A tale of two women

Some time ago, a new female member to this group asked why the stories about females always involved some sort of humiliation. I have found 4 words that describe the situation I am about to outline. They are: submit, reluctant, embarrassed and humiliated. For me, they are the essence of what makes the stories exciting. Lets take my examples. There are 2 women, both 35, average height and weight, with, we will say 36c breasts. The first is going to the doctor because she found a lump in her breast and needs to check for ovarian cancer. The second has just gone to a job interview and now needs to do a preemployment physical exam. In the first case, there is not the slightest degree of excitement for me.There is no submitting to anything, no reluctance, no embarrassement and no humiliation. She wants to be examined as a matter of life and death. Now the same examination can take place for the second women. Only for her, all those things apply. She doesnt want to be there. Same procedure and could even be the same place. But the difference is between night and day. I cant think of any other example, from my point of view, that illustrates where the excitement level is on this site. I want to be clear. This has nothing to do with degradation of any person, but of the state of mind of a female that can create the excitement. Wonder how other people feel about this?

Arnie 12

Humiliating a person, male or female, is degredation no matter how you wrap it up or in what context you place it.

There is a similar word - humility - it means: 'the state of being humble, modesty, a sense of unworthiness, self-abasement'.

I would respectfully suggest arnie12, a little humility is better than a lot of humiliation especially in regard to the fair sex

Thank you for your response. In connection with my "real" life, even the highest pedestal in the world cannot fully appreciate the beauty of the female sex. So great is it. But in the context of the stories, the pedestal seems non existant.It seems that being a female is no easy task. On the one hand, the admiration is extreme, and on the other, it is extreme in the other direction. No one ever said being human is easy.

Arnie12 you have a good point, but I do not totally agree with you. In your "Tale of two women", the woman that has to go to the doctor because she has found a lump on her breast, finds the exam humiliating as well. Most women are raised to be modest, and having to expose your breast to a stranger of the opposite sex, is not always the piece of cake that guys think it is. Dependending on the doctor, your sometimes treated like a piece of meat, or just another silly woman who thinks she has a problem. The exam is a double dread for some women, the humiliation of being exposed, and the fear that the lump may be cancerous. I have read posts on this forum from men who expressed the same feeling of humiliation by having to expose their genitals to a female physician or nurse. Some men fear the embarrassment of getting an erection, others fear there might be humiliation about their size. I am not criticizing you Arnie12, just letting you know there are two sides to the story. There are some of us though that find the exam embarrassing, but at the same time exciting.. I enjoyed reading your "Tale of two women", and I appreciate your post.

First, I always appreciate your posts. Second, if I had a chance to write my post again, I would take out the word humiliation. Because that is not what I meant. And I didn't want it to be the theme of my post. Because it wasnt meant to be.

Arnie12, BigK and Kimberly..they were all great post and I think your meaning will be understood by all.