Inflatable balloon nozzle question....?

I have this silicone enema nozzle:

http://www.klystra.com/store/double-balloon-nozzles/f-2s-double-balloon-set-includes-2-pumps-and-connector-1

How many times do you folks pump up the balloons?

I usually pump the inner one 4-5 times and the outer one 2-3 times. I am curious how many times you can pump up the balloons. I had one pop already on a metal speculum while I was trying something new. Now i'm up to $300 in these nozzles. Not cool. It looks like I could go 6-7 pumps on the inner and about 4 on the outer.

Thoughts?

Found on the Klystra site , same text for the two sizes ,

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Only 2-4 pumps of air are needed for the bigger balloon and 3-5 pumps of air for the smaller balloon for proper use. If this is the first time using a double balloon nozzle start with only 1 or 2 pumps for the larger balloon and 2-3 for the smaller balloon. We only recommend using enough pumps to create a good seal as every person is different and some may need 1 or 2 more pumps than someone else.

This is a medical device that is not meant to be left in the body longer than you are retaining your enema. Only inflate after insertion and always deflate before removal.

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If you like to be full filled with a balloon you can try this : using a bulb N°8 you fix on the nozzle a hose with glue,

when glued , you deflate the bulb squeezing it , and achieve by sucking thru the hoze,

when completely deflated clamp the hose, lube the bulb , fold and shove in your ass ,

once shoved open the clamp and blow some air thru the hoze , enjoy !

to slide it out , suck the air out from the hoze , put the clamp , and safely and slowly slide the bulb out .

Huge feels garanty BUT USE THE RIGHT AND GOOD GLUE

I have never pumped the inner balloon more than 6 times, and the outer one more than 3. I have gone through 3 double balloon nozzles so far from Klystra, in as many years, and another from China that failed immediately. For months, Klystra and it's distributors have been "out of stock". In frustration, I ordered a latex double balloon (which has only one inflator that takes about 15 pumps to work for me) costlng about $150 plus shipping from a German company. It works, but not as well as the Klystra design, but seems a lot stronger. I've been on Klystra's waiting list for their "redesigned" 250/500 double balloon for about a year. I speculate that the old design was problematic, expensive and short lived. Why does it take this long to correct these problems? Will Klystra be here a year from now? I doubt it. Seems like bad management to me. I'm the former owner of a very successful small business which still rewards me with a very comfortable life. Klystra is doing something wrong. They had a nitch market that is fading quickly.

The bind is that we have outsourced both the design and the manufacturing of products, and who we outsource too is based almost exclusively on price. Suppliers are looking at what is their lowest cost, not the lowest total cost of ownership. This is how the Japanese so effectively sliced and diced the US auto industry. The Americans were looking at the lowest cost to produce, the Japanese were looking at the lowest total ownership cost. Ultimately the consumers made the choice based upon lowest total cost of ownership.

In any event making these devices out of silicon materials is more complex than making them out of latex, and those making them out of latex have been making these devices for a very long time in very large quantities with proprietary processes. Obviously they have figured out how to do it well.

By comparison Klystra and its suppliers have to design on a 'shoestring' budget, don't produce in anything like the quantities and don't have the decades of experience.

I have had very good experiences with latex double balloon catheters, but I have always treated them very carefully.

Hey e-mate:

I ordered two of the double balloons from that same company. My order and credit card were charged 28 days ago and I'm still waiting to receive the goods. How long did it take for receipt of your order?

I purchased these because Klystra has been out of stock for such a long time. I've gone through 3 of their 500/250 silicon tubes in 3 years. One of them lasted maybe through 40-50 inflation cycles. Another only about 5. All of them had the inner balloon burst on me during heavy peristolysis and contractions. Before going to Klystra, I used the rubber 250/250 from the big German company, and this one lasted years. I still have and use the 250's, but really need a bigger balloon. Even pumped up, the 250's have popped out of me on occasion.

Arthur--what you copied is a typographical error seen on their website.

Found on the Klystra site , same text for the two sizes ,

### copy from Klystra user memo ###

Only 2-4 pumps of air are needed for the bigger balloon and 3-5 pumps of air for the smaller balloon for proper use. If this is the first time using a double balloon nozzle start with only 1 or 2 pumps for the larger balloon and 2-3 for the smaller balloon. We only recommend using enough pumps to create a good seal as every person is different and some may need 1 or 2 more pumps than someone else.

This is a medical device that is not meant to be left in the body longer than you are retaining your enema. Only inflate after insertion and always deflate before removal.

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The larger balloon gets more pumps than the smaller one, which should be obvious.

I have always used five or six pumps for the 500cc balloon and 2-3 pumps for the outer 250 cc balloon.

The 750/250 cc balloon gets 6-8 pumps for the 750 cc and 2-3 pumps for the outer 250 cc balloon.

I also have a 750/250 and use 6-8 for the 750 and a 2-3 for the external. It really is a nice feeling once inflated inside. What seems to wear out sometimes are the inflators. Perhaps mine are cheap, but they've got a little rust on them and I will need to replace them fairly soon.

I never used a double balloon enema, but ALLWAYS want and dream about !

I also was surprised by the pump amounts because differents sizes, without experience I copied with reserves what they writed.

Thank you for sharing the reals values, so when she will use our new double balloon, we will not be surprised.

It depends on the size pump you use. The ones that came with my double balloon recomended 3 to 4 for the inner balloon and only 1 for the outer balloon. One of the pump release valve began to leak by and I replaced it with another pump I had. It took more pumps on the smaller pump to get the same inflation.

If anyone has a 'stuck' pump valve again, try banging the rubber pump on a hard surface a couple of times. There's some kind of flap inside the pump which is intended to only allow air into the pump, and not back out. Sometimes this flap gets stuck in the open position. I threw away a couple of pumps before I realized that they can often be saved for further use.