Read below a couple of interesting experiences.
Have you had compulsory medical exams. Please let us know.
Christina
I was older than you, so I was a student in french university in the last 60's and beguinning of 70's and there was still mandatory physicals each year in a university medical center.
For the fact thay you could have more than one physical by year because you could have the pre-participation sport physical performed by the school doctor and other medical examination if a mother "hypochondriac" decided to send a male boy or teenager to see a pediatrician in his office.
I knew also that in France, even if my mother did not ask to the family doctor to do a routine thorough chek up because she knew that you had thorough schools physicals each year, so it was only when I was sick or had some diseases that I went to a doctor office.
But we could have a year school physical and one other physical if we did one sport outside of school in a gym, this other one could be performed by a doctor hired by the gym. The same for summer jobs.
If you were instructed by the nurse only to take off your shirts, shoes and socks, in her outer office, you were lucky because you could keep your trousers, for us, it was immediately undressed until underwear that means a white tighty brief at that time, by group of half a class, around 15 boys.
You said that in her outer office, every one who was there could see you, what do you mean by that, everyone, who could be there?
You were heighted and weighet with your trousers while we were always weigthed just in underwear or even naked when being instructed to remove it and being after completely naked in the exam room.It was also the nurse who did the height and the weight measurements and matched us up with the records.
Normally, we were sent one by one in the exam room, at least in high school, more often by three or four in middle school with the door which was opened, and other boys waiting at the enter of the door and could view the exam of the boys entered before them.
So if you were two in the exam room, you consider that it was a group exam, but I consider myself that there was a group exam as soon as boys had to undress semi-naked in group in a locker room and supervised by one or two adult persons, for us, it was a monitor or a PE teacher or coach.
Our schol doctor, male or female, (we had the two genders possible but mostly women), was always assisted by a female nurse and less often by an other female nurse who could be a student nurse having a training course in the nurse's office of the school.
Of course, in that case, this nurse was young around 20 age, and I don't know what she was thinking of such a job as training course, did she chose herself that school nurse's office, knowing that it was a boy school, was she enjoyed of her job or bored and a little embarrased,I cannot say!
We had quite the same exam as you, with upper body checks, the doctor sounded our chest, we had to lift our legs and feet one by one, the doctor taped with the reflex hammer on feet and on knees,
we were examined from head to toes, we had also to walk until the wall to have a check of our gait, to bend over for the check of the spine, to do some squats on legs and so on.
Of course, the doctor checked also our genitals, and most of the time, especially in high school, he checked the retraction of the foreskin, he or she palpated our testicles one by one like your doctor did, and did the hernia check with instructing to caugh while turning our head. Our doctor did not hesitate to touch the penis to lift it up and saw the skin below it, and to retract our foreskin, not only one time but two or three times if it was not enough easy.
It seemed to me that most of the time, it was like you said the doctor who pulled down the brief if we were still undressed but very often we had been instructed before to remove it as soon as we were entering in the exam room or even just before entering in the locker room when it was our PE teacher who supervised us.
In that case we were in the buff for all the exam, even the eyes test, the ears test, the blood test or the urine test (the nurse gave us a small cup and we went to a small box to pee and the door of the box was not closed so we were exposed by back)
We had also a visual inspection of the anus, never a digital rectal exam (my first was in a pre-induction center for military service).
We were instructed to bend over back to the doctor who was sitting on a stool, the nurse was aside the doctor and could see our buttocks, most of the time, it was the doctor who pushed our buttocks apart to be sure that the cheeks were enough spread, only one year it was the nurse who instructed us to spread our cheeks and checked that it was enough while the doctor was not already sitting behind us.
What I do not understand in the way in which your examination was performed is that you were not so bad treated first since you could keep your trousers but you were exposed after to the view of a boy classmate during the intimate part of the exam which was obviously a bit embarrassing. Why ? it was not to win time that you entered two by two in the exam room because if it was the purpose, it would have been more efficient to instruct you to undress till underwear immediately.
Also you have not said when you were instructed to remove your trousers, because if you had your tighty whities pulled down, it means that you were no more wearing your trousers.
If I understand you, the first boy who was examined stayed in the exam room until the examination of his classmate was finished, so if you were in display of one classmate, you were sure that it was the same for him toward you after.
during the exam of the second boy, how was dressed the first one, in trousers or just in briefs?
You talked of the school exams of your cousins in the next town over.
How did you know how their physicals were performed, is it them who have related their exams to you ?, or is it your mom who knew that by relation of her doctor and had told you how it was? or by talks in family between mothers about physicals of boys at schools?
Were they older or younger than you?
At least, they were alone in the examination room and it was them who dropped their pants rather than the doctor who pulled them down
What was the most embarrassing, to be examined two by two or to examined in front of a nurse? did you discussed of that with them? What did they prefer?
Anyway,their physicals in high school with the presence of a female nurse who watched all the exam were rather like mine.
We had also a full time nurse working in school and during the exam, she did some tests like eyes, blood, urine, and then she took notes because it was her who managed the paper works.
So we could see her very often as it was for your cousins, she was often in the yard of the school when she had no job in her office and she could see us during a PE lesson or when we arrived at school and in the corridor between two lessons. We had to say hello to her each time "
As regards who decided who could be present in the exam room.
I believe that in France it was a regulation of the school for the presence of the nurse, and for other persons such a Pe teacher, it was either the doctor, either the nurse, I think that the nurse had the real power because she was always in the school.
It would be the same for the instruction to remove our trousers in the locker room or worst to remove our bried at entering in the exam room.
Of course, if the doctor did not agree with this, if he thought that it was useless that we were naked for all the exam, he could have told her that he did not want us to be naked or complained to the school authorities but I thought he did not mind about that as the modesty of male students was not at all an issue at that time for adult persons.
When you said that it was the doctor who decided who could be in the room observing the physicals, you think only to a nurse or other persons possibly?
For our obedience, you are right to say that we were more naive than today and used to obey orders of adults, and very deferential to authorities, that of a doctor, of a nurse if she was middle age of course, not a too young one, of a vice-principal (it happens two times that the vice-principal came in the locker room and after in the exam romm to check if all was right for the doctor, we were embarrassed but we did not think that he had not the right to come, our monitor instructed us to keep quiet in the locker room and it was all), of a PE teacher ..
It was useless to complain to parents, my mother was very modest for herself but did not mind about a school physical. It was mandatory, so I had to report to the school doctor, no matter if a nurse was present, no matter how I was undressed, the most important was that I was clean, so a shower or a bath on the morning and a clean brief which was better for me in the locker room.
When I came back home,she always asked me how it was performed and what the doctor or nurse had said!
My father would have laughed if I had complained to be semi-naked or naked for a school physical, I remember that he told me often when I was reluctant to change in front of him " you will be completely naked when you will have 18 age and had a physical in front of a draft board commission composed of a dozen men, civil persons and officers and doctors, you will be in the buff lining up in a large room with a group of more than 30 boys, and all of the members of the draft commission will inspect you from head to toes, face and back, they will make comments about your bare ass if they find it rounded and nice, so it is time to grown up before the draft physical, the draft physical will be useful for you to help you to be less shy and modest"
And his reaction would have been that of your father : if the nurse or the doctor or the PE teacher tells you to do something, suck it up and do what they tell you !
It is a long comment, I hope that you read it and that it is not too much boring! !