Genital Exams Given In Role Play Physicals

I am wondering, is it illegal for a play "doc" to touch/examine a male patient's penis and testicles during a play examination? Your thoughts?

I thought the idea of 'role play' was so that the 'patient' 'doctor' gets to do a full medical with no holds bar,

including the patient getting his 'gonads' fondled.

I am wondering, is it illegal for a play "doc" to touch/examine a male patient's penis and testicles during a play examination? Your thoughts?

Try an analogy: is it illegal for people having sex to touch a penis and testicles? If so, then Heaven help us all.

But seriously, a play exam is just another form of sexual play. A somewhat odd form to some people, but essentially nothing more than a form of sexual touching and exploration. Now there are many very controlling and dirty-minded people who would love nothing better than to regulate all forms of sexual contacts and prohibit most of them. Luckily all they can effectively do is rant and rave and show themselves to be utter fools.

So, really, the concept of illegality is not applicable to what you ask.

There may often be questions raised about the legality of a medically non accredited person performing actual medical procedures - that´s a big no-no in almost all countries of the world. No one wants incompetents performing dangerous procedures that involve giving injections, medications, performing surgery or diagnosing illnesses.

But rest assured: a play doc touching and pretending to examine someone´s penis/genitals is nothing more than a bit of play-acting foreplay. Among consenting partners, you can touch and pretend to examine each others genitals to your heart´s content.

Protoc99 asked:-

I am wondering, is it illegal for a play "doc" to touch/examine a male patient's penis and testicles during a play examination? Your thoughts?

I'm going with the two previous respondents and the one important thing I would add is that you there must be agreement between the party's and that touching must stop immediately if requested to do so. Anything otherwise is an assault. It's even more important that permissions and understandings exist between a playdoc and patient of different gender.

This is a great question. I suppose the patient in role pal is at very low risk of being charged with any sort of crime. It might make sense for the doctor to have some type of consent of the patient documented. Here is a suggested consent.

I,(patient's name), give my permission for (doctor's name) to examine me naked including my genitals and anal cavity.

I would think examiners should exercise care about inserting objects into the urethra, vagina or anus that could produce an injury.

As long as the patient is aware that you are a play doctor and no money is exchanged, no need to ever worry.

Unless a copay was charged for services I see no reason why either the patient or Dr could be charged with anything as long as they were both consenting adults

Should be just fine and perfectly legal for fully consenting adults. The exceptions being any sort of payment or going to a level further than agreed to. I suggest some sort of written agreement or some kind of trail ie: emails.

I'll only speak about the US.

If the players are uncompensated (no money or other valuables change hands), consensual sexual touch is completely legal. In some states, like NJ, any exchange of money or valuables makes sexual touch into prostitution. You could make an argument that a female play patient receiving a disposable speculum to take home after it's used on her would be prostitution.

Other states have different laws. The thing to remember is that unless one of you is law enforcement or a mandatory reporter, there's no sex police looking through your keyhole.

I'll only speak about the US.

You could make an argument that a female play patient receiving a disposable speculum to take home after it's used on her would be prostitution.

You'll have to run this by me again. Why would giving a disposable speculum be regarded as prostitution? If a woman provides a sexual partner a condom and he then takes it home (for whatever wacky reason) please don't tell me that could be considered prostitution either ... seriously ... ha ha ha.

Well I hope not. Their both adults.

You'll have to run this by me again. Why would giving a disposable speculum be regarded as prostitution? If a woman provides a sexual partner a condom and he then takes it home (for whatever wacky reason) please don't tell me that could be considered prostitution either ... seriously ... ha ha ha.

Maybe jds means she would be paying him with the speculum for his services, not the other way around! If so, it's the first time I've ever heard of speculums being proposed as a form of currency. I wonder what the exchange rate would be with pound sterling, US dollar and the euro? 😁

They would be difficult to carry in any quantity as cash. It is not as if you could fit about 20 of them in your pocket, is it?

Maybe this could work as a kind of 'black market' currency, or perhaps to coin a phrase, 'pink market'. I wonder how the haggling for trade would go ...

"Four speculums for these groceries? That's a bit expensive. Isn't three a fair price?".

"No, four. That's how much it is".

"I'll give you three speculums, and this one has my wife's vaginal secretions on it".

"Okay then. Deal".

Don't know. I though it was all part of it.

I am wondering, is it illegal for a play "doc" to touch/examine a male patient's penis and testicles during a play examination? Your thoughts?

My take on this is that providing both the play "doctor" and play "patient" are both of legal age and it's understood by both parties that the scenario is adult role play and no form of payment is offered, then how can it be anything that contravenes the law?

How is this any different than consenting adults engaging in any form of contact which involves the genitalia. Is consensual sexual activity between adults illegal? Of course not providing both parties are in agreemement.

