Female urethral play

I am very suseptible to UTIs but have been fascinated with cath play for some time now. I found that intermittent catheters from Rochester medical have worked great for me. They offer many varieties. I ordered the antibacterial for a female and also use the iodine swabs. I make my hubby glove up and use three swabs on the urethera area prior to the cath. he then uses sterile Sugilube lube to lube the cath. he then uses a new pair of gloves and puts the catheter in that wonderful fobidden place and drains me dry. Awesome feeling that I cannot describe! Ordered 6 of them to start and need to place another order. We do not incoprorate this every doctor session as I would like to keep it a "treat" I never know when it's coming. The doctor decides when this is necessary. I am afraid to try a foley as they are more in depth and am afraid of possible complications. I just wish my hubby would share my interest in receiving a cath. he only likes to deliver !

anal69

Welcome to the world of cath play and congrats on using a very safe and sterile procedure.

You are mistaken on foleys being more 'in depth'. A balloon catheter (foley) is inserted the same length as an intermittent catheter. The only difference is in the length of the catheter itself. You didn't make note of which Rochester cath you are using, but assuming that you opted for the shorter (6 inch) female cath, this is much shorter than the standard 16 inch foley. However, you don't have to insert the foley in the full 16 inches -- and indeed, should not for a female patient. Insert the same length as you are doing for the IC that you have become accustomed to.

Enjoy your new play.

Again, thanks for sharing, Anal69. Your post is excellent, and how lucky you are to have a partner who is willing to play with you in this wonderful and intimate way. And who knows, he may loosen up and let you return the favor to him some day? In the meanwhile he is bringing you a great deal of pleasure from the sounds of it. Good luck, and keep playing together.

The element of surprise is an excellent part of this kind of shared stimulation. I hope you will continue to share your experiences with all of us here at the eclinic.

And as Klystersforme has suggested, don't be afraid of trying out the Foley indwelling catheters. They may open up new possibilities for play -- and it sounds like your husband has mastered the requisite sterile techniques. Regularly draining your bladder may actually help to prevent the recurrence of UTIs by eliminating retained urine. So play in good health!

Start with catheters and do yourself first so you know what it feels like. Only use sterile instruments and lube. Use betadine to clean the vaginal area or penis before insertion. Men are harder to sound and catheterize than women because the urethra is longer and curved.

In women, the urethra is short and straight, about 1 1/2 to 2". In men it is curved and 8-16" depending on how long the penis is, if it is erect, etc. Use about a 16 Fr catheter. If you want, later you can go up in size, one size at a time. Use a plain catheter, NOT a foley that you inflate, until you are experienced and really know what you are doing.

WARNING--Don't fuck up your women's urethra. You could make her incontinent for life or require surgery to correct. Either way, you will be toast. No one will be happy if you cause an infection either.

OK, I went through my files and I have posted this before, but can't find where, so here it is again:

If you use an appropriately sized catheter, plenty of lubricant and know how to do it, it is not painful. I don't have any pain when the catheter is inserted, and my husband will tell you it feels good, and he has described the sensation as "an orgasm in reverse" as the catheter goes through the prostatic portion of the urethra. There are also nerve endings throughout the urethra, especially in the male, which produce very pleasurable sensations. You and he will know you are in the prostatic urethra because there is an increase in resistance as you insert the catheter, followed by a decrease in resistance as it slips into the bladder. The catheter will go in about 8-10 inches (when flaccid) depending on the length of the penis and whether or not is erect when it is inserted. Obviously this length will be somewhat more if he is erect.

Stuff about pain: We generally hear horror stories about how catheterization hurts like hell. No one comes back from their physician and says it was no big deal. There are two good reasons for this. The first is no one wants to be labeled a perv by saying it was pleasurable (people like sympathy points) and second, most people having it done by their physician typically have a bladder or urethral infection, or some other problem, and then it will hurt. A healthy bladder and urethra will not have pain when a catheter is properly inserted. That’s why people like doing it!

Here are the caveats. Heed them:

Clean your hands (gloves are good) and the penis thoroughly with soap and water, then swab with betadine over the head of the penis. For yourself, clean your partner’s hands, your hands and vulva, your hair too if not shaved) and swab with betadine.

