Silicone sounds

I just ordered two silicone sounds from siliconenozzles.com. I ordered the 4 mm sound with stretching sleeve in 40 firmness that I know I can easily accommodate based on experience. The stretching sleeve at the end is what I am looking forward to for a sustained stretch. I also ordered the 7 mm 18" bored sound in 18 firmness. I hope the 18 firmness isn't too much, but I would like to fully insert into the bladder and figured the additional firmness above 10 may help. I also intend to play with ejaculating through the bore if the sound is not fully inserted to the bladder.

Anyone have experience with Bob's sounds from that site? I will review mine when I get them. I'm really excited to try more urethral play. Metal sounds have been fine but catheters have caused some bleeding, so I'm hoping that softer silicone will help.

I have a number of sounds from him. All are well made and much more interesting than traditional metal ones. They're also boilable and flexible, so even larger sizes are easier to tolerate. Firmer is better - "pushing a rope" is not what you want in your urethra.

Thanks for posting this link. Will be investigating their products more closely.

I am new to sounding, in fact, I just got 3 sounds this week from silicone nozzles. I ordered the 4mm stretch, I think it was 18" long, I got the 6mm stretch 6 1/2" long when fully inserted, don't know what it expands to but it is ..Interesting. I also got the 7-8 mm it is 9 1/2" long with a hollow core all these were #18 softness. I found that the 4mm is too small to be very exciting, they got the order messed up and sent one without expansion end. I am interested in getting an even larger size in a #3 where it will slowly stretch when inserted, or so Bob said on his site. It has a tendancy to be addictive and at the same time I haven't got to the point where I am really thrilled by the sensations.

Does anybody have an opinion about the artificial "fishing worms" in the sporting goods section? I'm just curious if they are safe.

Does anybody have an opinion about the artificial "fishing worms" in the sporting goods section? I'm just curious if they are safe.

We know you're not serious because no one would be stupid enough to actually do that.

IT'S FISHING GEAR designed to be swallowed by a fish, not a device designed to be inserted inside delicate anatomy. It's fine to use sporting goods stuff up your ass, but your urethra is a whole other ballgame. DON'T use that up your penis. You have no idea the fishing lure won't fall apart, and let's remember, you need to sterilize the damn thing first.

LOL Susie you definitely have a way with words.

Just ordered a flexible urethral sound. It looks intimidating to a newbie like me,(a bit thick), but can't wait 'til it arrives. I

I got the deer in the headlights kinda look lol totally wasn't expecting that.

The silicone sounds look very interesting and fun , of course thee most important thing is maintaining a sterile environment... UTI's can really cause some serious problems... Unlike the anus and rectum, the urethra cannot handle abuse. Play it safe, and clean!

Ordered one of these. We've enjoyed it quite a bit. My sub enjoys having it "violate" his penis. I enjoy that he is taking something from me and retaining it. Maybe in the future a larger one will be ordered for more "fun". Thanks for sharing the link for this company and their products.

I've made several orders from SN, but I can't seem to get some of them to fit. The ones with the textured and grooved tips, like the EXRB, just won't fit in the head no matter how much lube I use. Has anyone had any luck with a model that has a core? Does injecting lube down the sound as it's going down help it move downward once it's in?

Ours is the straight smooth one so haven't had to deal with texture yet. Will keep your comments in mind when and if we do decide to order a different one.

I've made several orders from SN, but I can't seem to get some of them to fit. The ones with the textured and grooved tips, like the EXRB, just won't fit in the head no matter how much lube I use. Has anyone had any luck with a model that has a core? Does injecting lube down the sound as it's going down help it move downward once it's in?

Inject a few cc's of lube down the urethra with a syringe (NOT with the needle attached) BEFORE inserting the sound or catheter.

If you can't get it into the head, you need a smaller sound unless you plan on some stretching exercises to enlarge the urethra at the head of the penis.

