Trouble deciding on a double balloon enema nozzle

After a horrible experience with the first kind I got I am very hesitant on buying another. From reading many threads on here latex seems to be more comfortable than silicone and less prone to breaking. It also seems either 250cc or 500cc for the inner balloon will work though I'm not sure which one would work best for me. I'm looking for a simple, comfortable latex nozzle that won't make me bleed inside after just one pump and at the same time can hold the liquid in as I fully relax even if I am standing.

Currently I found a few from a couple places and don't know what the main pros and cons to them are. I'll list the ones out below though I'd be happy if anyone had opinions on the ones I link and/or ones they find has worked best. Remember, I'm trying to keep this simple as I don't go crazy with enemas currently though if I can find a nozzle to help me easily hold it all in (generally just plain water enemas) I may adventure out from there.

1: http://www.medtech3000.de/doppelballon-darmrohr-ruesch-nach-gaul-doppelballondarmrohr-p-8.html - Looks smooth and the distance between the balloon is small. It's also 250cc in both though I do not know if 250cc for the inside will be enough. It also asks for diameter of the tubing which I don't know which one to pick. Oh, and I already have working air pumps from my last nozzle, so do I need to buy their kit or can I use mine?

2: http://www.medtech3000.de/doppelballon-darmrohr-geblaese-darmkatheter-p-409.html - Looks like another possibility though this type of double balloon nozzle made me bleed (I flooded mine with surgilube just to go overboard and say it wasn't lack of lube) so am hesitant on this kind. I also don't know for sure if 250ml in each balloon means 250cc in each as not much comes up on Google.

3: https://www.kinkymedical.net/searchresults.php?searchtype=department&searchterm=Enema%20Supplies - Scroll down to find the latex 250/250ml nozzle. It looks like the ones I've read about on here to get though it is expensive and I don't know if it's 250cc. If it is 250cc in each then would it be enough to hold everything in?

Thank you in advance for anyone that responds to this thread. I'm hoping after some things get cleared up I'll possibly enjoy this piece of equipment again. Keep in mind I am willing to spend $150 on a nozzle but only if I get a for sure answer it will meet all of my expectations. I paid $100 for my last and it was a piece of garbage.

Information on what I own and have used on request. I didn't want to clutter this post up too much.

@ krone6..Firstly over & above all else there appears to be a more significant issue here...Namely the mention of internal rectal bleeding..If this is an ongoing issue 4 you obviously there is a health /medical problem which requires investigation ....I'd strongly urge you to seek professional opinion forthwith ...It may be as simple as internal polyps which are readily treatable or there could possibly be "other" reasons why this is happening....This Is definitely NOT NORMAL & I'd be most concerned !.

Provided this matter is settled satisfactorily prior to anything else one can then consider their options....And now moving forward,your comments relating to inflator bulbs ...The answer to this is self explanatory ..Yes,they can definitely be retained as accessories...the narrow tubular connecting spiggots being barbed accommodate nearly every type of inflatable balloon catheter.

Now it goes without saying that one cannot recommend what's absolutely the best to suit another individuals taste over another brand ---simply personal preference....As with anything volume levels differ from type to type...comfort levels vary from person to person....This has been covered elsewhere here at zity, I may add.. Generally the 250cc /250cc combination or 250cc /500cc double balloon rectal catheter actually provides a good seal & is not prone to leakage...basically because of their closely & correctly aligned balloons.

A little research suggests that the German manufactured Rusch (red latex) product is known for it's dependability, durability & reliability ... Providing a long service life if cared for correctly....Another important consideration here and as some may be aware, that over this products lifetime & due to it's elasticity characteristics these items can tolerate a degree of over inflation...From memory additional new cuffs can be purchased separately.

Am well aware of product suppliers such as www Fraudoktor dot com, Klystra, Medtech 3000,OHN (Optimal Health),Siliconenozzles..so forth & so on...Suggestion merely a case of opinion & other considerations may well suit requirements...Hope this helps & best of luck.