For a man you have never catheterized before, a 16 Fr sized catheter is the best starting point. If that goes in very easily and you want to go larger, go to 18 Fr, then 20 Fr and so on. Do not jump sizes. Do not assume that just because the penis is large that the urethra will also be wide in diameter. If you start too large, you may cause irritation and/or bleeding, and unless you and your partner are into blood (some people are, but this is not a good part of the anatomy for blood sports) this might be the last time your man will allow you to do this.

For yourself, a good starting point would also be the 16-18 French size. The female urethra is slightly larger in diameter than the male. To insert the catheter, lubricate the orifice of the urethra with a blob KY and coat the end couple of inches of the catheter. You’ll feel the tip enter the orifice and slowly insert it. You will feel a little resistance increase as you pass through the sphincter, then it will slip right into the bladder. The female urethra is only about an inch and a half or so long, so you’ll get right in. Have a bowl or container of sorts ready, because you will have a “champagne” fountain of urine to collect.

For your man, after cleaning with soap and water and betadine, place a blob of KY on the tip of the penis (no such thing as too much lube) and the end few inches of the catheter. Slowly insert the catheter. Here is where it can be tricky, after it goes in the length of the penis, lift the penis up into the position it takes when it becomes erect, because that will straighten out the urethra and it will go in much more smoothly and with less irritation than if you kept the penis down. After it is in about 8-12 inches or so, depending on the length of the penis, you will feel the resistance increase as you get to the prostatic portion. He will be able to tell you it is there, (that’s the reverse orgasm sensation) then after another inch or so, you’ll be in the bladder, so have a container ready for the flow!

If you need to add more lube to a catheter, go ahead. DO NOT USE SALIVA. It will introduce mouth bacteria to areas that never experience them, and infection will result

After this kind of play, especially if you have "virgin urethras" you will probably notice a little burn afterwards for a day or two when you urinate. This is normal and doesn't mean anything is wrong. If you become experienced with urethral play--catheters and sounds and the like, you won't have that sensation when you pee afterwards. If burning persists, you might need an antibiotic. This type of play is not without its risks.

Insertion of sounds is the same as catheters with one great exception: Catheters are flexible and will follow the curves inside the anatomy. A sound is a rigid piece of metal. In women the sounds are easily inserted into the bladder because the urethra is short and straight. Some types of sounds are straight and they will NOT make it into the bladder in men because the urethra is curved like a "J" as you go underneath the scrotal area and curve back up towards the bladder. Other sounds are "J" shaped, and with careful practice you will learn to introduce them into the bladder. After passing through the penis and passing the tip downward, you will need to direct the sound around the curve by taking the handle of the sound and pulling it away from the abdominal area so the tip follows the urethral path back up to the bladder. Again, as with the catheter, as you reach the prostatic portion of the urethra, you and he will feel the sound meet some resistance and then slide into the bladder.

Have fun, be careful, stop if there is real resistance and be good to one another.

On my g/f, i had her lay down and and placed a pillow to elevate her bottom, then i lubed a old rectal thermometer, with a tube of KY, i placed a dab in my index finger. with my opposite hand i parted her lips to expose her urethra. slowly i introduced the tip into her hole. slowly twisting and advancing i inserted. then i begin stoking it in and out to her pleasure.