I have a couple of there sounds and I have no problem inserting them. I can take a 35fr sound with no problem as I have been stretching my urethra for a couple of years. Try smaller size and work up. I also did a meatotomy a couple of years ago.

If the sound is inserted deeply, ejaculation will not occur through the bore. Ejaculate come out of the prostate and if the sound passes through it, it could be painful.

I'm considering trying a silicone sound from siliconenozzles to attempt some long term stretching and have a few questions for those who have tried them.

-Doesn't water based lube dry out over long term wear? I can imagine that happening and it being no fun trying to pull it out later.

-Is a center bore a good idea or a bad idea? One the one hand, it enables drainage so it can be worn for several hours, though it would have to be stoppered or clamped shut somehow. On the other hand, it's not connected to a sterile urine collector bag and leaves the bladder wide open to bacteria.

-Is softness or firmness better? I'd like something soft enough to apply gentle stretching, but that could be difficult to insert, and once inserted, is super soft more likely to break on removal? 😞

You would definitely have to clamp a hollow sound because that would be a catheter and you would otherwise leak and drain all day long. Figure drainage would be1/2 to 1 ml per minute if unclamped.

The water soluble lube will work just fine even after hours of use. That's what we use in the hospital for catheters that stay in for days.

Moderate to soft would be good for a silicone sound. If you like, order a real catheter and you'll see it's firmness. You want it to easily follow the curves of your urethra. A silicone sound won't be rigid like a metal one, so you are probably safe with whatever degree of firmness they offer. Just insert it slowly and hold your penis up in the "erection position" when you insert it.

It is not likely to break at all.

I would use a solid sound, not a hollow one. You can urinate and re-insert it if you need to. You probably would find it inconvenient and annoying to wear it all day anyway.

Thanks, Susie, that's pretty much what I was thinking, though wasn't sure on firmness.

What about length? Why would anyone want longer than necessary to just enter the bladder? Wouldn't it just have to coil up, possibly irritating the lining wall? A Foley catheter doesn't do that, does it?

Don't get anything longer than 18 inches. That will allow about 8 inches in the bladder and you really do not want a lot coiling up in the bladder anyway. Trying to get more into the bladder when it is empty could actually injure or puncture the bladder and you don't want urine filling up your peritoneal cavity. Can you say surgical repair and urostomy?

Thank you. You've answered all of my questions perfectly. 😄

Okay Susie, please some quick advice from your vast expertise. I'm a doctor with foley experience so I know how to do things sterilely, but no sounding experience (yet). To start out, what do I buy from Silicone Nozzles or elsewhere In soft sounds? More later.

Thanks,

Eric

The silicone sounds can be managed exactly like a catheter. The insertion technique is the same regarding unwrapping, lubrication, insertion and penis position.

S L O W L Y increase the diameter after you find your initial, unstretched maximum size. Allow each sound to remain in place for 15 to 30 minutes for an atraumatic and comfortable increase in diameter. Of course if the speed you increase your size is all you care about and irritation doesn't matter to you, go ahead and quickly increase diameter but that isn't recommended.

If you get blood in your urine or bleeding on insertion of the sound. STOP and let it heal for several days. If you see cloudy urine, chances are you have a UTI. See your doctor and get antibiotics.

It's a good idea to use each individual size increase for at least a few days before increasing the diameter. Even following this, you will probably experience burning sensation when urinating for a couple of days.

One more thing: metal sounds feel smoother on insertion than silicone or other polymer sounds due to surface tension of the lube and surface energy of the silicone vs metal surfaces. Regardless of which you use, proceed slowly and don't force anything. A urostomy could be in your future.

It's your urethra. treat it kindly. You only get one.

Nice post on sounding. What smooth size silicone (and tell me metal sizes too as you said they're smoother to insert). diameter is good to start out with (I have no idea - haven't looked at a Foley size in years). Thanks.

