Difficulty using double balloon nozzle

Hi all,

Does anyone else have the following problem?

I find that if I use a balloon nozzle, I actually find it harder to retain the enema than if I just use a regular nozzle. If I inflate the balloon less, the fluid just leaks out. It seems that the balloon in the rectum gives the urge to go, making it harder to hold it in.

Anyone else with this problem or am I doing something wrong?

I use the 500cc balloon.

Thanks.

Rectums try to push stuff OUT! I don’t use a balloon in the rectum anymore. I haven’t for decades. It ALWAYS goes up past the first turn in the colon. I use a kid’s punch ball as my balloon. It goes around the colon tube, so you have a long tube with a balloon to seal the liquid in. The balloon gets pushed up 4 to 6 inches past the end of the rectum. It lies slightly to the left side, right above the top of the pubic hair, in the girl's intestine. I inflate it to 30 to 40 inches on my blood pressure gauge. It’s really comfortable for girls. Tried it myself, and even I could tolerate it, and I hate enemas and big anal stuff. The balloon seals PERFECTLY. Plus, it’s comfortable. Plus, it’s cheap! (4 for 99 cents) Plus, it goes at the end of a 5 foot colon tube. Trust me, I’m almost always working with beginner enema girls. So, I have to make a soothing, relaxing enema session, or else they are going to say “Screw this”, and pull it out and get mad and leave. I know what is comfortable and what is NOT. And, those damn yellow double balloon rectal catheters in your rectum are NOT! I haven't even owned one for 20 years now! They suck!

Mplaser.....I experienced the same thing when I first started using a balloon nozzle. Like Dr E said, your rectum tries to push thing OUT! I kept on working with it, and now I can use it fairly comfortably, but it does give me the urge to go and makes it harder to hold if I have it pumped up too much. You are not alone. I guess some people just have a harder time with them than others!! ???

Like everyone above, my double balloon rectal catheter is problematic for me. I have a Reusch double 500c model, which is a good quality unit. I pump up the balloons with 3-4 squeezes of the bulb, and don't have a fullness problem. However, I do have a leakage problem if I don't clench tight. If I were to let the pressure natually build after 1+ quarts of water, they're be seepage of water, no matter if I pump the bulbs 2-3x, or 5-6x. Are double balloon rectal catheters supposed to be water tight, or just aid in water retention?

Thanks for all your responses. If I inflate the bulbs with 5 squeezes of the pump, the water stays in but the urge is too much. How much can you inflate the balloon without causing damage?

I'm not convinced that there is a solution to the leakage problem. I believe that when a person is holding several quarts of water, the force behind that water (especially 4 quarts) is much greater than anything I can put in my ass and if the urge is great enough and that water is determined to come out, then it is going to one way or another, even it that means it forces the entire 750cc inflated balloon out with it or not!! Just my opinion, means nothing!

DrE, I was so excited as I read your description of your "system", and your comments regarding how comfortable it makes the receiver feel. I use one of those thick rubber inflatible enema nozzles available on the internet, but it really makes the receiver uncomfortable. I would like to try your "punch ball" balloon myself, but I don't really understand how its done.

For example, do you wrap the balloon around the tube/nozzle and then insert it into the rectum? How do you navigate it out of the rectum and into the intestine? When do you inflate it? How do you inflate it? So many questions...hope they don't put you off...just looking for directions. Thanks. ???

Barring the squirting of cement into ones rectum 😮 (not recommended), I'm not sure there is any device that can guarantee 100% retention.

Klystra 750 and 500 cc. double balloon rectal catheter are both employed here and find them to be very effective. Usually pump the internal balloon 6-8 times and the external aprox. half as many times.

Normally experience only a few drops of leakage during the strongest of cramps using this setup.

It has been mentioned before that when using a nozzle with pleated balloons if you don't inflate them until the pleats are fully expanded the pleats create channels which allow a convenient exit route for the fluid. Just inflate while holding in your hand to see how many pumps it takes to accomplish this.

Not sure exactly what nozzle you are using and everyones anatomy is a bit different so hard to say just what is the solution is. 500 cc a rather large balloon so it may take you some practice for your bowels to become comfortable with its use.

