Did mom know the psychological impact of giving you enemas?

@Allie80 :

My mom only did what my doctor told her to do and she never meant to do anything other than treat my constipation....

Not to watch the constipation of his children can also have consequences.

It is then possible that the discovery of enema is made in hospitals.

The parents have to make what they believe at the time when they make it come what may then!

Haunted is it very serious? We are on Ziti and everything goes well.

My mom only did what my doctor told her to do and she never meant to do anything other than treat my constipation. Even though she never meant to, I ended up with a life long anal obsession that stated with the enemas that I got from her when I was six years old. My mom never meant to turn me into an anal pervert, but it happened, which is why I don't think that kids should have anything put up their butt unless it is the absolute last resort. .

My point exactly. I think Susie pointed out once that there is an anal development phase in a child's life that is from 4 to 6 and while it doesn't happen every time, getting stimulated during that age can lead to an anal imprint. It happened to Allie and it happened to me. gwhap pointed out that he got it and his sisters didn't. I was the same way, the only one (that I know of) with a definite kink. It happens, it isn't a myth. This site wouldn't be filled with klismo's unless it did. ( Sorry luvmawater but I think klismos exist)

Allie 80 points out that if you are here with an anal fetish, including enemas why would you possibly subject your child to that when a dose of prune juice or adding veggies and a glass or two of water can accomplish the same thing. There are times when there is no alternative but those times are far and few in between. It certainly isn't once a week. My kids never had one growing up and I breathe a sigh of relief because of it.

It wasn't the 50s, and I don't know how much was concern over altering my expression of sexuality vs the fact that I obviously didn't like enemas, but my mom definitely attempted to minimize the interventions, be they enemas or suppositories. Possibly too much, as in retrospect I realize that I was uncomfortable much of the time. Yes, Moppy, there were always oral interventions that were tweaked throughout my childhood but they didn't always work.

Even today as an adult, I think about anal stuff all the time...and I know exactly where that came from. It is horrifying to me

What is so horrifying about having an anal fetish/liking anal stimulation? It is not as if this is such an uncommon thing. Perhaps not having it is odd. I really see no reason to get worked up over liking anal stimulation.

If you like it, then enjoy it. With someone if you can or on your own if you can't.

If you like it, then enjoy it. With someone if you can or on your own if you can't.

Amen Brother!

What is so horrifying about having an anal fetish/liking anal stimulation? It is not as if this is such an uncommon thing. Perhaps not having it is odd. I really see no reason to get worked up over liking anal stimulation.

If you like it, then enjoy it. With someone if you can or on your own if you can't.

Oh I'm not horrified that I have an anal fetish, it horrifies me that this enema/anal/sex thing came from what my mom did to me. That just seems wrong and weird to to me. And embarrassing! My mom (my parents for that matter) never even talked about sex with me. No one ever even told me what a period was so when I got it I thought I was dying. It's super awkward that this weird sex thing came from my mom.

Oh I'm not horrified that I have an anal fetish, it horrifies me that this enema/anal/sex thing came from what my mom did to me.

@allie80

I'm of the belief that some of us were simply wired with an anal fetish/obsession. Maybe enemas as a child were our first introduction to our fetish - but not necessarily the cause of the fetish. Don't blame your Mom - she was doing what she thought was the right thing. I think you anal fetish would have come about even if you didn't get enemas as a child.

My 2 cents 😃

@allie80

I'm of the belief that some of us were simply wired with an anal fetish/obsession. Maybe enemas as a child were our first introduction to our fetish - but not necessarily the cause of the fetish.

Well I'll respectfully disagree with your assessment. I think the enemas were the cause.

While the suppositiories and enemas may have contributed to my becoming anally erotic, I personally am convinced that just being constipated so often and having my attention on my pelvis was as great and probably greater as a factor. I don't look on anything that was done for the constipation as being sexual abuse or assault, though it was clearly done for medical purposes and there wasn't any play or sexualization.

Oh I'm not horrified that I have an anal fetish, it horrifies me that this enema/anal/sex thing came from what my mom did to me.

Just remember that not everything you read on the Internet - or here - is NOT necessarily true.

There are WAY too many self-proclaimed psychologists around that will proclaim some fetish or trauma will be traceable to your mother or father or [fill in the person or act]. Just ignore them. Your social and mental development is too complex to assign to a single "cause".