Dr. Eric

Dr. Dick (same man, real name)

It depends on the size of your urethra, which does NOT necessarily correlate with the size of your penis. Pinch the urethral orifice and estimate the size you need. 16 French can be accepted by just about any man. Increase size from there. Many men can start with 20 Fr and can work up to 28 or sometimes 30 Fr after a lot of time stretching (months). Keep in mind if you stretch too far, you many deform the urethral meatus and instead of having the normal flat coherent urine stream, you may end up with a sprinkler which can cause wet pants and messy toilets.

I have concerns about how to sterilize these sounds. For metal I pressure cook or bake. For just dilation of the first 4 inches I had good luck with knitting needles and crochet hooks. The latter are solid aluminum and can be shaped with wet/dry sandpaper smooth. I found that when I stretched, and left something in--the device was held in by tension, that it hurt. I got to 9 mm and quit. The meatus is still a slit and I don't spray.

I've been wondering how to sterilize these, too. I'm guessing a good soap washing, then 30 minutes in a boiling pot of water, then maybe a wipedown with povidone iodine or alcohol using sterile gloves?

Then there's inserting it. Unlike a steel dilator, it's going to flop around make it easy to recontaminate. Probably should be using fenestrated sterile towel drapes or something around the work area.

Stretching the external urethra and the urethra are 2 construction sites.

The Meatus urethrae externus is best stretched with a penis plug with longitudinal bore. So that the plug can remain permanently inserted. Method. Insert a plug that just enters the meatus into the fossa navicularis urethrae. After about 2 weeks the plug will go out easily. Because the meatus has stretched due to the permanent stretch. Then you can import a 0.5mm larger plug. After 2 weeks the next and so on. With this method I can now introduce a 18mm penis plug.

To stretch the urethra from the fossa navicularis urethrae. It is best to take Hegar dilators for approx. 19cm long which can be easily inserted through the prostate. Residuals during insertion can cause some urethral strictures (strictures) and the prostate entrance These disabilities must be passed carefully to avoid injury. Cleanliness is absolutely important to avoid infections. Disinfect the dilator and a sterile lubricant is necessary. I use Xylocain Gel 2%. This is called then Sounden. After frequent use, the urethra will become accustomed to it and the initial impairments will no longer occur, so that the pleasant feelings will prevail. After some time you can use the next 0.5mm Thicker Dilator to stretch the urethra. How fast you can use the next size depends on the frequency of use and on the duration of stretching (1-2 hours), but it is still very tedious. It is relatively safe as long as you do not penetrate into the bladder. Because you can easily damage the bladder sphincter and thus trigger incontinence. In addition, you have no germ-free urine for rinsing the urethra more. That's why I usually only sound through the prostate and do not invade the bladder. With this method I have been able to insert a 12.5mm. The urethra makes a 90 ° angle to the top of the prostate, which can be easily passed through a Van Buren dilator, a flexible dilator, or a catheter to reach the bladder. It is also possible with a Hegar dilator but because you have to push the penis down.

I bought a hollow sound from the same place. I guessed at getting the proper size by using an art pen that has a very gradual tapered point.

I inserted into my penis and gently pushed it until it got too tight to go further. I made a mark on the pen then measured the circumference of the pen at that point using a cloth measuring tape.

Then I ordered one of the silicone nozzles that had varying sized bumps both slightly above and below my measurement. It's about a 16" long, hollow one which has come in handy for various different playtime ideas. Send me a message for details if you are interested?.

I ended up with a very suitably sized sound that has been a lot of fun and provided me with some gentle (and a little more aggressive) stretching. With regular use I was able to stretch enough to insert every ridge all of the way to my bladder.

Haven't used more than the first couple inches (for urine play) for awhile so now it's like a brand new sound - some of the large bumps require fresh stretching.

Reaching the prostate though is very enjoyable and I usually would taste prostatic fluid on the tip of the sound after removing it. ....fun times....