A couple weeks ago I had the pleasure of examining a new patient. She authorized urethral stimulation and dilation. She had no previous experience whatsoever with urethral play and was somewhat apprehensive but willing to try it. I began by positioning her in the standard lithotomy position with thigh cuffs (attached by cords to the bed headboard) serving to hold her knees up and apart. I inserted a large size stainless steel Collins speculum to allow for easy access to her urethral meatus. It was located fairly high and easy to find. I began with a minimally invasive procedure - I took her temperature urethrally using a digital thermometer and only introduced as deep as the beginning of the flare. This was less than an inch deep and just enough to get her accustomed to the sensation of something entering her urethra. Her reactions indicated that the sensations were pleasurable. Then I switched to a FR10 Rosebud sound, which was just a bit larger in diameter than the tip of the thermometer. I introduced the sound into her urethra, at first only as deep as the thermometer and then further until it reached her inner sphincter muscle. She was still doing fine so I gently pushed it in just enough so the end of the bulb tip entered her bladder. She especially enjoyed the way that felt and was agreeable to further exploration. I switched to a FR14 Rosebud and repeated the procedure. As expected, she found the larger diameter to be much more stimulating. After several strokes into her inner urethral sphincter I pushed the bulb tip fully through into her bladder, withdrew it back through the sphincter, and then back inside, etc, essentially masturbating the entrance of her bladder. She became extremely aroused (clitoris fully emergent, involuntary anal contractions) and was approaching orgasm. I preferred to dilate her a little further before letting her climax so I discontinued stroking and withdrew the FR14 Rosebud and switched to a series of Dittle sounds beginning with FR18. These were each introduced deeply enough to enter her bladder, but I refrained from stroking them. The mere sensation of fullness was sufficient to maintain a high level of sexual arousal. I continued with larger Dittles in step sizes of FR2. I instructed her to let me know if she began to feel discomfort. She was up to FR26 before she said the size was large enough. She was extremely aroused at this point and asked for permission to climax ("Please may I cum Sir?") as submissive women are sometimes trained to do. I withdrew the FR26 Dittle and replaced it with a flexible "sound" of my own design. This is simply a 12" length of 1/4" OD (approx FR19) vinyl tubing with a Rosebud-like stainless steel tip that is 8mm diameter (FR24). I introduced the flexible sound fully into her urethra so that the tip passed through into her bladder. Then I carefully closed and withdrew the speculum leaving the flexible sound lodged in her urethra. I also released her thigh cuffs and wrist cuffs. Then I instructed her to grip the end of the tubing and showed her how to gently stroke it in and out of the entrance of her bladder for maximum stimulation. At this point she was extremely aroused and again begged for relief. I had her hold the flexible sound up to allow for access to her vagina, and then penetrated her vaginally with my penis as she masturbated herself with the sound. She climaxed shortly thereafter. Her orgasmic contractions were intense and continued for several minutes! All things considered, her first experience with urethral stimulation went very well indeed.

I had my g/f lay on her back with here legs parted on the bed, i grabbed a rectal thermometer lubed it with KY. i parted her lips and had her hold them back to expose her entrance. i added a little dab of KY to her urethral opening and slowly introduced the tip inside. advacing slowly and gently twisting i could tell she was aroused to the feeling. at the entrance to her bladder ,i slowly massaged the tip in and out. with my tongue i stroked her clit and inserted my finger into her vigana. did't take long for her to climax

There are few messages about female catheterization. For me walking outside with a 22ch foley and a leg bag under a large skirt is great. Just stays up stockings, no pants. Try it, drink tea as you want and forget toilet research!

Hegar or Pratt dilators work well with females. Be careful not to insert too deeply as a woman's urethra is only about 1 1/2 inches long.

Speed

We are talking about doing some cath play also. I have been searching for places to buy them. Believe it or not you can fine them on Amazon. I am just not sure what kind or size to purchas. I read a website that talked about using at least the first time a child size cath.

A little scary at first, especially if you are prone to UTI's. Disinfectate and 10x's more. I almost think occasional use has helped me with my problem. I have had to medically have the pee hole stretched 2x's in past. Have not had many problems since I started the pee hole play. Oh, the medical stretching is NO FUN at all. I have been in tears!

Usually the first time there is a little pain but after that u get a feeling like u need to pee. I get a tingling i reaqlly enjoy it.

When I am "warming up" my lover, I will scribe circles in her urethral opening with my finger tip and she reacts quite favorably.

^^^^ At least we have short urethras to make insertion easy! 😜

The shortness of the female urethra can be a blessing and a curse. As it is a straight, more or less path, it is very easy to play with sounds. The shortness can also contribute to UTI issues.

Speed

Yes speed - you're right about the shorter female urethra being prone to UTI's.

It's one of the reasons of course why ladies should use care when wiping after BM's, front to back, fresh tissue for each 'pass' etc.

Am sure our lady members are aware but no harm reminding.

I'll tell you about how I came to learn about urethral play. You might find it interesting. I first learned about it from the original lady I refer to as "Michelle" in my stories. She was remarkably kinky. Once we were indulging in our favorite pastime (I was giving her a breast exam at the moment) and she got up and excused herself to go use the bathroom. A few minutes later she came back and she had her hand over her crotch and a naughty smile on her face.