If your fetish/preference is enjoyable to you [and your partner], just enjoy it! If you have been traumatized to the extent that it still bothers you, seek PROFESSIONAL help in person, not here.

This is one of those, What came first, the chicken or the egg?

Did I enjoy the enemas from mom because they were satisfying an anal itch I was born with? After all, the enema nozzle is one of the few things intended to go in there rather than the crayons, pencils, fingers, and other things I put in there?

Or, did the occasional enema I got cause the fetish that I have enjoyed ever since?

I don't think mom knew how much I enjoyed enemas. But in those days many kids my age got enemas so there was nothing unusual about that. Did all of my friends and cousins who got enemas or suppositories from their mom turn out like me? I doubt it. So what is the difference, that makes some of us like enemas and others swear they will never have another enema again?

It's funny that there's so much debate over something I didn't even know existed until I was in my 20's and working in a drug store. I was "facing" the shelves (straightening them up) and I was in the medicine/first aid aisle. I found the Fleets boxes and saw the drawings of how to administer them and I thought "WHAT THE HELL?!!"

I was a child in the 70's, a teen in the 80's and my mom never administered them to me, even though I occasionally had minor constipation. She had other means of helping, prune juice, for example, or I think I had to take Metamucil for a while too (nasty stuff then!). I never had suppositories for constipation either (only if I was puking my guts up).

To say the least, was shocked then, when I saw that there were medications that went up your butt. Once I was actually working IN the pharmacy, as a clerk, I learned more about it. I have always been interested in the medical field and I read books in the library, @Miss_Raven and I bought some (once we were adults and made our own money), and we read and read and learned. At one point we were quite knowledgeable about a lot of things medical, well, more than the "Average Joe". Still, neither of us experienced an enema until about I guess close to two years ago. A fellow Zity member talked us through them on Skype. We didn't really find them sexual, but we both agree that it would be much more interesting to have a male partner giving us one, rather than each other (best friends for almost 34 years).

This is conflicting. I was given one fleet as a child when I had severe constipation and then never recieved the bag or bulbs or anything like that. I did continue the fleets into my teens so could just be the way I'm wired. I'm sure it didn't have anything truly to do with my mom who was just trying to help me feel better. I mean I was watching birth videos at 3 and pretending to be the patient and doctor even into late childhood pretty sure it is my genetics.

@Allie80, your recent comments regarding the subject Did mom know the psychological impact of giving you enemas? is so disconcerting and sad because living your life guilt ridden is not a good life. None of us really know where our fetishes and desires come from. They could be passed on to us by our forebears or maybe they are just inborn at the moment of conception or birth. There are so many so-called experts who tell us this or that and we accept it as absolute truth when they don’t know for sure themselves and they could well have doubts also but they have to be the “expert” for whatever reason.

Be happy with who you are. I love the term, “be happy in your own skin”. It’s the only one you have for the present. One day we will all know the truth but not while in this “skin”.

I'm sure getting enemas from my Mom as a kid had a lot to do with me getting hooked on them. The older neighbor girl who was definitely into them and involved me in her play also had a great deal of influence on how much I liked anal stimulation.

They are sexual for me. Therefore my kids never got them.

It is my kink and no matter how or why I got here, I like them and the anal stimulation with or without enemas. I've been lucky to find a woman who said, "What the hell? Why not?" Now here I am.

I'm of the opinion that kids should not get enemas from parents, or aunts, or that creepy old uncle. Especially if the one giving the enema attaches any hint of sexuality to them, in their own mind. Leave the kids out of it.

It happened. I love enemas. I have a consenting adult partner who has a body that just won't quit and is the real deal in every other respect.

I don't blame Mom. I just don't know what the deal was. That is history.

Now is now.

It's my kink. It ends with me.

Not all of my enemas are sexual. It's interesting, and I can't really pinpoint exactly what flips the switch.

With my kids? Hmm. I guess if it was appropriate I would. I know how much I hate and hated being blocked up. I would make damn sure it was appropriate, not the first option, and not sexual. Ideally I would have my wife do it.

This topic is based on a controversial idea: "Did mom know the psychological impact of giving you enemas?" It assumes 1) childhood enemas have a psychological impact leading to Klismaphilia and 2) moms either realize it or don't. I think these assumptions complicate our quest for the truth.

