I just discovered this thread today. One reason I'm very glad I'm a switch is because, totally by accident, I'm allowed to see both sides of the same coin. And both are very satisfying and moral and ethical if done right. I don't enjoy any but the mildest of spankings or moderate bondage/immobilization or any serious kind of pain as a sub, but do thoroughly enjoy being extremely submissive and allowing my partner to enjoy being extremely dominant to me, as well as the reverse scenario. And that includes her often trying to push my limits with things like spankings, size or length or retention of anal toys, speed, solution, size, retention or repetition of enemas, length or severity of bondage, and amount of time of enclosure or chores done or temperature wearing rubber. It also includes her very nicely done psychological domination of me including timing and severity of tone of voice and multiple "threats" of what she tells me is coming next. She thoroughly enjoys the reverse when she desires and assumes submission to me. While it's not strictly an issue of pain with us, I have no doubt there are many like Nikki's heckler (better word but I can't think of it!) in her OP who would give me or my partner a similar berating for enjoying doing what we enjoyably, lovingly and willingly do with each other. Except in a place like this, I don't discuss or even reveal our kinks to almost anyone. We just enjoy them for what they bring to our lives and relationship. I even have one other kink that I've mentioned here before, apparently quite unusual in prevalance, for a very common article of clothing, that I'd consider my mildest kink. It also gets incorporated into our play above and often our daily lives, but I don't even let that one out except here and to some close friends. I probably wouldn't be berated for it, but it's certainly in a "WTF? Man, I've never heard of that one" category.
I'm far from perfect, but what I am is a very caring doctor, an extremely loving father, and other than my very private sex life, about as vanilla as they come. I'm 63 and probably somewhere in the last 10 years finally made peace with my sexual interests and now just enjoy them quietly as a deeply satisfying part of my sex life. I'm single and profoundly hoping I can find another woman to love and play with for the rest of my life. Nikki, very well written posts and thank you for opening this up for discussion. No complaints here - my partner and I might even enjoy playing sub with you sometime.