Foley catheter fetish

An elderly lady friend of mine had a spastic bladder with constant UTI's. They did a bladder stimulator on her (much like a cardiac stimulator). She says it's working. They insert the stimulator body into the hip and attach it to the bladder. Might help?

I love being cathed, especially when I have a play doctor or nurse to do it. I remember the first time, I had it done was with a Domme Doc that I was visiting. He had me on an exam table with my feet up in the stirrups and had just finished "prepping" me by shaving my cock, balls and ass. He lay the cath prep tray on my belly and lubed the first 6" of the cath and started sliding it gently in my peehole, fucking it in and out as he worked it deeper and deeper, adding more lube as he went until the cath was deep in my bladder, then he inflated the balloon and hooked up the bag. I spent the rest of the weekend hooked up that way.

I would love to have one in my all the time. The only time I would remove it would be to have sex or change it for a new one. When I have use one, I use a 30 FR with a 30 balloon which I put about just enough solution in to hold it in place.

First and foremost, I am an enema lover. Second up is catheters. My favorite is a Silastic 18fr. 5cc filled to 10cc. I use this with a belly bag during the day and a drainage bag at night. The longest I have gone being cathed was 7 weeks. I never changed it. No problems, EXCEPT My bladder was very small and I literally had to wear diapers for a week or so afterward. The solution? Put a catheter back in and leave it plugged until I was screaming to let it go. This took a good two months. Scared me to death! I thought I would be incontinent and I DID NOT want to be. Since then I only leave it in for a week to ten days and then don’t cath for a few months. Just writing this makes me want to go and do a two week cath. We’ll see......

I use a foley usually while taking enemas so i can hold enema longer and having to pee is a non issue. I also give myself a bladder irrigation using boiled distilled water and haven’t had a issue as of yet ?

Hey notbob, " I thought I would be incontinent and I DID NOT want to be." SO, if you would be incontinent, the second best thing that I can tell is using the foley catheter with a plug on the end. I don't know why more people who have prostate issues like myself don't get this as an option from their doctors. It seems to me that once you would get used to the catheter, it would be better than having to take meds, and dealing with not being able to go when you need to...

Just started using a rusch belly bag to drain my foley catheter. It is great to be free of the leg bag. I can fill it up to 1 litre capacity. Belt holds bag securly around my waist.

I’d like to jump in on this discussion here if I might. I use a 30FR Foley which is the largest diameter I’ve been able to find. I’d love to go bigger to 32 or 34 but have not been able to find that. I’m not sure they even make those.

I usually keep mine in for 6-12 hours at a time. One of these fine days I’m gonna try and keep it in overnight to see how that goes.

From my own experience, I have never, never, never experienced any pain or discomfort upon inserting it. In fact, it feels great! Sometimes it does hurt just a bit to pull it out again but I have found if I just go slow it’s O.K.

I am plagued with an enlarged prostate (benign) and have discovered that this really helps me lot. After I do a session, I find it much easier to urinate for the next week or two.

I have also tried intermittent catheters. I have been able to find 32 FR, 38 FR and 40FR on those. Trouble is, I have to tape ‘em to keep ‘em in. On those big ones, I usually don’t keep ‘em in for more than about 6 – 8 hours at the most.

HAPPY CATHING ! Life's too short not to cath !

I have 18F and 20F.

And some nice sounds. Really like them.

Also a vibrating urethra bullet.

I have managed a few times to keep it in a whole weekend. Like the fact that I know what’s going on while shopping. I disconnect the collection bag then.

But at home I have a bad strapped to my leg or a bag that hangs beside me. These ones are a lot bigger.

Also like the bladder flushes. Getting filled and have to hold it until the other lets you free.

I have been discovering that this may be a fetish of mine. I ordered some online in every size and I've been working my way up to the 24fr one. I currently use an 18fr cath that I either drain into a diaper or a leg bag. I have only been able to keep it in for a few hours before I get bladder spasms. If anyone has advice as to how to wear one longer, I'd love to hear it.

Like Russell, I just discovered this potential fetish... Put my first ever Foley in earlier today. Such a strange yet wonderful feeling. Of course being me, I was still in my chastity cage.

After a few hours I slipped it out to be sure I don't overdue my first time. I'll be repeating.

Oh yes, since I'm just starting I'm using 14fr. Not thinking about stretching just yet.

I have reread this discussion, let me tell my story.