I don't know if enemas made me a Klismo or not. I only remember a handful of times when I was led into the bathroom for an enema. I didn't like them; they were uncomfortable and embarrassing. I never got any after reaching puberty. Maybe my mom wanted to avoid any chance of my enemas becoming associated with sexuality. Either that or she found out I was borrowing her douche bulb at bath time and figured I was taking care of my elimination problems myself.

I believe that my fetish stems from anal eroticism. I remember that when I was 5 years old, my mom used a rectal thermometer on me. I borrowed that, too, when I was supposed to be napping. I often stuck things in my butt during nap time. I was interested in all things anal from a very young age before I knew what sex was. For me it was all about pleasurable sensations.

One time, at age 6, I was playing in the chicken coop with my younger sister (age 4) and I talked her into laying a large flat rock on my abdomen. It felt good, like when I had to "go". I found that sensation pleasurable. Weird, huh?

No, I don't believe my mom was deliberately setting me up to be a Klismo. Why couldn't the cause have been something as simple as being triggered by the enjoyment derived from expelling whether naturally or following an enema?

My Klismaphilia might have been affected by my potty training. I searched the Net and found: "Freud believed that the primary focus of the libido was on controlling bladder and bowel movements."

I also found: "An anal personality, according to classic Freudian psychoanalysis, has traits that arose in the anal phase of psychosexual development in which defecation constituted the primary source of pleasure and retention of faeces is viewed as a manifestation of defiance to a parent figure."

Anal phase? Rebellion? I don't know how much credence people put in Freud anymore, but his theories gained a lot of attention.

I think there's more than one reason how I might have developed my fetish, so I'm going to let my mom off the hook.

I never had a medically necessary enema from anyone.

All my enemas were for the fun of it. I started when I was eight years old.

I have only myself to "blame" for my fetish, 😁 although I suppose if I didn't want to take personal responsibility for it I could say an adult in the house bought a fleet enema that I found in the bathroom vanity and I read the instructions on the box and gave myself my first enema.

I did pour out the fleet solution into a glass and I used plain water and then cleaned the bottle and refilled it with the fleet solution. My first enema would probably have been my one and only enema if I had used the actual fleet solution. It would have burned my eight year old ass.

@switchablesusie I was reading and thinking smart girl. Dump that sodium phosphate.

Don't blame your Mom - she was doing what she thought was the right thing. I think you anal fetish would have come about even if you didn't get enemas as a child.

I don't hold it against her or anything and it has not had a negative impact on our relationship. I love my mom! I know that she was a good mom then as well and just did what she was supposed to do. It's just wired to me where this all came from, and for me this all started with the enemas she gave me. I suppose this is probably why this whole thing is so embarrassing to me, because of where it came from.

Anyways, thanks for your 2¢ ?

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Just remember that not everything you read on the Internet - or here - is NOT necessarily true.

I don't believe you ??

There are WAY too many self-proclaimed psychologists around that will proclaim some fetish or trauma will be traceable to your mother or father or [fill in the person or act]. Just ignore them. Your social and mental development is too complex to assign to a single "cause".

If your fetish/preference is enjoyable to you [and your partner], just enjoy it! If you have been traumatized to the extent that it still bothers you, seek PROFESSIONAL help in person, not here.

i know that there are many things that have contributed to who I am today, but the enema thing was a major event. As a child, I never thought about and fantasized about anybody putting stuff up my ass until I had to have enemas. And it wasn't just the enemas, it was being forced into doing something that was embarrassing and humiliating to me. The whole situation had a big impact on me then and has had a big impact on who I am today.

Oh and I am enjoying it! ? I have come to a point in my life where I have accepted this as probably my greatest sexual pleasure, which maybe was hard for me to accept when I was younger. This thing is part of who I am today and I accept that. I think coming here to Zity and connecting with other people has been huge because I don't feel so alone in this anymore, which was something that really did bother me.

@Sallyxx I'm a psych major and Freud's psychosexual explanations always was strange to me.

Reading this thread only re-enforces my belief that we klismos were born this way.

What our parents do, and how they handle the psychology of it has more to do with how comfortable/uncomfortable you are with your own klismaphelia than whether or not you ARE ACTUALLY a klismo.

