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is it possible for a man to penetrate a woman via the urethra what a tight fit that must be

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If you mean with the penis into the bladder, NEVER DO THAT and don't do it with your finger either.

I am interested in sounding, but want to understand what it feels like and what it does for you. Please explain this process and the benefits?

The sensation is almost impossible to describe, so I won't even try. To know what it feels like, you really have to experience it for yourself. If you're interested, you'll probably enjoy it. As for what it does, for some people it's very stimulating. The men I've sounded enjoyed it a great deal and both became semi-erect during the process. As a woman, I enjoy the sense of vulnerability that I experience from sounding. As well as the submissive aspect of it. To my way of thinking, it is a truly intimate act because, let's face it, the urethra is truly a private area for most of us.

As for the process, it's fairly simple. Wash your hands well, some people cleanse the urethral area with betadine or some other disinfectant/antiseptic and some wear gloves, take a clean sound, wipe it down with alcohol, gently insert the sound into the urethral meatus, and let the sound "fall" by its own weight as far as it wants to go. Don't ever force it. Then you can simply stroke your way to heaven. Above all, cleanliness is vital, this is an easy way to initiate a UTI if you're not careful. Pain is a sign from your body that you should stop.

Perhaps some of our gentleman members will come forward with more specific information about sensation, etc.

About disinfecting: I thoroughly understand the need to disinfect the areas, but I was wondering if betadine for instance would not really sting overly much should it be able to leak into the urethra or be brought into it by the sound ...

I can´t say that the thought of any stinging inside the urethra sounds very appealing ... though sounding does.

The proper and safest way to sterilize a urethral sound without the use of a pressure cooker or an autoclave is via the dry heat method. Any surgical steel-grade instrument will easily tolerate this method. Wrap a layer of aluminum foil around the sounds ensuring that the wrap is sealed on all sides (a single or double layer should be adequate. Put the wrapped package into a dry oven at 375 degrees F for 12 minutes. This does not include preheating time. At the end of the heating period, remove the package from the oven and let it air-cool. This will kill all pathogens, including spores and prions.

Regarding the use of Betadine (providone iodine) to disinfect body parts, this should not cause any stinging under normal circumstances. In fact, this is what is used in many, if not most prepackaged sterile catheterization kits. Surgilube or K-Y Jelly in sterile 3 or 5 gram packets should be used rather than a large tube, even if it says that the tube is sterile, because once the tube is opened, it can no longer be considered sterile.

Keep in mind that sterile gloves are no longer sterile if they touch an object or body part that is not sterile such as the external package of a catheter, or holding a penis while it is being disinfected with the Betadine.

Interesting about disinfecting via dry oven. Would this work with a microwave oven as well?

No agracier - Sounds are invariably of steel or plated copper. Metal will blow up your microwave.

There are plastic sounds but I wager they'd melt before sterilisation heat

Excellent points Deke, a karma for you. When I talked about wiping down a sound with alcohol, I meant immediately prior to use. Your dry heat sterilization procedure is exactly the same one I use at home (gosh I miss the autoclave I had at work). Just to be on the safe side, I wipe all instruments with 4x4 gauze soaked in alcohol.

One other thing I forgot to mention is that any urethral play should be accompanied by large volumes of liquid; water, cranberry juice, etc. to discourage any lingering bacteria from setting up housekeeping in your urethra or bladder.

Very recently, I finally was able to sound a woman. I met her online 2 years ago, and she finally passed thru NYC on her way to vacation with her family.

I wanted to do this with her because she is very experienced at sounding herself, and so I would know if I did something wrong -- she'd tell me.

She actually uses minimal sterile techniques -- partly based on what an EMT told her, and partly on her own extensive experience. She said that taking a lot of cranberry is her main secret.

She wanted me to use a metal sound (she uses a nylon rat tail comb handle at home), so I could attach my ET-312 estim device to the sound and her clit. I cleaned, alcoholed, and soaked a sound in boiling water. I used betadine around & inside the opening of the meatus, and lubed the sound with Surgilube repeatedly. I wore latex gloves. She, however, kept sticking her fingers there.

We did that, and she says she was in an almost continuous state of orgasm for 2 hours. Just what she waited for & wanted for 2 years. She had some incredibly strong orgasms during this time -- some just from my moving the sound itself, without any electro. And she liked having the Hitachi Magic Wand on her clit at the same time. (Next time I'll try the metal vibrating sound as an estim trode, to combine all these in one place.)

She said it was wonderful, and after taking a lot of cranberry, had no problems.

She may indeed be very experienced, but she doesn't sound very smart, at least not to me. A rat-tail comb handle? Seriously? I realize that sounding can be performed under "clean" conditions as opposed to sterile conditions but I would rather be safe at the start rather than sorry afterwards. And she may binge on cranberry juice afterward but for those of us on dietary restrictions, that's just not feasible. I'm glad you both had a good time, I hope she doesn't pay the price later.

ManyOohs4U: People can do a lot of things and not get injured in any way, but that does not make them smart or safe. I was an EMT, paramedic, and now an MD. I can say with certainty that I can't imagine an EMT offering this advice or even an opinion because it is well beyond their scope of practice. Paramedics have very different priorities than those that would be used in a hospital or in more controlled conditions. They are looking to stabilize a potentially unstable patient in an emergency setting. Minimally sterile techniques may be considered acceptable when the situation is dire and time is a consideration... infections can be prevented or cured with medications after the fact. No matter what your partner's experience, she is not using good judgement and should not be looked at as any kind of authority. Anything that goes into the urethra should be handled in a sterile manner, otherwise it's just a matter of time until a bladder, kidney, or prostate infection makes life quite unpleasant.

