Epsom salts and bisacodyl laxative, too much?

Hi guys. Looking to try a strong/fast acting laxative for diaper fun. I was thinking 30mg of bisacodyl in tablet form, followed by a 4 tablespoon Epsom salt drink 3 hours later.

I think this would produce the desired effect. Any suggestions or words of advice? I'd use the bisacodyl on it's own, but forum posts suggest that takes 5-6 hours and I need it to be quicker. Here in the UK we don't really have many laxative options as our government likes to mother us and give us few choices.

Many thanks.

For fast try 20-30 mg of bisacodyl suspended in 30-50 mL of water and injected rectally. Another option would be 30mL glycerin and 30mL water, again rectally. Both should work within one hour, both should be pretty strong.

I'm not a diaper type so I don't know how well they contain liquid movements, but I'd think the Epsom salts might be a bit messy. You'd also have a slight risk of excessive magnesium absorption, especially since that seems to be between 2 and 3 times the recommended U.S. dose. If you really want to go that route I'd look for PEG 3550 (Mirilax) because it's pretty inert and also doesn't have much of a flavor.

Six Dulcolax 5mg tablets (30mg) will give a pretty strong action on its own. The epsom salts would just make it watery - that dose of Dulcolax will make you quite loose. When Dulcolax begins to work there's no denying it.

The other option is castor oil, about 3 ounces. That's unpredictable but usually works in 2-4 hours, but beware, it sometimes feels like gas but you'll get a messy surprise. Diapers are mandatory and I've had it work in about 45 minutes once, with no warning. It tastes lousy, so I mix it well with cold juice or Clamato, then wipe off my mouth quickly because the oily sensation isn't pleasant. Beware that the next day it may still surprise you.

Hi both

Thanks moliere but I'm not looking for an enema this time, I've been taking those for 20 years and fancied something different.

I'm not worried about the magnesium as I don't ever take anything like this and it seems unlikely I'd be in trouble with one strong dose.

I'd happily try the bisacodyl on it's own but the time it takes seems to be unpredictable and slow. I've read anything between 4-7 hours. Castor oil I've tried before with almost zero effect apart from a lot of gas and gurgling so that doesn't seem to work for me.

I could also try prune juice, possibly mix 2-3 table spoons of epsom salts with a cup or two of prune juice, would that be less severe and faster?

I recently took 1/4 cup of epsom salts in 16 oz of water, followed by another 16 oz of water. 30 min later I inserted 2 ducolax supps. The result was QUITE effective!

Was that safe littleamy and would you repeat the experience? 1/4 a cup according to google is around 56 grams and that's a lot more than the dose I've seen listed around.

Magnesium citrate is supposed to be fast and oral. Label says 45 minutes to an hour and a half. I say "supposed" because the time I used it to "get everything taken care of before bed" it took 8 hours before even starting. Fortunately I took it early enough that it stopped before I had to go to work, and fortunately it woke me up rather than just working. Since then I've stuck with rectal application if it's more than 1-2 Mirilax doses- but my bowels are very cantankerous and rarely behave the way they're supposed to.

If you go the magnesium citrate route again I'm not sure if things will get messy or not.

Why don't you just go to the chemist's and ask for something fast and thorough "because you're constipated and want it taken care of fast" or some variant thereof?

Because I already have Epsom salts from my enema's 😃

Most accounts I read suggest a strong dose of epsom salts will get working within the hour.

Well, give it a try then. Maybe take 20mg bisacodyl (or the full 30 if you really want things to happen, but remember label dose is only 10), wait 15 minutes or so (for it to enter the intestine), then take half of the Epsom salts mixture to hopefully speed it on its way to the large intestine, where it starts working. If things don't heat up in a hour or so take the second dose of Epsom salts. That way you won't make things more liquid than you have to and you also reduce your intake of magnesium. In most cases it doesn't seem to be absorbed much, but if it does it can be bad.

