Lubing the tube--BenGay, IcyHot, Menthol, Capsaicin

Has anyone ever used Ben Gay as a lube for a punishment enema?

I have, and given the enema with warm milk and molasses. Very powerfull!! Cramps last for a hour or longer! Given as a punishment enema, the bad boy or girl will long remember.

I think this applies to just about anything that you do on this site that is relatively invasive - and if you are a Dom - it should just be part of the Code.

I never subject anyone to anything that I have not tried on myself first. In this instance, I have used menthol based lubricants and they are very stimulating - but never Ben Gay.

Not ben gay but Vicks Vapor rub ( for colds) smeared on the butt hole and on the nozzle. Your patients will leap for joy in pain.

I heard that you could use toothpaste as a lube any input with this? I have not tried this.. im old fashioned really..

Hi n1kk1

Toothpaste as a lube - I don't think so.

By reference just to the intended usage of toothpaste it's a bit obvious that it's abrasive - surely the opposite to what you're trying to achieve.

However I've many times used the merest smear of toothpaste on the end of the penis before uncovered sex or, if covered, a smear inside and outside the condom teat.

Only a trace however - which will warm the sexual organs in a quite unique way. It has usually the same constituent of so called warming creams which cost a fortune in the sex shops or online - namely menthol.

In the quantity recommended - a tiny smear - the results will be very pleasing and of course virtually at no cost.

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Most of said warming creams are menthol based. Toothpaste commonly contains menthol.

Of the creams that do we have:

Carmex,

Vicks,

Tiger Balm,

Ben Gay,

Icey Hot,

Deep Freeze (UK),

Others I'm sure,

All of which are better lubes than toothpaste, which is, again, not a lube....

How long would it take to stop burning?

^^^^ Sometimes a long long time!

Watch out for the "warming" ingredients.

Be careful with things like BenGay and Capacin.

Keep Capacin FAR AWAY from your balls. You might think it has a nice warming sensation, but in larger amounts it is horrible. I did that to my husband out of ignorance, once many years ago in an S&M scene and the pain got so severe he literally cried and then a few days later, the skin turned dark brown and peeled off. It was a very ugly site and was very sensitive and painful for almost two weeks.

I would say using Ben Gay or any other medication (that is clearly marked "FOR EXTERNAL USE ONLY") is probably not a great idea. You probably won't die from it but it could cause significant tissue damage as well as possible short and long term digestive problems. What I would suggest is some holistic alternatives such as ginger root (you can make a nozzle out of this by drilling a hole in a good size fresh ginger root and running the tube up the middle. Ginger root is used for "figging" in the bondage community and gives a pretty good sting. Another alternative to be used (but carefully) is wasabe as a lubricant.

I would never use toothpaste as a lubricant. It's not sterile and contains chemicals and an abrasive powder.

I know for a fact that these practices are done in the name of BDSM all the time. If one looks at the risks and decides they are within acceptable limits, then it is their decision. Your safe sane and consensual may not be the same as mine. There is way too much holier than thou attitude on these boards.

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Toothpaste is used a lot by some people, just about everybody in S&M has used it at one time or another rectally. It has kind of a mildly cooling slight burn. No big deal.

Vaginally it can be torture. I knew somebody in college who went into the bathroom one night to inset her diaphragm without turning on the light, and accidentally put toothpaste in her diaphragm instead of Ortho-Gynol. Being a little wild and crazy and having peppermint on her breath from just brushing and flossing, she didn't notice the added smell of mint when the tube was being squeezed into the diaphragm.

That was cute Susie. But I am curious, was it effective as a spermicide or is this the story she tells her kids when they ask where they came from? 😁

By the time she got back into bed and under the covers, it was already starting to burn and she took it out and douched.

Bengay is a very very tough idea

Toothpaste sounds aweful. I don't even like those "tingle" lubes with methonol in them.

