Help to find a nozzle needed

I’ve been looking around the internet, just found Zity, and from here Silicone Nozzles.

Now I need some help. I’m female, 5’8” average build, and I am able to take a 2 to 2 1/2 quarts easily. Here is what I want. A nozzle/dildo that I can get inside past the sigmoid and all the way across. When I was a kid I had that done to me with what I have now learned is a colon tube. So, about how long, what stiffness, and suggested diameter. I have enjoyed anal sex, but I’m still pretty tight, I’ve seen fisting videos, and, no I can’t open that wide.

What lube?

Do I need to clean out with an enema first? I don’t mind messy, but is there any risk or reward if I don’t clean out?

I’ve also seen the retention nozzles, what is best? I’ve tried holding an enema, but 15 minutes seems to be my limit, but if I do seal myself what is a safe retention time? Best temperature for long holds. I’ve also wondered about pain releavers like ibuprofen or even antispasmodics for long retention.

Lots of questions, all suggestions welcome.

Wendy

Wendy1975,

I'll chime in if I have any other answers others more equipped don't address, but a question. I do pretty large long retentions sometimes, like up to 3-4 q for up to an hour. Why would you need a pain reliever like ibuprofen for a retention? If you're experiencing enough abdominal pain to be relieved you need to lower your volume and not experience that pain. It might be a sign of dangerous overfilling.

Eric

@Wendy1975

Temperature wise the colder the better really, never above body temperature

Best to clean out first to avoid compaction

I am not sure if sterile lube should be recommended for this, hopefully someone else will confirm

Eric, it isn’t so much pain, that I would consider any danger, it’s just that after a while it gets crampy, but if I get past the wave I can usually go another 10 minutes or so. I wonder if Midol would help, it is a cramp relieving medicine. I wonder if anyone has tried it.

@Wendy1975

Everyone has different preferences, however, for me, deep play is always preceded by a series of enemas. Now, if I’m using a colon tube, the enemas are themselves part of the deep play, but if I want to enjoy deep insertion of toys then I prefer the path to be cleared.

The toy or nozzle you use will constrain the lube you use. Commonly accepted is that silicone lube should not be used with silicone toys. Anything water based is pretty universal. Some, myself included, like to use coconut oil while others dismiss that.

As for toys, the depth you’re looking to achieve makes me think you want something in the 24” range and I’d suggest 1.5” diameter and somewhat flexible. Silicone Nozzles have several options that would fit the bill and you va configure them to your own taste.

Hope this helps.

@Wendy1975, I highly recommend Silicone Nozzles. They have a wide variety in shapes and sizes as well as lengths. You can buy from them with confidence that you'll get a quality product.

Since you are just getting back into enemas, I would suggest you start with the smaller diameters with regard to your nozzle purchases. One of my first Silicone Nozzle purchases was the Model F. They also have a longer version of this nozzle/tube which is the CT-63, if I'm not mistaken. Nonetheless, I'd opt for one of those nozzles in a #12 softness to ensure a pleasant experience.

And one more thing, I don't use anything that goes deep until I've had a couple of cleansing enemas with a shorter nozzle. It's more pleasant and you'll have a far greater chance of inserting the nozzle higher in your colon.

Welcome to Zity!!

Deb

@Wendy1975

My two cents worth:

Size matters, but for depth you probably need to start with something smaller. Personally, I like the Siliconenozzles CT-75 (1-inch tube). I have quite a collection of silicone nozzles. I like the slightly larger diameter because it is small enough to thread through but larger enough without much chance of folding over. A #18 firmness is my personal preference (I like translucent tubes), but as the tubes increase in diameter, I will go with a softer silicone. The tube is also large enough that I'm less concerned with perforating the colon.

I know my anatomy and know I have a "long" sigmoid (as in the length above the rectum is pretty long before making the turn to and up the descending colon). It's about 28 inches from my anus to the turn at the splenic flexure. The turn is complete by 32 inches and the nose of the tube is then threading through the transverse colon.

The hardest turn for my longest tubes to make is at the hepatic flexure. Apparently it is a really sharp turn for me. At more than 44 inches at this point, it can be areal challenge and if it doesn't look like the turn is going to be made, I'll stop at this point. When the turn "opens up," it's a pretty remarkable feeling. My longest tube in this diameter is 54 inches. But filling from this deep is a very different feeling from a more normal enema.

Retention: retention nozzles help but the enema solution (temperature, composition, volume) seems to matter as much. The closer you get to your maximum volume capacity, the shorter the hold time is likely to be. Half to two-thirds of your maximum will probably be the optimum volume. Temperature is best when warm, not hot. The enema solution I find the most easy to hold is baking soda.