Fair advice, and makes sense. Many thanks :-)

I have had diaper fun using this combo before and it does work, for me it was fast and predicable. I think the key is to do it on a empty stomach. Both times I have done this, I took 2 bisacodyl tabs at 6am with lots of fluids and then 2 more bisacodyl tabs at 8am drank a quart of gatorade. Then put 1 tablespoon epsom salts in the quart bottle and filled partly with warm water and mixed/shook it until all the salt is dissolved then filled all the way with cold water. Make sure you have your diaper on and chugged it down the epsom salts. I think I drank it around 9am and I wasn't able to hold it by 10. The comfortdry 24/7 almost held it. If you try this I would like to read how it works out.

Hi 1ofmany

Sounds good. I think I'll try that only with 25ml of bisacodyl.

Out of interest were there are after effects from this or residual irritation or is it a case of once it's over, it's over?

For the most part it was over when it is over but don't trust a fart unless you are diapered. I try and drink some water the whole time to try and flush out the salt. By the time I went to bed it was done.

Have fun!

I have to confess, I have wimped out slightly.

I decided as I'd never taking Bisacodyl orally let alone epsom salts, that I would simply start small and be safe, just in case I have a unexpected reaction or anything to the medicine.

So an hour ago I took 20mg (4 tablets) of bisacodyl and I'm just going to relax now and see what happens.

Diaper is on standby for when I feel things getting interesting.

Once the effects are over I'll flush everything out with some large enemas

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Edit: 3 hours and nothing yet, I'm getting excited now. This would be fun/scary in public.

Edit #2: 5 hours, rumbling but nothing more. Actually getting a bit bored now, must start earlier next time.

Edit #3: Got bored at 6 hours, so decided to give a tablespoon of epsom salt in some water a go, 40 mins later not much going on at the moment, odd rumble.

Edit #4: Another hour passed with little activity, so I drunk a second far more concentrated glass of epsom salts. Just another table spoon, but a small amount of water. This seems to get things moving, but to be honest it was all such an anticlimax. I was expecting to be doubled over trying to hold it back, but it was easy. In the end truthfully I got bored and simply took my diapers off and went to the toilet.

Lot's of liquid and waste came out with little drama and then stopped. I'm almost left wondering what to do now. Think I'll follow up with some enema's to ensure it's all clear.

The problem with the bisacodyl laxative is the coating on the pills. It is meant to keep the actual drug from being released too soon - it would be a strong irritant to the stomach lining, so it is meant to dissolve so slowly that it finally delivers the "payload" when it reaches the small intestine, hence the multiple hour wait. Everyone is different; on an empty stomach, with other laxatives, it is quite possible that the tablets won't even dissolve before they are passed. Suppositories are quite reliable, but tend to work in the lowest sections of the bowel, and don't give the waves of peristalsis throughout the system. When a high dose is released in the small intestine and starts to spread and be absorbed, I have found that there is no stopping it. Cramps become more and more insistent, and I find myself involuntarily pushing while clenching with everything I've got. I lose the battle every time.

Many recipes for colonoscopy prep include the tablets, followed by another oral laxative at a certain interval. Follow those instructions, and you should be good to go, so to speak.

Flow-er-boy is quite right - Dulcolax tablets have "enteric coating" meaning they need the alkaline medium in the intestine to dissolve. And occasionally a tablet will not dissolve - I've seen one in the diaper. What a waste. I sometimes take a few Dulcolax tablets about two hours before bedtime, then at bedtime,a dose of milk of magnesia, an alkaline agent that will ensure complete exposure to the Dulcolax active ingredient, but by then in the intestine. Results guaranteed and amazing, best of both worlds.

Jimbobofmoo, 1/4 cup is listed as the "purgative" dose, and I believe it is safe as long as you don't have any salt-related health issues like high blood pressure. I wouldn't combine ORAL bisacodyl with epsom salts, but the supps are absorbed through the bowel wall while the epsom salts are driving through the stomach and small intestine. The result was certainly effective!

I did a "diaper challenge" once which was fairly simple and fun. Insert 2 bisacodyle suppositories, diaper and go out grocery shopping. See if u can hold it without losing it in the store as this could be humiliating. On a personal note, when I use suppositories I insert them w/ a Sephure applicator. This gets them up higher which I've found means they take a little longer to work, about an hr as opposed to 30 to 40 mn, but I think they're more productive this way.