Thanks for the reply, though the bleeding only happened with that one device. I've never had a problem with things that were smooth. I've been to the rusch site after hearing they make a good item though their front end is confusing. I found the item I wanted though couldn't find a price or way to add it to my cart. I get the feeling I'll have to call to order anything from them.As far as the one that requested the tubing diameter how would I know which one to pick? I tried to measure the tube I have though I'm used to slipping the nozzle end into the other nozzle (double balloon) which seals it up. I figured it's be the same for that product.

Anyone else have opinions/reviews on the stuff I've linked?

Started out with #1. There is one inflator that blows up both balloons. When your internal pressure builds up, it pushes the air out of the inner balloon into the outer balloon which will cause you to leak.

I purchased two of the #2 off Ebay awhile back, they are definitely better.

Klystra has been backordered for the double balloon nozzles in a couple of sizes and recently I hear backordered for the silicone 4 quart bags for such a long time, I wonder if they will ever produce them again.

Good luck with this. Two latex ones failed on me pretty quickly. A large (750/500) silicone one lasted quite a while, but the seam at the base of the inner balloon started to leak recently. The inner balloon of the second latex one actually ruptured, but it was not a problem - actually was a rather interesting sensation. What was your "horrible experience" like? I did not find a comfort issue with the silicone one, it just takes a little work to get it fully seated before inflating it. Reply via personal message if you want talk any more about this. It really is an essential item to have in your collection once you get beyond the basic nozzles and tubes. Check out SiliconeNozzles.com if you haven't already. Very high quality stuff and reasonably priced. Bon Lavement!

A female US member and professionnal in sales of enema products advice me to choice latex and not silicone.

The choice number 2 is in latex and seem to be the best choice because its shape.

Thanks for the help everyone. When I get paid again I'll buy the second one and try it out. I'll assume 250ml is the same as 250cc in each balloon.

I have the second nozzle you list and have found it excellent. The seal it provides is as good as can be and it is a well made and durable product.

I previously used one of the 750 silicone ones and really could not get on with it. The inner balloon was just too large for me to enjoy the enema as I spent most of the time concentrating on the massive balloon in my butt. I also found it to e quite long so that the nozzle end was very far inside me and was quite uncomfortable.

The latex versions are excellet and feel much nicer. I would go with one of those if I were you.

That's my 2pence.

Klystra has been backordered for the double balloon nozzles in a couple of sizes and recently I hear backordered for the silicone 4 quart bags for such a long time, I wonder if they will ever produce them again.

I've recently tried contacting them by email and through their site about the status of the silicone nozzles and got no response. Website hasn't been updated in over a year and a half. Kristina A of Optimal Health also took them off her site and she gave only a 'when we can find a source for them' response when I contacted her about them.

With the lack of response from Klystra that doesn't bode well that they'll ever be produced again or at least anytime soon. One thing I can say is the last produced silicone nozzles were among the best in quality and construction. Mine is about 2yrs old and still like new with twice weekly usage. Guess I'll be treating it like gold from now on. 😃

Like others in this thread, I'm looking for a double ballon nozzle. I've looked on Amazon and could only find one made by clean stream which got terrible reviews. So bad, I can't even see giving it a chance. Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks

@trouble63 - don't waste your money on the cleanstream in my opinion. Injust found it way too large and unforgiving once inserted and inflated. On the other hand, if that's your thing...

@ trouble 63 - My thoughts on the subject are set out above ..Take a look at the medtech3000.de Site & go from there.

Or go to Ebay and get the double balloon latex ones from Germany. You will not be sorry.

I have a strong preference for the latex ones with 2- 250 balloons. Very comfortable and they last maybe 3 years. I found the silicone ones to be not very comfortable and I had 2 each of which lasted less than a year. Search for 264530 and enema and Rusch (the maker, a division of Teleflex) for the good latex ones. Careforde is listing it for $100 but most others are much higher. If you get one use only KY as oil will eat up the latex quickly.

