Embarrassment vs. Humiliation

They are quite different, although many enjoy both. I prefer embarassment as it always leaves for space for imagination.

to have a thorogh exam in group with others (which would love to do!) would for me be humiliating

You've obviously never had the joy of an armed forces physical exam. 😄

You are lucky to have that experience.I am still trying to find that situation.

Help!

I am researching this exact area of fetish. A new friend of mine is turned on by humiliation. I really want to make our moments enjoyable by complying, but I have absolutely no background in bedroom humiliation. There was enough trust and attraction for my friend to be candid and I want to return that same level of respect. Does anyone have any experience or advice on how to go about this delicate situation?

For me being sub and liking to be disciplined I like both I believe they go hand in hand with discipline depending on what and why your being disciplined

Very interesting topic, for me the embarrassment and humiliating feelings are very very important during a play exam. I know that they are different as many of you said in the previous posts, for me the embarrassing feeling is more soft and usually is what I feel at the beginning of the exam, when the Doctor requires to be naked etc. But then when the Doctor exam my genitals and the rectum in several positions, very thoroughly and make comments as well I feel humiliated and this is a huge turn on for me. But I'm a submissive guy that like strict and severe Doctors, so I understand that there are other points of view and different patients, at the end of the day we are all different and unique.

When I was in my early 20's I had Bengali GF, she and I were both into medfet and loved to examine each other. We also talked about how our medfetishes came out and our feelings about it. I described the delicious mixture of embarrassment at stripping down to my briefs to my humiliation at being nude for an exam and having to expose my genitalia to some strange while my also naked brother and mother watched. She said she had a similar exam except that she was gowned. She described her feelings with a Bengali word called ‘lajja’ (for any native Bengali speakers I might butcher this and I apologize in advance) which means shame and modesty ,sort of a combination of the two concepts. I thought that described my experiences well, I felt ashamed at being in just my briefs (or completely naked in one case) in front of some strange nurse,my mother ,brother and the doctor. The shame came from a complete loss of modesty, we had no screens or private changing rooms it was ‘strip down to your underpants’. This idea of ‘lajja’ seems to describe my medfet to a tee.

Embarrassment should trump humiliation in medfet play. Just my opinion.

Embarrassment should trump humiliation in medfet play. Just my opinion.

@Rigel GOOD OPINION. Personally speaking , embarassment is virtually a given for me in any kink play. There is often that tell-tale blush seen on me. I am ok with some embarassment. What I am NOT OK with is humiliation either in real life or in kink life. I value myself as a person and a human being. Expect that my interactions with you will be avoided in the future if you choose to humiliate me or deliberately put me down. I may be submissive but I value who I am and putting me down or berating me in any way is an instant turn off - Good Riddance to you!

While I agree with an earlier comment about domination and humiliation going hand in hand, I take a slightly different position that I definitely want this to happen in front of others, particularly folks I work with. I know it's a familiar story, but as the boss in my unit, I'm usually the one that issues 'commands' to my staff. The idea of having that power stripped away from me, particularly in a sexual environment, is a real turn-on for me. I think I'm most attracted by the fact that my staff (mainly women, as it turns out) would get to learn how much I really crave being the one who has to respond to the needs and desires of someone else.

I think this is a hard subject to define.When in my 50's started having wetting problems my wife and I discussed it she was insistent no wet sheets so back in diapers.I just divide the two terms both hit me also have autism.There is no funny business.

You've obviously never had the joy of an armed forces physical exam. Oh yes I have .. I actually had to take a class on how to properly brush my teeth. Oh boy

I agree to a great extent with the OP. To me, embarrassment is a passing feeling. Though it can be intense, it doesn't do any damage to the person. Humiliation is when one is degraded or made to feel badly about themself. It does damage to the person. Shame is when one does something that goes against their own values or beliefs.

But sometimes we take on a feeling we shouldn't. I've felt shame, when I should only have felt embarrassed...very embarrassed, but embarrassed.

There's nothing medically which should cause humiliation. If it does, either the other party has handled it wrong, or the subject is processing it wrong.

That's my view on it.

Doesn't humiliation involve some kind of conscious sadistic action?

The naked shower scene in Magdalen's Sisters is humiliation because it's for the enjoyment of the nuns, and it's unnecessary for hygiene. Just having the inmates shower together naked would maybe be embarrassing for them, but not humiliating.

Big difference.

I adore embarrassment, it’s such a big part of my sexuality. It’s occurs between me and someone I trust.

Humiliation is, to me, violent. A former sadistic boyfriend humiliated me by posting extremely private things between us online. Horror. Lawyers, parents, court, gossip, therapy, etc. His eventual punishment will never make up for that humiliation, which I feel to this day.

A former sadistic boyfriend humiliated me by posting extremely private things between us online. Horror.

I'm sorry that happened to you. To be betrayed by a former lover not only is humiliating, but I imagine damages one's ability to trust others.

Do you mind saying what his eventual punishment was?

To me, embarrassment is a temporary (usually) uncomfortable, undesirable feeling which, once it passes, has no long term effects. Embarrassment can be intense and feel like your world is going to end, but it's a passing emotion.

Humiliation is embarrassment in a way which causes permanent harm to the person; often damages their self-esteem and is usually caused by someone else, whereas one can embarrass themselves.

Shame is a feeling experienced when someone does something which goes against their own values and they feel bad about it.

If you were taught masturbation is healthy, but done in private and your mom walks in on you, you'd feel embarrassed.

If you were taught masturbation is evil and a sin and your mom walks in on you, you'd be embarrassed and ashamed.

If your mom told your aunt she walked in on you, and ridiculed your small dick, saying she doesn't know how you will ever satisfy a woman, you'd be humiliated.

Some people use 'humiliation' to mean super-sized embarrassment, but I make a distinction between the two. At least that's what I feel these terms mean.

Obviously they are different feelings but for me very close, I feel embarrassment when I must undress in front of the Doctor or when he measure my rectal temperature for example. I'm feeling humiliated when the Doctor measure my penis and he says that my size is under the male average size or when he performs a cum control for semen extraction and he says that I'm not allowed to cum until he decides that it's necessary. For me embarrassment and humiliation are the foundations of a play exam without them it's not fun and exciting. As you can see this two feeling can change with just a Doctor's word or action so they are very close.

As the OP said - it's an intent issue.

If a doc (or play doc) is intentionally humiliating the patient with things that are not necessary....that's one thing. That doesn't turn me on. I don't need to be insulted, or degraded, or anything like that.

But...being embarrassed by something that's happening to you and the play doc says things like "It's ok, this happens all the time, don't be embarrassed"...that's hot.