I told her to show me what she was hiding and when she moved her hand aside I saw the bristle end of a toothbrush projecting out from between her labia. She had surprised me before with the unusual objects she used as dildos and I always got a kick out of it. However, this time it was different. I had her use her hands to open her labia and that's when I saw that the handle was not inside her vagina at all, it was slightly above in her urethral opening instead! She had about 1/2 the length of the handle inside her. As I watched the toothbrush gradually began to slip out on its own. So of course I gently pushed it back in about as deep as she had it. She told me how it felt really good just as it would go through the muscle at the entrance of her bladder. I withdrew it a little and then slipped it back up inside really slowly and she told me exactly when she was feeling that inner penetration. I could feel a very slight resistance myself just as it was going through. She really was getting turned on by my manipulations and I thought it was pretty damn hot myself. She put one foot up a chair to give me better access. I gently stroked that brush in and out with the stokes being only maybe an inch or less, just enough for the end of the brush to slip in and out of her bladder. She came quickly and it was a looooong orgasm. It just kept going as long as I was stroking the brush in and out until finally after a minute or two she couldn't take any more.

After that we would occasionally include urethral dilation in our medplay. I made the first set of sounds myself and then we had different sizes. My biggest one was slightly thicker than the toothbrush handle. I also bought some catheters in different sizes. The material made a big difference. She said the sounds and even the toothbrush handle felt better than the red and orange rubber (latex?) catheters but the clear vinyl catheters were much more slippery and felt good, especially the hydrophylic coated ones. I liked the catheters because they were flexible and she tended to get pretty animated when she would have an orgasm. I was always concerned with the sounds and her toothbrush handle because they were rigid. However, I couldn't find the clear vinyl catheters in sizes big enough for maximum stimulation. She liked the stretching sensation too. So I tried something and got a length of 3/8" clear vinyl tubing and made a rounded stainless steel tip with a little stem on it that fit very tightly into the tubing. Essentially the whole thing was like a flexible sound. The tubing was big enough to give her the stretching sensation she wanted but not at all rigid. She could thrash around all she wanted without me worrying that she was going to poke herself inside. The tip I made was a little bigger diameter than the tubing so it tended to stay in once the tip was inserted deep enough to enter her bladder. She could stand up and walk around and it would not slip out. The tip did not have a hole in it so leakage was not an issue, and the tube was long enough so that there was no possible way it could slip all the way inside and get lost.

That opened up a lot of possibilities. Once I inserted that flexible sound and then had her get dressed and I took her down to the lounge for a couple drinks. She said she could feel it the whole time as she was getting really, really aroused. She was wearing a skirt and no panties. When she shifted around in her seat the tube would move and then she could feel it even even more. I had her reach down and adjust the tube so it was laying over her thigh, but still covered by her dress. Then I could manipulate it a little - and it just looked like my hand was on her thigh. I didn't even have to reach under her dress. It was easy to stroke it in and out a little and I made her have an orgasm sitting right there at the bar in the hotel lounge. That was really cool! She tried her best to not look obvious - but I sure could tell ha ha ha. She gasped and shuddered when the climax hit. And she got damn red!

When we finally got back to the room she had to pee because of the drinks but at the same time she was all super aroused by the feeling of the tube inside while walking back. Obviously she couldn't pee with it still inside, and I told her that I wouldn't take it out until she had few more orgasms. She was a good subbie and at the time pretty desperate with the need for sexual release and to pee so that made her even more inclined to follow Doctors' Orders. I had her bend over the bed, I lifted her skirt and I took her vaginally from behind with the tube still inside her urethra. I could actually feel the bulge of it along the upper wall of her vagina. The extra stimulation got her to orgasm in a hurry. Then I took her skirt off, took her into the bathroom, and had her sit on the toilet and I made her climax again by stroking the tip in and out of the entrance of her bladder. As she started to climax I withdrew it completely. I have NEVER seen a woman gush like that before. Her urethra must have been very dilated because her flow of urine was like a fire hose - and she was climaxing the whole time!

One last thing. While this is an accurate account, it doesn't include details about what measures we took to assure that everything is sterile. That subject is well covered in other posts on this board. Above all - play safe!!!

Absolutely, what the above posters said. DO NOT use generic tubing. Use only real catheters.