Please, Please be VERY careful with sounding! The urethera is a very fragile tissue that is easily infected and lacerated. It is almost impossible to sterilize the meatus so some introduction of bacteria is going to happen (the first few CM are not sterile - but it gets washed out regularly.)

I have done sounding and i agree that the feeling is indescribable - but it was done carefully with proper instruments and technique.

Read everything here (and ignore some advice that seems risky) buy good quality instruments, and learn how to sterilize them. Then study the anatomy in question - and if it hurts AT ALL, STOP!

If it bleeds more than a very little - get professional help. Permanent damage can be done that will affect you the rest of your life!

One needs to be sensible with sounding. The sounds must be sanitary, lots of lube used. You must be calm and not in a rush. Afterwards, drink lots of fluids and I especially recommend cranberry juice.

A sensible sounder will recognize their limits and not push them. My current limit is a 28FR Van Buren, but if I was a little too eager, I'd go down one size to a 26FR as the 26FR slips in very easily while the 28FR requires a little patience.

I have never had blood. Any sign of blood means back off!

Aside from a bit of post pee stinging for the first couple hours, I feel great afterwards. I find that my bladder empties much easier than before I took up sounding.

For Van Buren sounds, you need to be able to control your erections - being a somewhat older male helps. The sight of the big J hook appearance seems to make me flaccid and that is a good thing. Once it is in and I relax, I usually get an erection, tease myself a few minutes, then the erection goes. I never orgasm or ejaculate with the sound in me - I leave that for later.

I just bought a set of rosebuds and what a feeling vs van buren, but i found i had to be a little more careful taking them out. I don't have a naturally wide opening so i cannot take anything very large even when i work on it for a few days. I can go up to a 12fr right now and tried to get a 14 inserted and ouch! Backed off real fast.

Using medical sounds require sterilized sounds and a disinfected urethral opening. Sounds should never be forced in, and in fact, should slip in naturally via gravity. Although it might seem counterintuitive, using smaller sizes, anything smaller than a 16 FR, actually carries more risk because the smaller tip can more easily puncture the urethra than a larger size. Any gross bleeding is significant evidence that a puncture has occurred (also call a "false passage") and requires swallowing your pride and taking a trip to the doctor.

People should ALWAYS be familiar with catheter insertion BEFORE starting to use sounds so you can be accustomed to the sensations of the catheter or sound traversing the urethra.

If you want to sound see someone like a professional mistress first. use rosebuds first, clean the sound with a alcohol swab, then use sterile lube to cover the sound. gently put the tip of the sound to the bottom of the urethra opening, do not push the sound in let the weight of the sound push it in by gentlyholding the sound at the end. feel with your other hand where your prostate is and you want the sound to hit this area as this is what gives you the pleasurable feeling. the first couple night sting a lit but you will find once you work up to larger ones it becomes more pleasurable. the fit time you work pee afterwards is going to sting but this is just the sterile lube coming out to😃. good luck and i recommend you go to dungeon first to get it done by a professional 😃

Sterility: I have a giant canning pressure cooker, and wrap the sound in foil.

Insertion. The male urethra has a 4 inch radius curve. I have a 20 French stainless steel catheter that has a 90° bend with that radius curve. With penis pointing up toward head insert to bottom of the curve and then rotate the instrument toward the feet. That points the 'foot' of the ell to the correct angle to go in the bladder. It goes as easily as a rubber catheter. The sphincter When it's in, the end protrudes at a 90° angle to the body: if lying down it sticks straight up.

Urologists use straight cystoscopes to look in the bladder or other straight instruments to resect the prostate. The bend can be navigated, but carefully. I think a small sound is dangerous; too easy to poke a hole in something. I use a 20 or 22 Fr. I start by opening things with the curved one above, which is very safe. I put the straight sound in to the curve, and then depress the protruding end down toward the feet while slowly advancing it. Eventually then protruding end will be in line with the ureithral angle as it leaves the bladder, only about 3 inches. It does take some pressure. If it hurts, stop. I don't force it through. If it doesn't got to the bladder with a few ounces of pressure I back out and try again. I can enter the bladder 90% of time on first try. I measure the length of the catheter from tip to end of penis, and when the same distance of the sound is reached, I know it's in. also I can feel the resistance of the sphincter.

Fun: I use a vibrator on the metal. Feels very good. Never had an orgasm; never used electricity.

Proper sterilization using a pressure cooker requires 15 minutes of heating at 121 Deg C (or 250 Deg F). In order to reach that temperature, you need at least 15 psi.

Follow the advice here, and if possible enlist a pro with experience. When you feel that sound go in for the fist time, you will not believe the sensation!

Any one out there enjoy sounding? I know a lot of men do it but not much info about woman doing it. i have been sounding for a few months now and its a whole nother kinda orgasm !!

Hi there yes me and my partner often use sounding in her pee hole. We get it open and then use a syringe to squirt water into her this makes her cum lots when i have stimulated her clit.

MsKris

I've sounded women many times and every one of them LOVES it.