OK, get punch balls. Pack of 4 for 99 cents. Go to surgical supply, and get some blood pressure tubing, an inflation bulb, with valves, and a dial type blood pressure gauge. Turn the balloon inside out. Poke a TINY hole near the bottom, in the pleated area. Thread the BP tubing into the balloon, and poke it through the hole. Now, wrap the balloon around the tubing and secure it with a tiny little rubber band. Put an metal INSERT into the BP tube, so the pressure of the band doesn’t collapse it. Now, turn the balloon back the normal way (right side out). Now, put your BP inflator in the tube, and pump up your balloon. It should hold the air, leak free. (squeeze the open end of the balloon shut) OK, now you have a working balloon.

So, let’s put it on a colon tube! Get alcohol spray ( I do injections pretty much, so I have a spray bottle with rubbing alcohol) First, cut the tip of the balloon out, but make it small! Just cut the very tip of the balloon off! Now the balloon is open at both ends! Spray the alcohol and force the colon tube in the big end, and out the small end! Use plenty of alcohol to make it slippery! Pull the tube through, until you have like 5 feet of tubing. I can get all of that up inside a new girl, so should YOU! I posted how, on another page! Check it out! OK, now you have 5 feet of tube, and then the balloon. Now, the top of the balloon is tight, and won’t leak air, so you’re fine at that end. The bottom end is pretty loose, so wrap it with a rubber band. Not too hard. You don’t wanna collapse the latex colon tube! Make your balloon SHORT and FAT, not long and thin. Honestly, I turn it inside out, but without a video to show you, you’d never begin to understand what I’m doing. I lay awake all night and dream up this stuff! Plus, I’m skilled with my hands too. For now, you have a colon tube with a simple balloon five feet up.

OK, now you’re ready for use. Lube up the girl, and get her hot. Spend an hour or two. Insert the tube into her. Read my other post to see how to get all five feet inside. When the balloon is near her rectum, suck all the air out, and clamp it off. Lube it up good, super-slippery with plenty of jelly. Push it in her, plus another 4 to 5 inches. Now, it’s in her side, above her pubic hair, past the first rectal turn. Pump it up to 30, at first, on the BP gauge. Use a T fitting to plumb in the BP gauge. Now, tug on the tubing gently. It won’t come out, because the balloon is inflated, and it won’t slip past the rectal turn. That’s it! Fill her up! The liquid won’t seep past the balloon. She’ll feel it a little, but nothing at all like that stupid latex trash inside her rectum. If you push on her abdomen, you can feel the balloon snug inside of her, just above her pubic hair.

I started this 20 years ago. Now, I inflate my balloon with warm water, because it’s so much more comfortable for her. I have electronic low-pressure switches and limiting gauges for the pressure. I have flow-meters. I have electric pumps. You people would absolutely not believe what I have thought up! But, remember, I’m 41 now, and I’ve been doing this almost everyday of my life since I was like 8. Plus, I have a lot of engineering skills! I don’t even use bags much any more. Sometimes, in motels! I have flow control devices and electric pumps with automatic pressure cutoffs. See the thing is, I’m usually working with a new girl that probably never did enemas before. So, I have to MAKE it good for her! That means few or no cramps. No severe pressure. Beginners will ABSOLUTELY not put up with enema pain. Trust me here! You have to make it HOT, and discomfort-free for a new girl. And, that’s the whole purpose of all this equipment.

My inflation device runs down the center of my latex tube, so instead of a BP line on the outside, I have it on the inside now. Plus, I have a vibrator, for those hard-to-maneuver girls. I punch the switch and feel her belly, and instantly, I can feel the tip of the colon tube. I used to have a camera in the end, but, then I have to fuck with video monitors, and that’s a hassle in motels. Plus, camera stuff don’t fit in my big cardboard box of equipment that I keep in the car. But they’re not too hard to make. Supercircuits has the cameras that you need. It fun to see the inside of the girl sometimes, in living color! When I was a kid, I had a colonoscope. That’s how I started. They were like 12k then. Now, they are over 40k. That’s like buying a car! I doubt most people will spend that for their hobby. You can buy a used scope for $1000 on the internet. They have a few broken fibers, but they still give you a good image. I don’t recommend it though. You can hurt the girl, if you don’t understand how to use it.