I had never thought about urethral play until I stumbled across one of those "how to" vids and the lady was talking about the "u spot". Talking about another errogenous zone for women, in addition to the infamous "g spot". Now I love it, and I encourage all my patients to at least try it.

I have used my husband's urethral e-stim probe on myself without any problem, but I have to say, I like e-stimming my vagina, clitoral area/labia across the clitoris, one pad on each side of the clit, and anal and rectal areas better.

I am a huge fan of urethral play and catheterisation (within the context of safe practices, sterile equipment etc). I think this partly stems from having been catheterised in hospital when I was younger and finding it a very strange, intense feeling. I knew I wanted to explore it further and I have been able to do so with play partners. I find sounds very sensual and arousing. Safety is, of course, paramount and there are some key issues raised in the other thread about safety. However, the feeling of sounds or a catheter being inserted while I am already stretched wide open with a speculum is very special and different from any other stimulation.

UTI Prevention

I have played around, inserting objects in my urethra and even externally filled my bladder using a soft plastic tube. But I have never gotten an infection because I prepare before playing:Here are my suggestions

1. Drink a huge amount of water so that lots of new pee will be coming in to help flush germs out after playing..

2. Clean all equipment.

3. Prior to insertion, pee as hard as possible, to flush and cleanse the urethra from germs lingering inside.

4. When done playing, empty the bladder and drink more water.

Here are some other tips

Prior to playing, thoroughly clean your crotch using soap and water. Wiping merely spreads germs. The best technique is to take a shower and scrub everything, inside and out, using antibacterial soap. (This is a good habit for everyday not just when playing)

Use an antiseptic lubricant.

Don’t play too long. One should be able to have an orgasm in less than 30 minutes, after which all objects should be removed and the bladder complexly emptied. Continue to drink lots of water to refill the bladder and pee frequently for the next few hours to flush everything out.

I have been playing for years and have never had a problem.

Amy,

Welcome to the forum. While you have the right to play (with yourself) in whatever way you see fit, for the sake of safety I'm going to reiterate, once again, you shouldn't put anything that's not sterile into the urethra. Sterile catheters and sterile insertion packs are cheap and easy to buy on the internet. I for one, would not risk my health, or that of my partner by inserting anything in my urethra, or his, that wasn't sterile. For me, that's a "no ifs and or buts" rule.

Play safe!

LadyDoc

Just a quick note about what Dr. Wellhung wrote...my experience with a cathed woman and their orgasm are twofold....one, releasing the urine flow just as she reaches the point of no return in her orgasm..incredible responses...sometimes I open the cath wide open and she has pressure...sometimes I pinch the flow and allow only a dribble, when she senses this, it even increases her level of orgasm. The second issue is whenever the cath itself is removed at that crucial point in her orgasm. I have had the girl shudder like she's freezing, cry out in her climax and pee like the proverbial "race horse" regardless, the orgasms are stronger and more sustained.

I know quite a bit about this, and thought I'd add a my view point:

1) Yes, cath and sound play can cause serious problems, such as perforations and infections.

2) But, driving and skiing are dangerous too.

3) Like target shooting or ski-diving or canning beans, it is imperative that someone learn how to properly perform a particular activity.

4) That said, it isn't rocket science and plenty of non-professionals catheterize them selves for medical reasons.

5) You body doesn't know if you need a cath for medical or play reasons! It makes no "moral" judgments.

6) My opinion is, like scuba diving, if you really like it, learn what you are doing, be carefull, and enjoy!

I'm addicted to sounding. If you're interested, and once you know what you're doing, the best way to go is to buy a kit. Obviously start with the very smallest and simplest, and go from there. I adore the sensation of the" pulling" when withdrawing it. There is a style called the "rosebud" which is one of my favourites. Or, somethings I just like a larger-bore which will "tug" nicely when withdrawing.

No matter how much I try to enjoy otherwise, I really prefer to do it myself. Really can't say why, because I certainly enjoy not being in control of other penetration.

What do others here think about that? I get the impression that most like the have a partner directly involved. I love it being watched, but really like to do it myself. I also like to watch myself in a mirror...

I'm interested what others here think of the relationship to cathing or sounding and water sports?