The ones available on ebay with a single pump are OK but the balloons are connected. A serious cramp on your part will force some of the air from the inner balloon to the outer making the inner much less secure. If you then get up the added pressure of you being vertical can cause a sudden very messy problem. Unfortunately I know this for a fact so if you get that version care must be taken!

The least expensive but longest lasting inflatable tip is the inflatable butt plug type. As purchased these are not comfortable for most people because the "neck" expands too much when inflated. There is a solution, however. Just wrap 3/4" electrical tape around the neck at its narrowest point. Do it as tightly as you can and take 3-4 wraps. This will keep it fro expanding there and results is a good seal that is pretty comfortable.

The latex double balloon one with 2 inflators is still my favorite however.

They have doubles on ebay http://www.ebay.com/itm/Balloon-double-rectal-tube-enema-nozzle-two-pumps-/181594840482?pt=UK_Collectables_Scientific_MJ&hash=item2a47e55da2

Yes, the Ebay one looks fine.

Thanks so much everyone for your thoughtful insight. It sounds like the German latex version is best for me. I am still trying to figure out if it's best to get one where the internal and external balons are the same size or get one w the larger internal ballon

Get the one shown it's a good one. The size is determined by how much you blow it up. However you only want like 4 pumps on the internal one. I purchased two of them because I want one for a partner.

I have not as yet tried the double balloon nozzle, although I am giving it some serious consideration. I have always enjoyed a good tight fit . This forum has given me some good information. thanks, all, very much.

I am looking to buy my first double balloon nozzle and was wondering how the packaging looked for the double inflator nozzle from medware2000 on ebay as well as the one from klystra. I am at school and discreet shipping is a must.

I had a Clean Stream silicone nozzle with the 750cc inner and 250cc outer. I agree the inner balloon is too large to be comfortable and the gap between balloons is to great for a good seal on my anatomy. It was so long it had to be angled to keep from poking the colon at the bend.

Also, I couldn't get the inner to seal without putting 6-7 pumps into it and it felt as if it were going to split me apart. Anything less and the water ran out around the flutes.

It lasted 19 months before the inner balloon ripped away from the body of the tube at the bottom. No real way to repair that. I cut it off and sealed the end to make a single balloon nozzle and the old outer balloon is about the perfect size with 2-3 pumps. I've since added a solid external flange to keep it from working inside. Works better than the original design.

This has made me realize that I'd like to build my own if I could get the raw components. I'd first use to external balloons and mount the inner balloon blunt side up and the tapered side toward the external balloon. This gives a much better feel with the gentle ramp into the rectum once inflated. Second, I'd put the balloons no farther than 1/2" apart. The now tapered inner would now fill the rectum with back pull from the external.

Whatever nozzle feels best in your butt.

Botox,

You have described how the nozzle should be made. I had one that broke, and also had the balloons too far apart to get a good seal. I have also used the old outer balloon, but had never thought about putting a block behind it like you did. Thanks for the idea.

Dan

I just ordered the Rusch # 264030 - St. Bartholomew's Catheter 30F, 250cc, 16", double-balloon from Careforde Healthcare. $95.00 with free shipping. I had this one before and it lasted a long time. Also sealed well.

I just checked Careforde and they're asking $140 for it, now.

Http://www.ebay.com/itm/double-balloon-enema-rectal-tube-nozzle-two-pumps/182411867890

Looks like this is just what is needed to work properly and be comfortable. Why we can't find a supplier in the states is a good question.

I to am thinking of stepping up to the double balloon. Currently have an old single balloon that works well.Should I go with the latex or silicone?

I agree with the comments on the silicone nozzles. The inner balloon is to big to be comfortable and if you don't inflate it completely it leaks. I bought a latex double balloon and still experimenting with it. Its nice but not as good as my double balloon single pump one.