Back when I got mine, I got the practice colon model to get good. The end of a colonoscope has 4 way articulation. The tip will bend around in any direction, even 180 degrees, so it looks back on itself! You watch a video monitor to advance the tube. You have all kinds of channels for air, or liquid. Gastros do biopsies with them. But, they are really too stiff, that’s’ why I got rid of mine. No beginner would ever put up with that! The hurt! The bottom line is this. You always have to make your enemas pleasurable for the receiver. Most girls don’t care about getting cleaned out. They want enema PLEASURE! And, that’s what I give them!

I have used several single and double balloon rectal catheter and yes Í also have the experience that they will cause some discomfort if you pump them hard. And they are not leak free, but they can be nice anyway. I see it more as a extra spice. I think that one can hold as much without it. If a slave is at the receiving end then it's obviously very usefull! 😁

By they way the silicone ones are worth the extra money.

Hi all,

Does anyone else have the following problem?

I find that if I use a balloon nozzle, I actually find it harder to retain the enema than if I just use a regular nozzle. If I inflate the balloon less, the fluid just leaks out. It seems that the balloon in the rectum gives the urge to go, making it harder to hold it in.

Anyone else with this problem or am I doing something wrong?

I use the 500cc balloon.

Thanks.

The reason you have leakage is possibly multifactorial:

1--NOT pumping up the 500cc balloon will absolutely cause you to leak big time. If you don't inflate it enough to fully expand the flutes of the balloon so it forms a nice round ball, the flutes will directly channel water out your anus.

2--Maybe you should have gotten a smaller balloon catheter, but that probably isn't the case. When I use a 500cc balloon, I pump it up about 6 full squeezes in the inflation bulb. You can hold it in your hand and inflate it so you know what it looks like inside you. That should give a nice full, but not painful sensation. DO NOT under inflate it or YOU will leak.

3--It is possible the balloon is riding up your colon and away from the anal ring that it has to seal against. If you are using a single balloon rectal catheter, give a tug on the tube so it pulls against your anus. If you are using a double balloon rectal catheter, it is possible that the two balloons are too far apart (a possible defect), and that makes it harder for the inner and outer balloons to seal against the inner and outer parts of the anus. If that is the case, just tug on the tube so the inner balloon is against the anus.

Patience, persistence, and concentration!

A double balloon is not for everyone. Switchablesusie and SirInge both have good advice.

4-5 pumps is really all you need for the internal balloon and 3-4 for the external balloon. Everyones body is different so some experimenting is in order. The main thing you want to avoid is over pumping and causing the balloon to burst.

You have to let your rectum get used to the size maybe use different size butt plugs to do this or use rectal dilators that you can buy at the beth tyler site

😃I enjoy my double over any other nozzle because it works to be able to hold and not leak. I suggest that you lay on your back and relax, fill slowly, and massage your stomach. just lay still. Once you are filled close the clamp, and take deep breaths when you get the urge to go, or cramp. The urge will pass in 5 to 10 seconds and you will be able to hold it for about 15 min.

I can offer a few suggestions:

1. Warm up the balloon in warm water before inserting it. A cold balloon can cause quite a bit of discomfort.

2. Make sure you get inner balloon all the way in, up to the outer balloon.

3. Wait for a little while to adjust to it before starting the water flow. I usually under inflate it a little at first and then add a couple of pumps to seal it up.

Once you get it sealed don't fight the urge to go try to relax it's not going anywhere and the urge will pass. I sometimes experience several waves of pressure.

I use a 250cc double ballooning nozzle. No leakage here. Use it for retention enemas and larger enemas. Works great!! Love it!

Loctite Stik n Seal Ultra adheres to silicone: prepare by lightly sanding the surface. You can seal leak by making sure you inject a little sealant in the hole and with an layer also around the exterior.

Are there other effective silicone sealants or methods?

Is a balloon leaking, or it the tube leaking around the inflation bulb? If you can find them, small (3" or 4") nylon cable ties (for bundling wire in electronic equipment) work great to keep the bulb attached and not leaking. I've found that the one-way valves will leak a little, too, especially if the have had water in them, and during a long enema session the balloon will very slowly deflate.