. It was a really super soapy solution. I was thoroughly cleaned out after that. But the soapy solution also sensitized my rectum to the point where it was very difficult to insert a simple nozzle to rinse the soap solution out. Eventually, I got the nozzle to rinse out inserted. It took a progression of rinses to remove the majority of the soap.

There was a wave of nausea at the beginning of the cramps/contractions that subsided fairly quickly.

How about if you can taste it in your mouth 😜…

Ahhh, good point, @reddevil. Then you can probably keep it out of your nose and ears. But only if you’re not lying down, like I am during all my enemas…………. I don’t like soap in my nose or mouth, but I’m probably safe, since I never use more than 2 tsp Castile soap/quart, and in 55 years of enemas never exceeded 5 quarts.

Eric