In role play sessions the patient is really the one who's in control, if they say stop or use an agreed safe word then the role play must cease.

My take on this is that providing both the play "doctor" and play "patient" are both of legal age and it's understood by both parties that the scenario is adult role play and no form of payment is offered, then how can it be anything that contravenes the law?

How is this any different than consenting adults engaging in any form of contact which involves the genitalia. Is consensual sexual activity between adults illegal? Of course not providing both parties are in agreemement.

That's not really such an odd question. Not all that long ago gay sex was still illegal - until 1967 in the UK for instance - there were still all kinds of sodomy statutes on the books in many states in the US and not that long ago, there have been politicians running for state elections in US states who propose all kinds of legislation on curtailing and regulating sexual activity during their campaigns - most famously in Virginia where a politco running for governor promised to make oral sex, a blowjob that is (something as American as apple pie 😃 ) illegal as well as other kinds of 'deviant' sex.

Not enforceable you'll say and that is probably correct, but who wants to be the one caught anyway somehow and end up registered as a sex offender for the rest of their life?

Meaning that it's not that odd that people are wary of certain kinds of 'unusual' sex play. You just never know anymore nowadays what is legal, borderline or not. We are experiencing a very prudish backlash presently at the perceived licentiousness of past decades. The poor hippies from the 1960s usually get most of the blame for starting the down-slide into immorality. But frankly, I never noticed much immorality back then.

So, not really an odd or dumb question. And maybe this forum is a good place to answer such concerns.

most famously in Virginia where a politco running for governor promised to make oral sex, a blowjob that is (something as American as apple pie 😃 ) illegal as well as other kinds of 'deviant' sex.

I was a senior in high school when Virginia struck down its anti-sodomy laws--although that was only because of a Supreme Court ruling. I couldn't quite explain why at the time, but I was quite happy to hear the news. 😃

And yes, our former Attorney General (and gubernatorial candidate) was an odd one. In addition to wanting to reinstate Virginia's "crimes against nature" laws, he wanted to revise the state seal. The seal pictures a bare-breasted Roman goddess Virtus--and he wanted her toga to cover her up a bit more. Absolutely ridiculous.

Two words, consenting adults. As long as both participants are of legal age, and it is done in private, out of public view, it is no different than good old fashioned sex.

I agree with rabidbiker. As long as it's two consenting adults, there shouldn't be a problem.

Prostitution in the US is sex for money (I would know) and arrests are usually, but not entirely, based on solicitation, not a consummated act. You can see how it gets complicated when we are talking about some of the play physical exams that we have viewed in which the 'doctor' paid the 'patient' as a model, and the use of a modeling agreement.

Role play can be as complicated at times as laws about massage and bodywork. If you are not state licensed, you can't use certain phrases, but if you charge and avoid certain phrases, you still may not be clear. Hence regular crackdowns on CL posts in which someone is posing as a doctor, and the scenario is play, but realistic. It helps immensely to overstate that the 'doctor' is not a doctor, etc.

Easiest is two adults agreeing to have sex, during which they agree to act out a scene.

Based on my experience, it is helpful, important, to have lines clearly demarcated as to what a play physical exam might encompass. Then just enjoy it.

As long as it is two consenting adults and no money or goods are exchanged for services, then I don't think it fits any definition of prostitution.

As long as it is two consenting adults and no money or goods are exchanged for services, then I don't think it fits any definition of prostitution.

That still doesn't mean that someone in law enforcement, especially those wanting to make a name for their ambitious selves, won't try to figure out some kind of charge they can use anyway.

Based on my experience, it is helpful, important, to have lines clearly demarcated as to what a play physical exam might encompass.

Sounds like it wouldn't be a bad idea to see a lawyer beforehand too, get him to draw up a contract, just to make sure ... ha ha

I always agree the scope of any examination I give.

Without exception, penis and testicles are examined as part of the examination. Many times rectal examination is also agreed.

I can't see any problem.

This is play so anything previously agreed to should be fine.

Of course not, as long as it is consensual.

I realize it's been awhile, but I'd be interested in knowing what the OP's specific concern was.

As long as it's two consenting adults it should not be a problem . Usually we discuss generally how the examination goes.

My "doctor" gives me a prolonged genital examination both standing before him and face up on the exam table.

This was not discussed initially but was told my medical would be thorough and intimate. I have no problem with this despite my embarrassment when being measured.

I think its fine as long as there is consent

I very well remember a case in the news a few years back in Dallas. An undercover cop busted a playdoc and the charge was practicing medicine without a license. I remember there supposedly was a "menu" of services/activities tor the "patient" to check, and the exam was done at an "office" in an industrial park. Who goes to a real doctor's office in an industrial park?

Anyway, as I recall, the playdoc pled guilty and was sentenced to a few years' prison time. One of my thoughts was "There, but for the grace of God..."