I think the uro that worked on me did not give me adequate warning about side effects

I did have TURP. When I tried sex I did not have an ejaculation (retrograde ejac.) but then as now I am able to orgasm but no juice ( I was dx as incompetent bladder) have been on depression meds (SSRI) which prevent me from gaining an erection so....

I have been self cathing for about 10 years. I do get utis but my doc gives me backup of cipro as uti almost always starts in Friday night after his office closes. If I get right on it The symptoms of uti disappears over the weekend if I wait to tues to treat and it always takes a week or so

I have been on big time arthritis med for 3 years. As they supress the immune System, it has made the uti s much worse. As my rheumatoid labs are good and my pain in the wrists is osteo, I am now not on RA tx. So I feel much better although I lost over 30 lbs during it all which I could afford, but that is not the right way to diet

Here’s my experience. I self cath with a 14fr intermittent, I acquired 22fr with 30 cc ballon for use as a rectal tube. The flow in is ok but I can lose the tube on bowel movement with the 30 cc balloon inflated. I am now shopping for a proper inflatable.

If you want more info pm me.

Btw I can not plug my cath as I the plugs don’t work

Sometimes putting lubricant on the distal (far) end of a catheter before insertion leads to a pretty ouchie insertion, because most of the lube remains at the entrance to one's urethra and the catheter gets pretty much scraped clean, especially as the catheter gets in five or six inches.

There are lubricants that come pre-filled in syringes, like Cathejell, but this only seems to be available with a local anesthetic included. IMO, using an anesthetic for catheter insertion is a VERY bad idea - pain is the body's red flag - STOP!!

Some commercial Foley catheter insertion kit, like the Bard Uro-Prep, come with the lube pre-filled into a disposable syringe. The instructions say to squeeze the lube into the prep tray, then dip the catheter tip into the lube.

But, an earlier post in this thread hinted that the syringe could be used to inject the sterile lube directly into the recipient's urethra, thus lubricating the passage fully.

Does anyone know if this is actually accepted practice or not? AFAIK, Bard is silent on the issue.

Some commercial Foley catheter insertion kit, like the Bard Uro-Prep, come with the lube pre-filled into a disposable syringe. The instructions say to squeeze the lube into the prep tray, then dip the catheter tip into the lube.

But, an earlier post in this thread hinted that the syringe could be used to inject the sterile lube directly into the recipient's urethra, thus lubricating the passage fully.

Does anyone know if this is actually accepted practice or not? AFAIK, Bard is silent on the issue.

Okay, interesting. i put foleys in as a nurse and have never used the syringe of lube with the foley directly in the urethra. Honestly? It's never occurred to me, we always squirt it in the foley tray and dip the tip of the foley. On the other hand, i always ask the patient if they want anesthetic, it comes in a 10mL syringe, lidocaine gel, that we inject directly into the urethra. Very few wait long enough for the gel to numb the urethra, there's always a concern about CAUTI, which is probably why no one ever injects the lube into the urethra. About 25% of the guys i put foley's into want lidocaine, the other's don't seem to care.

i brought a foley home and put it in myself so i could see how it felt, i can see why some guys want lidocaine, but i don't find it really painful.

For me, it's not something i would do on myself for the same reason i have mentioned in other places, as a bottom, i am wired wanting to be penetrated, not doing the penetration, even on myself. i just always connect the penetration with the penetrator, and i am not a penetrator.

But i have several foley fantasies and occasionally run into a Top into it.

@tallslenderguy

The thought of injecting the lube never occurred to me either, but I did wonder why some Foley insertion kits had the lube in a syringe, rather than a packette. It made little sense before reading the prior post.

I can but wonder if the lube injection was the original intent, but it was changed over time.

It would be interesting to compare the nozzle on a Cathejell applicator to the tip on the lube syringe.

I actually never engaged in Cath-play prior to discovering this site. I absolutely love them while taking an enema. I use a 18fr 30cc and have zero intention of going any larger.

In the section "Inserting a straight catheter in a male patient," the text Implementing Urologic Procedures (1982) states "If your kit contains a prefilled syringe of lubricating jelly, rather than a packet, inject all 10ml jelly into the meatus. Then, remove the syringe and gently squeeze the area around the meatus to prevent the lubricant from oozing out."

"""In the section "Inserting a straight catheter in a male patient," the text Implementing Urologic Procedures (1982) states "If your kit contains a prefilled syringe of lubricating jelly, rather than a packet, inject all 10ml jelly into the meatus. Then, remove the syringe and gently squeeze the area around the meatus to prevent the lubricant from oozing out." ""

Well if this is the case there are a lot of videos that do not do this, and a lot of medical instructional videos that need some real updating. Having injected directly even a small amount of lube fairly deep into the urethra, I can assure that this makes a world of difference. I can't understand why a pre-fill small syringe does not accompany every catheter, or why you can't easily find these in bulk.