IMO there is no easy or clear way to determine what actions in youth will affect ultimate development. Mom was merely doing what she thought best based on advice, experience and availability.

Of the various "things" I was subjected to, only enemas imprinted. Just one of the those more-or-less random life things that contribute to who are.

I also was exposed to:

spankings - not a spanko (and I did not become a Top until much later in life.)

Rectal temperatures -- no medical scene fetish.

Catholic school -- see my avatar.

Yes, I did get erections when an enema was upcoming. Yes, mom noticed and ignored it -- I was sexually immature after all and also ignorant of sexual differences and function. Heck, I ignored it, erroneously concluding that the erection was validation that I needed to be given an enema.

So what explains the younger generation of enema lovers who never got an enema from Mom/Aunt/Grandma?

My sub never got enemas but boy does he love them. It is part what happens to a person and part what trips your trigger.

I've always said, to my whining sister because her life is so bad because of things our parents did to her growing up, you are in charge of what your life is. You decide what or not you do. People have decided they like things put up their ass. Enjoy it! Don't blame Mom/Aunt/Grandma because they were doing what they were told or felt was in the beat interest of their children. Using the information that was available at that time. Hind sight can be clearer at times.

@Allie80, your recent comments regarding the subject Did mom know the psychological impact of giving you enemas? is so disconcerting and sad because living your life guilt ridden is not a good life. None of us really know where our fetishes and desires come from. They could be passed on to us by our forebears or maybe they are just inborn at the moment of conception or birth. There are so many so-called experts who tell us this or that and we accept it as absolute truth when they don’t know for sure themselves and they could well have doubts also but they have to be the “expert” for whatever reason.

Be happy with who you are. I love the term, “be happy in your own skin”. It’s the only one you have for the present. One day we will all know the truth but not while in this “skin”.

Hey Easy ? Although it does seem weird and horrifying to me that this thing came from what my mom did, it hasn’t ruined my life or turned me into an emotional mess or anything. I think that understanding the origin of enema thing for me is something fairly new for me upon coming to Zity. I really do think this subject is very interesting because i feel like I can really relate to it. It is interesting how we are all different and how we are all effected differently by the experiences we have had.

So what explains the younger generation of enema lovers who never got an enema from Mom/Aunt/Grandma? Don't blame Mom/Aunt/Grandma because they were doing what they were told or felt was in the beat interest of their children. Using the information that was available at that time. Hind sight can be clearer at times.

I don't blame mom for anything. She was doing what she thought was right at the time just like Allies mom. It happened and I have long since come to terms what that means. I have had the best times I've ever had in the last decade after finding the site and learning there are people of both sexes just like me. I don't regret a thing either. I've always said that I believe there is an anal development phase and studies have borne this out that getting stimulated by enemas, thermometers, suppositories, the girl next door or 4 monkeys on mopeds can lead to becoming a klismo. Other people discover it later like my late partner Petal who had her first enema in her forties and loved a hose. a finger, a toy or anything else in her ass. Did mom have anything to do with that, of course not. Some people like the feeling, others do not. I do know in some, not all cases that getting enemas as a child resulted in that kink that let's us hang on. (Hummed to Jimmy Buffet!)

So what explains the younger generation of enema lovers who never got an enema from Mom/Aunt/Grandma?

I can only answer for myself as one who was not introduced to the world of enemas (at least to my memory) until I was over 50 yrs old. I'm not sure I qualify as "younger generation" anymore, however I believe that one's first enema experience and memory carries with it all sorts of associations - in my case positive and sensual and exposing some sort of anal sensitivity predisposition or maybe it was just that need to connect on such a sensual, intimate level for me. Who knows? Butt, like many here on Zity, I clearly have no regrets. 😃

I believe that parents were aware of likely fetishes for their children. I do not think they did it on purpose, but only because they were medically recommended. In my case I have had many girl enemas, but in fact I needed. Different for my sister who was punctual every day, often after eating. Very difficult to establish!

I find this thread so interesting because there are several different opinions and in spite of different arguments depending on which side you are on there doesn't seem to be much movement either way. Who is right? Beats me but both are entitled to their opinions....

There could be some middle ground: some developed a love for enemas by getting them as kids, som didn’t; some are just anally erotic whether they got them as kids or not.

still seeing monkeys on mopeds....