Sensual Loss of Bodily Control

Forcing a woman to give up something as basic as bodily control is a huge turn on for me as a dom and for them as a sub. Binding and spanking may be fun, but losing control of your bladder and bowel is way more intrusive. I like to use balloon catheters in the bladder and balloon nozzles in the bum. A particular favorite of mine is to drain the bladder but then refill it using sterile saline. The subs I've done this to tell me it is crazily erotic. Since we all empty only up to 80% of our bladders when we pee, we always have 20% full. To be totally emptied then to be filled to nearly 100% - the contrast they say is great. I then like to masturbate them to the point of orgasm and release the catheter so they can empty while they cum. The pee will come out in huge spurts as their pelvic muscles are spasming from the orgasm.

I agree completely about how much of a turn-on it is for the Dom to force the woman to give up control of basic bodily functions.

I'm going have to be doing some research on catheterization and filling the bladder as you described. It sounds very nice. I do have a question however. When she reached the point of orgasm and you released the catheter, I assume that you simply opened the tube to allow the pee to spurt out. Is that correct? You didn't remove the catheter prior to her orgasm did you?

Zolton,

WOW! Sounds interesting!

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. . . . A particular favorite of mine is to drain the bladder but then refill it using sterile saline. The subs I've done this to tell me it is crazily erotic. Since we all empty only up to 80% of our bladders when we pee, we always have 20% full. To be totally emptied then to be filled to nearly 100% - the contrast they say is great. . . . .

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That is not correct.

You should be able to almost completely empty your bladder. If you leave 20% of urine after urinating, you have urinary retention, and that is NOT NORMAL and requires medical attention.

Urinary retention and incomplete bladder emptying can be caused by an inadequately contractile bladder, urethral sphincter obstruction, or both.

Urinary retention and incomplete emptying can result from a number of causes. In some cases, the flow of urine is blocked, for example, in men with benign prostatic hyperplasia. This causes obstruction. Another form of impaired emptying is nonobstructive, that is, there is no problem with the urethra but the bladder muscle is less able to adequately contract. When the bladder cannot contract properly, some or all of the urine remains in the bladder. If left untreated, this condition can lead to urinary tract infection and damage to the kidneys.

Disregarding the medical condition, which infact should be treated medically, i´d say that controlling your sub´s bodily functions to such an extend is a massive turn on, as well as an inarguable proof of submission from the sub.

The idea of loss of body control functions is very exciting from both a physical, as well as a mental perspective. I've always believed that the most sexual organ in the body is the mind. Having no control of the most basic body functions is very intimate and exciting indeed.

Gents - this has long been a fantasy of mine ... thank you for sharing.

My God this has been my fantasy for a long long time. I want to submit to the full control of a master who denies me my girly toilet privilege. I'll just have to hold it all the time, with a bursting bladder. If I wet my panties, I'll be punished by being forced to drink even more water and hold even longer until I learn to stay dry like a good girl.

I have also fantasized about a master who inserts a catheter into my tiny bladder and fills it up. Then clamp off the catheter. I'm so desperate to pee, but I can't even let a single drop of pee out. No peeing. Period. And bladder so full. I'll be squirming and begging him for mercy, as I am about to explode. But he'll simply tie me up and say: "this is bladder training. If you behave, I may let you pee a little bit."

And this goes on and on. Every now and then, my master will unlock the catheter and let my aching bladder have a tiny bit of relief, but only a few seconds. Then it's shut off and clamped back on. And a tight fitting chastity belt is locked in place too, for security. So even though I have earned a potty break, my bladder is still full.

I find this particular topic of interest because elimination is one of the more base needs within our collected instincts. Taking control over another's elimination is a straight route toward uncovering vulnerabilities. That being said, I think this is something that can be explored in many an erotic fashion.

Telling someone when and where they can go, pushing them to points of desperation or even making them go in rather unconventional ways are all methods for exploiting this vulnerability.

While I also enjoy more invasive play-catheters and enemas-I am also turned on by the idea of having someone shame themselves by going in their clothing on command. Perhaps drop your sub off four blocks from home, have them wet themselves and then leave them to a walk of shame through the neighborhood.

I also find diapers to play well into this control. Wearing and using them goes against everything that society, as well as instincts, tells us is acceptable. It adds considerably to the feelings of no control and helplessness through humiliation. By placing them upon someone and dictating if and when they can be removed, you are taking control of someone else's base functions and requiring that they rely upon you to alleviate their discomfort and restore their dignity.

Good stuff, great for the physical as well as the mental side of playing.

I've been lucky enough to play around with bladder control and it's enjoyable. Giving up your ability to go the bathroom when you please is different from any other Dom/sub control in my opinion. When the bladder gets very full your orgasm feels even stronger and then the relief when you use the bathroom feels almost as good as an orgasm too lol.