The answer is quite simple: There is more than one way to do just about everything. Some methods are better than others.

Practitioners all have their preferences.

It seems to be largely unknown, but the injection of 5 to 10 ml of sterile water based lube has been written up in several nursing publications, such as:

https://www.suna.org/sites/default/files/download/maleCatheterization.pdf

and

https://www.vnhcsb.org/media/data/papers/pdf/203_11.15.3.pdf

Who knew ???

This really makes me wonder why the nurses who have put several into me over the years have never done this. I expect that injecting lube would really reduce the ouchies as the catheter goes in deeper.

I've been very hesitant to try injecting lube with anesthetic because pain is a warning, but this is something that certainly seems to be worth try at the next opportunity.

Well, I finally got to try inserting a Foley catheter using an injection of water based, sterile lubricating jel, not containing an anesthetic. It was a bit hard to find and buy a Foley insertion kit with the jel in a syringe, rather than the usual packette, but I was eventually able to purchase one on-line at a realistic price.

The catheter I got is a single use, all silicone, size Fr 16, with a pre-connected sterile bag. I waited until my bladder was pretty full and I had an urge to pee, as would be the case for catheterization. (If your bladder isn't full, you can't really tell when the catheter has been inserted far enough. You need to see the pee flowing to verify the catheter is in far enough.)

I prepared as usual, putting on sterile gloves, cleaning the meatus with Betadine, and prepared the catheter and pee bag and connected the 10ml inflation syringe. So far all was as usual. I then took the syringe of sterile lubricating jel, removed the cap, and squeezed a bit of it and inserted the tip into my urethra. Then started injecting the lube. It went in easily and I could feel it going up my urethra and past my prostate. The feeling was a bit wierd, but not uncomfortable.

When the syringe was empty, I removed it and inserted the catheter tip. A bit of lube has oozed out but not much. The catheter slid in very easily, much more easily than a catheter that has just been dipped in lube. I advanced the catheter slowly and it went fully in without any of the usual "ouchies". The pee began to flow and I then advanced it an inch further and inflated the retention balloon, and attached the catheter to my leg.

5 minutes later, I could not feel the catheter at all. Had I not known there was one in me, I honestly could not have told you whether I was cathed or not.

It was really, really comfortable and I had a great night's sleep, without having to get up to pee even once.

The catheter stayed in about a day and this evening I sat on the toilet, deflated the Foley balloon, and slowly peed out the catheter. There was no residual "ouchies" when I first peed after the cather removal.

All in, the injection of sterile lube, without an anesthetic, makes cathing a lot of fun, almost completely without "ouchies".

Who knew ???

This really makes me wonder why the nurses who have put several into me over the years have never done this. I expect that injecting lube would really reduce the ouchies as the catheter goes in deeper.

As Susie notes, "there is more than one way to do just about everything." i've not seen any study evidence supporting one method over another, these are just procedural manuals. Most nurses are probably going to be more concerned about catheter associated urinary tract infection (CAUTI), especially in a hospital setting where community acquired infections are a greater risk. Simply put, the more you are putting in, the greater the risk for infection, so it's a balancing act.

There is evidence that using lubricant can reduce the risk of infection because it reduces risk of irritating or abrading the lining of the urethra. Depending on the lube though (i.e., if it has glycerin), it can be a medium for bacterial growth as it breaks down even though it is initially sterile. Most of the bacteria are at the opening, which is why cleaning is so important. Every time you introduce something more into the urethra, you risk introducing bacteria. So, introducing just a lube coated cath vs introducing a syringe, then a cath reduces the risk of introducing pathogens.

i brought a cath home and put it in myself so i could experience what my patients do... but that is never 100%, because everyone experiences things individually. I.e., we cannot completely relate or apply our experience to another. i have patients who have no issue with having a cath put in and express no discomfort with just a lubed tip (i know what i am doing and believe a lubed tip is adequate to prevent urethral irritation). Other patients experience 'pain' at the mention of a catheter. i explain the procedure and ask my patients what they want, but my primary concern is protecting them from CAUTI.

My late wife was a R.N, and once told me that if someone was shall we say unlikeable they were treated differently then someone they liked , so some were lubed and some were not .