I was able to hold for about an hr and 10 mn which got me through the store and into the parking lot. I had to fight some intense cramps while in the store and twice I broke into a sweat and couldn't move, but I held on.

When I got to the car, I picked up a case of water and that was that.

Always looking for ways to enhance my diaper fun. I was reading on another forum where someone was mixing milk of magnesia with metamucil and it would make a "glorious load" I am thinking it may make it less watery. And thinking of adding the Dulcolax tablets taken a couple hours before this mixture to speed up the process. Thoughts?

1ofmany, that would work fine, but don't take the Dulcolax too close to the MoM. Dulcolax will irritate the stomach, possibly making you sick when taken with antacid. Dulcolax has enteric coating designed to dissolve once it reaches the alkaline intestine. Two hours before the MoM should be OK.

I’ve got a good recipe for you.

Wait until you feel the need to poop, then take 1 Imodium tablet. Hold your poop for approximately 24-48 hours, then get a small bottle, approximately 12 Oz, put 8 Oz of sports drink (not your favorite, maybe 3rd favorite flavor) in it, add 2 Tbsp Epsom salt and 4 Tbsp of sugar. Drink that within one go, then 2 hours later diaper up. It will work in 3-4 hours and when it hits you’ll be completely unable to hold it back.

I’ve got a good recipe for you.

get a small bottle, approximately 12 Oz, put 8 Oz of sports drink (not your favorite, maybe 3rd favorite flavor) in it, add 2 Tbsp Epsom salt and 4 Tbsp of sugar.

Hi, next week i maybe gonna try this one with the Epsom Salt

@SamBradC1988

It are TABLE spoons correct?

And what is the purpose of the extra Sugar? (just to make it tastier/better?)

I’ve got a good recipe for you.

get a small bottle, approximately 12 Oz, put 8 Oz of sports drink (not your favorite, maybe 3rd favorite flavor) in it, add 2 Tbsp Epsom salt and 4 Tbsp of sugar.

@SamBradC1988

It are TABLE spoons correct?

And what is the purpose of the extra Sugar? (just to make it tastier/better?)

@saskia-v

Yes to both.

Remember the difference:

- In moving the bowels by taking a bisacodyl laxative this one may be sometimes unpleasent, but in no case dangerous.

- In moving the bowels by taking Epsom salt you will have to prepare an isotonic solution of 3,3 %. In the other case there will exist the risk of a kidney failure. So pay attention !

The bisacodyl on its own need to kick in before you add milk of magnesia or epsom salt, otherwise it‘s wasted.

Take the bisacodyl pills, wait for first effect (cramps and some kind of unpleasant feeling in your tunmy) and apply the epsom salt directly after this.

Bisacodyl is an enteric-coated tablet, which means it only dissolves in an alkaline environment. Sometimes that coating just doesn’t break down the way you’d expect, depending on conditions.

If you’re combining with an osmotic laxative, an uncoated stimulant like sodium picosulfate (the one used in some colonoscopy prep formulas) can work more reliably.

Why not just go to Wegmans and buy a 10 oz bottle of magnesium citrate.......

when you're ready to get cleaned out....... drink iced tea and or water with a magnesium citrate......... drink plenty of water with it or liquids............

takes about 20 minutes................. depending on what you ate the night before.............

It will clean you out slicker than a whistle............ the Magnesium Citrate runs between $2 and $3 a bottle

you might want to try it

When you feel the urge........... you better be sitting on the toilet............

Bisacodyl is an enteric-coated tablet, which means it only dissolves in an alkaline environment. Sometimes that coating just doesn’t break down the way you’d expect, depending on conditions.

If you’re combining with an osmotic laxative, an uncoated stimulant like sodium picosulfate (the one used in some colonoscopy prep formulas) can work more reliably.

That‘s the reason waiting for the effect of bisacodyl.

Sodium picosulfate has almost no effect on me, i‘m able to drink a whole bottle (15 ml) with little effects.