I have experienced this from a different angle - being caned severely with full bowels and spectacularly losing control in front of witnesses. It is a humiliation that lives with me in the form of memories of being dressed down, of looking at my filth and having my nose rubbed in it, generating ribald amusement and sexual excitement among spectators.

To Switchable Suzy........ Having experienced bladder retention as defined by medical "common knowledge", I have concluded that urologists don't have a very good grasp of bladder capacity. When I asked my urologist what a typical bladder capacity was, he replied 200 cc. I can tell you that, after a medical procedure, I catheterized 750 cc of urine. When they do ultrasound to measure urine retention, they assume the bladder is an ellipsoid. The median lobe of my prostate impinges on the bladder wall, at the bladder sphincter. so I never completely empty my bladder and never have. Anatomy is highly variable and their "estimates" of urine retention is probably only good to + or - 100%. The same is true of trans rectal ultrasound of the prostate -again, they assume the gland is an ellipsoid. Having said all that, I do agree with you that this particular fetish is potentially dangerous.

To Switchable Suzy........ Having experienced bladder retention as defined by medical "common knowledge", I have concluded that urologists don't have a very good grasp of bladder capacity. When I asked my urologist what a typical bladder capacity was, he replied 200 cc. I can tell you that, after a medical procedure, I catheterized 750 cc of urine. When they do ultrasound to measure urine retention, they assume the bladder is an ellipsoid. The median lobe of my prostate impinges on the bladder wall, at the bladder sphincter. so I never completely empty my bladder and never have. Anatomy is highly variable and their "estimates" of urine retention is probably only good to + or - 100%. The same is true of trans rectal ultrasound of the prostate -again, they assume the gland is an ellipsoid. Having said all that, I do agree with you that this particular fetish is potentially dangerous.

Bladder capacity varies tremendously, but the inability to practically completely empty the bladder is an abnormality for whatever the reason. You can tell very closely what the retained value is simply by using a catheter to drain what remains after voiding.

If you aren't voiding for a period of time, 750 ml, while being a lot, is not anywhere near a record breaking amount. I have seen a few cases where there has been between 1400 and 1500ml drained by an intermittent catheter at one time.

I have flaccid bladder and very tight bladder neck, fully understand the subject, was cathed for over 2 years, just currently went back to self cathing with Dr.s blessing with the understanding if this doesn't not work, he will basically force me to have a suprapubic, I do know I feel different and helpless either way. Currently my bladder is at about 450ml,, but was almost or was 1000ml at the beginning, he told me I was born like this,, also been constipated all my life also

Catheter does not excite me at all but being denied to use the loo till I lose control would realy make me feel humiliated abd turned on

Here's another one of those things that can have effects lasting long after the amusement.

Stretching the bladder, especially in older people, leads to distention and higher retention. And higher retained urine leads to infections and near incontinence. I suggest you just play at the edges of discomfort but stop at that point.

Humiliation, accidental wetting, peeing in public are physically benign. Forced retention is a whole other animal.

Wet girl I think that we have to keep you on stool softeners and prunes so you have very little control then keep a close eye on you until you are ready to expel. This is just the right moment for a prolonged over the lap hand spanking session while you squirm and beg to go to the toilet.

This sounds amazing

Thinking about bladder emptying, now ive obviously been unable to measure the percentage, but i know i can go and pee till no more comes out, but if i then decide to poop, when its all come out, i can then pee a lot more, applies to women too as same happens to my partner, id originally thought it was just me !

They say timing is everything...having a woman cathed and restrained so that her personal needs are out of her control...indeed I have found that with a full bladder, timing her arousal so that her climax is just as you open her catheter, her pee spurts in relation to her contractions. With a finger in her rectum as she cums, I can feel her contractions and watch her pee spurt out the end of the catheter....having her know I can control her this way if quite humbling for her

I've never lost control but this sounds so incredibly erotic....

I also find this extremely erotic. Making a woman shake and tremble and spasm in pleasure is an amazing thing. Having her grunt and groan and scream unintelligibly because she can't think enough to find words is incredible! The only thing more intimate would be for her to be experiencing so much pleasure, that she can't even control her bladder and/or bowels. Think about it, every second of the day since you were 2-3 yrs old you have to control those muscles. To be taken sensually to the point where you can't even do that is just sooo sexy! The only other bodily function more innate would be breathing and while it's not really my thing, others play with that as well, so I can see the appeal.

Just giving an enema is also a sensual bodily control thing; the Dom forcing his sub to undergo a procedure where the outcome is her not being able to control her most intimate, embarrassing bodily function. I've also played around a bit with a sub having to ask permission before she could 'go,' sometimes making her hold her pee for a while, or forcing an 'accident.' There'd definitely something very erotic about one person making bodily decisions for another.

I would love to experience something like this, especially in front of Daddy's friends.

I already don,t have much control of urine none at night due to being a diabetic.

As i cath myself sometimes, i´d like to try to give the bladder control ( cath open / cath closed) to someone else. anyone interested in controlling me?