My wife had a cystogram and the technician lubed the catheter. I asked if they used lidocaine and she said only for men - as it tends to burn as it passes thorough the prostate. Agree that there is more than one way to skin a cat!!!

In looking on the web, I found that some makers of Silicone Foley Catheter kits (Kendall/Dover) have opted to make their lubricant applicators explicitly designed for urethral insertion. Look at the little bellows lube applicator in this pic, just above the water inflation syringe:

https://img.techpowerup.org/200525/dover-tray.jpg

That applicator looks much easier to use to inject lubricant into someone's urethra than the typical hypodermic syringe with a Luer tip, whose function is pretty ambiguous. The primary function of that applicator is urethral injection, IMO.

Now if only nurses will use them!

Just curious as I have never placed a urinary catheter for enjoyment due to UTI risk. For anyone who's actually felt lubricant injected down their male urethra, can you actually feel it being injected past the very tip where the syringe enters you? How far down your penis do you feel it, and is it a cool as opposed to a stinging or other sensation? Thanks,

Eric

@ericmacson

Yes, once can absolutely feel the lubricant going into one's urethra. I don't recollect it feeling cool, but I certainly could feel the lubricant spreading my urethra and I could certainly feel it at my prostate and opening up my sphincter. That part tingled a bit, but didn't hurt. IMO, it's important to inject the full 10ml dose, because the innermost area is where the lube is most needed to ease passage of the catheter. You want the entire passage interior nice and slick everywhere. Any excess will go into your bladder and dissolve in the pee.

When the injection was complete and I removed the syringe, a bit of lube, perhaps 1/2 ml, oozed out at the tip. I prmptly inserted the catheter tip into my passage through this blob.

I am quite concerned about UTIs, but am very, very careful. There are many good, explicit videos on YouTube about insertion. Not all are accurate, but watch several and you'll soon learn.

Two more things:

I ALWAYS use a new, sealed Foley catheter kit and NEVER reuse anything or anything that is supposed to be sterile that has touched anything non-sterile, even for an instant. If it doubt... DON'T use it. A brand new, complete setup is $15 - $20, cheap compared to a UTI or worse.

Putting on sterile gloves can be tricky. I always wipe my gloved hands completely with Betadine after gloving up, just in case they didn't go on right.

That applicator looks much easier to use to inject lubricant into someone's urethra than the typical hypodermic syringe with a Luer tip, whose function is pretty ambiguous. The primary function of that applicator is urethral injection, IMO.

Now if only nurses will use them!

Not to rain on your parade, but i have encountered the "bellows" type lube container in cath kits before, and i just squirt it in the sterile tray to apply to the cath. True sterile procedure is very exacting. i won't go into the details of breaking sterile field, but getting to the point of injecting lube, you will only have one hand for the injector, the other is holding the penis and is no longer sterile. Given the design, i think it would be virtually impossible to inject with the bellows container using sterile technique. Imaging the V at the top with two fingers and the thumb to depress the lube into the urethra, it's going to be virtually impossible keeping those V fingers sterile on your Dominant hand. A syringe is better because it puts distance between your sterile hand and the penis. If i'm injecting lube, it's going to be lidocaine and i'm going to use this:

http://www.amphastar.com/assets/uro-jet-sales-sheet-8-3-17-01-007-08.pdf

I would not use Lidocaine jel for the same reason as I won't have a colonoscopy with sedation-

Pain is a warning. STOP.

Here's how I injected lube into my urethra. I used a syringe that was 1.0 ML. As most health care people may know this is extremely small. It is actually small enough to slide inside my urethra. It was maybe half filled. SO, I inserted it all the way up to the flange on the syringe where your fingers grip the end. This put the lube about 3 1/2 inches down my urethra. When I pushed in the plunger I did not feel very much of anything.. Then I used a fairly large FR20 catheter, that I had also added some lube to. I think the large size catheter, and ensuring the lube was deep inside, allowed the catheter to push the lube in further as I slowly advanced it. This made insertion very comfortable. A smaller catheter may push past the lube, ending in the same dry insertion that has been being done for years. The problem I see with this is keeping everything clean. Almost impossible to fill the syringe without touching it. I wish I could find a device like this small syringe that would inject the lube deep in the urethra, in a guarantied sterile way.

By the way, I never wear gloves and never keep a sterile hand. I simply never touch the catheter or anything going into my urethra. I use the catheter wrapper to hold it, as I insert it. Slowly removing more of the wrapper as I advance it inside. Its no wonder UTI's are so common, after seeing all the videos online. These so call experts, touch all kinds of things but they have gloves on....