I have been using vicks vapor rub as a lubricant for long tube insertion, with my legs strapped up to the closet hanger rail, just this part of my punishment gets me very excited, way before I release the clamp to take the big bag, I also rub vicks on my testicles, and around the tip of my penis, so I know that I am really being punished, and I must be a good boy, and take it all before the plug is inserted for about an hour.

I need to be educated a little more regarding warm milk & molassis enemas, Why does this cause more, and longer cramps? I'm ready to try this, is it a 50/50 mixture, and do I take the whole bag?

To Dr Gene and anyone else...Anything used up the butt does not have to be sterile...Poop is not sterile and the butthole, and inside is not a steril orifice..The Penis however is another story. The inside of the Penus and into the bladder IS STERILE.

PEE is Sterile and Clean. Even though it is waste, is is filtered so much and is actually sterile. So...where you will want

to make sure that anything you slide up your penis [or ladies urethra] is completely sterile, Enema Nozzles, Cremes,

lubricants, etc do not have to be sterile. The Vagina is NOT sterile...yet the possible introduction of bacteria from the

Vagina can be a cause of infection for the Urethra and the Bladder.

On the other topic of Irritating cremes for lubes, Topical lotions like Ben Gay, Icy-Hot, and similar preparations

are VERY nasty....akin to ROCKET FUEL....ever have a nasty case of Jock itch..you know that nasty fungus ...burning

and itching down there...and spray it or put creme fungicide like Desinex on it...for a good 10 mins your are about to take off

like a rocket from the pain. I made the mistake once of sitting down to take a dump, after applying Ben Gay to aching Arms and shoulder after High School Football practice...Not realizing it, I still had some on my hand and fingers which inadvertantly got on my butt cheeks and hole after I wiped/cleaned myself....Oh...better yet.. how about the old trick of putting it in other players jock straps? that should tell you just how nasty it is.

I have been a DOM for a long time and RULE 1....you do not do to anyone else...what you could not do or have done to yourself. So...If you would not want a Dom to put BenGay up your poop shute...dont do it to anybody else. Before you do something to a Sub, make sure you know what it is going to feel like.

Vicks is fine...as it is not nearly as potent as Ben Gay or Icy Hot. it has plenty of sting without being overly unpleasant.

the same with Ginger root and other related items...and this brings us to RULE 2....Always try a SMALL dab of something on a person...just to make sure that three is no allergy or over sensitivity of some ingredient of anything you use on someone. What might be mild to YOU might be absolute torture to your Mate.

I used toothpaste as lube once (vaginally) because it seemed like a good idea at the time. I have used Olbas oil on myself and that burns like hell, toothpaste is nowhere near as strong. The person I was with however was not terribly happy about it coming into contact with their own genitals and said the effects lasted about 2 days. Our mutual friends considered this incident hilarious and I became known as "Toothpaste Boy" for quite some time.

On a similar note try to avoid any shampoo or shower gel containing tea tree oil coming into contact with intimate areas (unless that's what you're going for). It feels like your arsehole has been replaced with a Polo mint for the rest of the day.

Man Ben Gay has never been helpful for me. I would think that wou.d definitely be painful

I would not use toothpaste as a lube. There a lots of water based lubes and they are not expensive.

I am sure a lot of these products have "external use only " written on them

KY now makes,"tingling gel", products for just this type of application. Water soluble and absolutely safe to use everywhere.(internally-but don't eat a bunch of it, lol)

There was this guy called Chubbyemu on YouTube who often covered medical mishaps and Bengay (methyl salicylate) can be fatal if it absorbs through thin skin, and your rectum has blood vessels that'd very quickly carry it into the blood-stream.

‘’There was this guy called Chubbyemu on YouTube who often covered medical mishaps and Bengay (methyl salicylate) can be fatal if it absorbs through thin skin, and your rectum has blood vessels that'd very quickly carry it into the blood-stream ‘’.

Very interesting, l can see it absorbing much more in the rectum, but l'm sure lots absorbs anywhere else on the epidermis where it is intended to be used.