Forced sexual intercourse, but no violation

In a relationship there exist different forms to associate with each other: from a partnership to the use of force. Especially if one partner wants to have sexual intercurse, but the other not, there exist intermediate forms, this up to the point, that the reluctant partner - generally the woman - will have difficulties to say in good time its "No" - this clearly and distinctly - this with the effect, that afterwards the woman will be totally sour and regards this act as an injury. In the following video you may see this problem very clear:

http://www.hardsextube.com/video/126526/

That clearly was NOT rape, Not even forced sexual intercourse..

Her husband was being a pain in the ass and very annoying, but it wasn't rape at all.

She had numerous opportunities and plenty of time to simply leave the room while she brushed her hair, but she never did, and all she ever did was make playful swats at him.

She never refused his penis in any orifice and never put up any real fight.

She even remained on the couch while he changed his positions with her. Towards the end, she was even on top of him sucking and fucking him.

She probably had a good orgasm in the end.

My daughters even know that of they don't want sex to leave the premises, kick them in the balls or to punch or poke the guy in the eye, dig their fingernails firmly in their eyes to rip them out, break their nose or punch them in the ear or adams apple. . . . Yes, I taught them to do that.

I had thoughts along these lines as well. Good share though, so thank you.

I also had some other thoughts.

1) Why didn't she use any soap?

2) Why didn't she close the shower curtain? Who takes a shower and doesn't close the curtain?

3) How did he get out of the bathroom without her seeing him?

4) Why did she sit on the end of the couch and turn the TV on when he clearly was already playing the stereo probably trying to drown out the sound of their love making?

5) Again, why didn't she use any soap? Ewwwww.

6) Is it even possible to get clean in a tub that filthy? Nasty!

Just a few thoughts, lol.

Mashie

You are absolutely right. The whole thing is a fabrication.

Switchablesusie, Mashie,

I agree totally, you are right in all your points, but still I remark the original problem, that comes up for discussion in many judicial hearings: voluntary or being forced?

Ricini, I think you're a little off the path here. What is portrayed in this video is clearly staged and the female was as much of a participant as the male. There was no rape here, no force and only a sham of protest. She could hardly claim rape since at the end, she was going to town on top of him. As Susie points out, there are numerous effective ways to stop forcible sex. A distinction needs to be drawn between real life and consensual non-consent and other types of rape play. This scene is, frankly, pure fiction.

I've never been in a situation like this in real life, but if a man pestered me and then became forceful, he would bleeding from at least one orifice, trust me.

Ladydocisin,

You hit the nail squarely on the head, put it in a nutshell, in writing: "A distinction needs to be drawn between real life and consensual non-consent and other types of rape play."

I'm not too keen on the existence of "date rape" either. The woman (or man) can always leave or beat their "friend" they are dating.

I never heard of "date rape" happening with a knife to the throat or a gun held to anybody's head.

Date rape, and "changing your mind" during sex is a lot of baloney to me.

If you don't want it, LEAVE or beat the guy.

@ Switchablesusie.

"Date rape, and "changing your mind" during sex is a lot of baloney to me." REALLY ??

date rape DOES happen. not all its victims are quick, aware or even intelligent.

when you make ignorant comments like the one above, you effective invalidate the

entire corpus of your contributions.

I think girls and women need to be responsible for their actions. They can't get started and then blame it on the boy, especially when it carries such severe lifelong penalties for them.

Like I said in my earlier post, short of the attacker having a weapon like a gun or a knife, my girls know exactly where and how to beat the crap out of a boy if they don't want to have sex.

Women have to be responsible for their actions.

You say not all the victims are intelligent. Well, then their parents screwed up and did a lousy job educating their children. Unfortunately, there are casualties in every day life. People do get hurt and no one and nothing can prevent every calamity. People have to be careful and responsible and aware of their surroundings. If you aren't too swift, you should put yourself into a such a situation.

Allowing the girl to blame it on the boy makes the girl less responsible for her bad decisions and actions. That just isn't right.

Switchablesusie,

I agree with you on all points.

There was a date rape at a hotel in St. Louis. I think I saw the woman the next morning when she left. She was left tied to the bed for the maid to find.

If she had gone straight to the police, she could have nailed the rich bastard. The woman I saw leaving was obviously a disheveled mess and not thinking clearly. She waited a week before friends convinced her to report it.

I also dated a girl in college who broke up with me. Two weeks later she called and had to meet me. She had almost been raped by a frat boy the night before .

I would like to give both those guys a taste of what it is like.

I don't want to start a moral/ethical brouhaha but I lean towards Susie's line of reasoning on the subject of date rape. I don't disagree that it happens, but I think that in many cases women allow themselves to get into situations where they are vulnerable. I have never considered myself prudish, but I have never placed myself in that kind of jeopardy. I have, as Susie says, been responsible for my actions and I have been careful. When I was out and about a lot, I never went to places such as bars or clubs, that I wasn't familiar with. In fact, I had one or two favorite establishments where I felt comfortable and where the staff knew me.

The presence of date rape drugs should have put the fear of God into women but when I go out, I still see women walk away from the bar or table leaving their drinks unattended. Or they let their companion go to the bar, get a drink and bring it back to the table which allows ample time for tampering. I have never participated in word games, no means no and that's that, it never means maybe or yes. If I ever had an uneasy feeling about the person or situation, I ended the date. My mother's words have stayed in my head "never leave home without enough cash for cabfare back home".

I may have put myself in danger when working with animals, but not from another human. To be safe, one must rely on oneself, even to the point of being thought of as a btich, if that's what it takes.