A quick clean-out enema makes my subsequent enemas more pleasant.

For a bit more of a kick,I like shaved Ivory soap to be dissolved in the solution. It reminds me of the enemas my mom used to give me. With this type of enema solution, I go for the inflatable double balloon nozzle. For more of a kick, I use soap and glycerin but I really need the time to fully enjoy thsi type of enema (including rinse and a final calming baking soda enema). The inflatable nozzle can stretch your internals a fair amount to seal everything in. But if I really want a seal, I have some pretty big silicone retention nozzles. They do a good job of sealing AND there is no mistaking that there is a very firm and large nozzle sealing me up.

Lube: a good water soluble lube is my favorite. The generic store version is fine. The best one I've found is "Fuck Water" (look it up on Amazon). Thinner and very slippery. Don't use silicone lubes on silicone nozzles. Petroleum jellies can be tough on certain softer flexible polymers. I also use the powdered J-Lube. Just wet and spread. Lasts a really longtime. You can also mix it up to make your own liquid lube, but it takes some time to do that correctly.

I think I've contributed my thoughts to questions.

Welcome to Zity. Hopefully, you'll find those of us who post publicly are not "jerks."

Like Enema Runner I have the long and twisty sigmoid, and it probably is close to the length of his (I know that 20" inserted puts me close to the turn to the descending - would like to explore further but it is hard to do on your own and wife not interested yet). I have tried a couple times, both with small and larger tubes. Larger and very flexible is probably your best mix. As Enema Runner noted it is less likely to kink up. With the smaller tube I was very excited several times that it seemed to be going in well, but then found out that it was just forming loops in the rectum and sigmoid.

You do want it to be very flexible otherwise it will be difficult and uncomfortable to get around the flextures and curves.

Other benefits are a lower risk of punctures and I also find that it's less likely to get "caught" on the various folds of the intestine, which makes insertion easier.

I don't do it as often as he does because of the difficulty, probably only done it about 10 times total in the past 4 years, but it is kind of a fun exercise and definitely a different feel than a "normal" enema.

Moliere... Thanks for this info. I've been going back and forth between skinny (36 to 40fr) and something larger. I think you've convinced me to try the CT63 from S.N. Right now I'm thinking about 36 to 42". I liked the skinny so that I could lay in the bathtub and have the enema flowing in, but being able to just open my anus and let the water flow out. Imagine an open top bag or bucket hanging under the showerhead, water running (so unlimited volume) and I could control the filling and releasing. This was of course after a couple of high cleansing enemas so that I'm only dealing with water in the tub.

Like Enema Runner I have the long and twisty sigmoid, and it probably is close to the length of his.

I'm not sure about my sigmoid, but I have a short rectum. It's about 4 /2 inches. I can bottom out (minor pun intended) with an ordinary glass mercury rectal thermometer.

I grew up with colon tubes but have only gotten one inserted without coiling up in the recto-sigmoid area and even poking back out through my anus when I thought it was going in. I did recently find a way that seems to work though. I use a foley catheter (28-30 fr w/ a 30cc balloon), I inflate the baloon to a little below it's capacity once inside, get in a knee chest position and gently slide it in, while taking water. Try to fill the rectum before advancing the tube.

I'm guessing the baloon kind of 'flattens out' the sigmoid. That, and the water filling it, make it relatively easy to insert it full length (30" ap). To me, there's little like a super high enema, especially given by a playful friend. I also get these from time to time at the clinic I go to. They don't use a foley cath, but do still use red rubber rectal tubes (say that 5 times fast) I usually get a 28fr, but have gotten a 32fr a few times. While they are sometimes enjoyable and I enjoy medfet fantasies, the real deal isn't always so much fun.

I recently got a Siliconenozzzles Model B. I have had difficulty learning to put it in, but when I do get it in all of the way, it blocks the water from coming back to the rectum and it all goes up and into the colon, which is what I want. I get a complete clean out using it. Give it a try.

hankb

I build my own nozzles and, as the cost is relatively low for me, I've tried different types of them. Normally I use hard nozzles, up to 40cm, with a diameter that varies between 10 and 38mm and are my favorites. I also have a rectal probe (there is a picture in one of my albums) but I think it can become dangerous because it is relatively rigid but subtle. I have also made some colon tubes in silicone but I have difficulty inserting them because if they are thin or soft they tend to roll up in the rectum, while if less soft they do not work better than the rigid ones.

I don't know how you can totally take trial and error out of it, but one really good place to start is a 5-inch flexible nozzle.

You may prefer a rigid nozzle, some people do, but yopu probably want to make your first rigid nozzle a 3-inch long with a 1/2-inch flare

You WILL end up trying different things