I agree with what has been said. Using the betadine before and then sterile gloving is helpful in preventing infection. As fas as a balloon catheter, it goes in to about the same depth as a non-balloon catheter. Just insert it until urine starts to drain and then another 1 to 2" before you inflate the balloon to prevent inflating the balloon when it is still inside your urethra. Once the balloon is inflated, you can gently pull it back until the balloon prevents it's removal. Then, enjoy!

I composed this for an email reply, but thought I'd share it:

"Once the KY or whatever has been on awhile, pulling the catheter gives quite the tug you mentioned" Exactly. Ya, gotta let the KY adsorb. And, yea, penetrating the the sphincter is very nice. Oh, if you hadn't mentioned the KY having to ware off to "tug", I just wouldn't believe you. How lovely! Oh, I do have a few fantasies which I really don't talk about much. But, one I have shared here is that I really. really want to be watched by someone who appreciates it and gets turned on by it. I've been watched before, but, well, truth be told, rather reluctantly. I HATE perfunctory sex! No ones fault, really. If you don't really like something, well, you just don't. I'd love someone to hold my labia open and encourage me to penetrate my orifice. And, when the sound is sliding in, to marvel at how I can take it, and describe how stretched out I am, and ask me if it hurts or not. And tell me what they'd like to see me do, and how to stroke and if I thought I could possible take a wider one. Then asked me to get into different positions, and "show" how full and tightly it is being held. Even ask me to walk while holding it in, and let me show how I can put on a snug pair of panties and walk around easily. Even ask me to me on a skirt and go to the mailbox while penetrated. Finally to beg to see me withdraw it, and encourage me to "let it go" and tell me how good it will feel to get it out, and to burst forth with pee... 'phew'.. I'm getting pretty wet!

One game I wold really like to play, is to have someone have me hold my water while sounding or catheterized, and plead with me to hold it just a while longer. Like, for example, to say it is exciting for them, and not to "ruin" the moment. But, then finally, to "allow" me to void. I've never done that, but I know I'd love it! I think I could relax enough to enjoy allowing my partner to slowly remove the sound while watching and masturbating. Well I know I could do it, but don't know if I could enjoy it. I think so.

So, do tell me a bit about what you folks do! It's fine if you cut and past it from a previous account. I myself have been re-typing the same things a bit now, and can see how it can get tedious. Also,I if you can post a link to some good video you like, that might be fun. I have only four on sounding/catheterizing I enjoy. The rest are either silly, or boring, or some grainy black and white with no sound which make a medical film seem exciting!

I don't like S&M, but LOVE teasing and cajoling, as well as true PASSION.

Another one, if I were standing there naked, and you had the power to keep me from peeing. My bladder being at its limit and I not knowing what to do. Not wanting to pee in your view but I knowing it wouldn't last much longer and I would have to pee in front of you. Trying to stand normal, but my bladder spasming so I have to bend down a bit. I grab a desk with one hand to keep my body up and the other hand I used to press into my crotch as hard as I can. You looking at me and I asking if I want use the toilet. Explaining that I may not, but soon can pee in a crystal vase in the corner when you say so. I'm really in panic I explained my situation and how badly I have to pee and so on. During which I try to stand still but I have to squirm a lot to not let it go. You tell me: "When I'm excited enough, then you may step over an relieve yourself in the vase" It's embarrassing but feeling the first little spurt escape and pulling up harder and harder: "Please, I'm about to pee every second, I can't last any longer." "I'm sorry, but I'm just not ready", you say casually stroking yourself. I interrupt, nearly falling down from the way I had my legs knotted together, carefully holding the sound: "I can't cope with any more delay, please!" But although it must be been obvious that I really needed to pee very urgently you don't allow it and I eventually feel some pee leaking past the sound and out. At that point you conceded permission, and I take two steps and again I had to pause to stop the pee.... but this time I can't walk anymore without leaking. My pee was already sneaking out and only stopped from the pressure of my hand. It hurts terribly and I almost fear to injuring myself. Sweat running down my neck and chest, I finally hobble to the vase, squat over it, let my leg but slip off to the left, pull my labia open and finally, slowly, withdraw the sound, and start peeing a torrent right into the vase and on the floor...everywhere.. but I don't care because of the joy of release....

I love being cathed and playing with sounds. Clean and sterile is the key to making this a success.