Fantasy vs Reality

Hi, I've recently found that I get off on creating fictional characters who find themselves the unfortunate victims of circumstances beyond their control, or preferably, choose to make themselves vulnerable because of some (possibly unrelated) necessity. I sometimes watch porn flicks and sense that a player has been tricked, and is truly terrified of what's happening, or truly hates in the extreme the people who are abusing him/her. Quite honestly, it makes me sick. I've been upset for days by some of the things I've seen in the guise of entertainment. I'm sure many of you have too. I'm not sure to what extent the experience of real, extreme fear is mollified by the knowledge (ours or theirs) that the subject will suffer no real harm.

I suppose all physical abuse is medical, in a manner of speaking. My own taste runs toward erotic entertainment in which the medfet aspect is convincingly realistic (I really hate clowning around) and in which the subject of the examination (person) experiences a whole lot of reluctance and apprehension, and a manageable amount of fear.

Another part of my preamble: It's been expressed on the site that practices which are "unhealthy or dangerous" are not suitable subjects for stories.

In this light, I was surprised (and delighted) to read Suky's thread, "not so nice..", (under general talk) in which the subject of having mad scientists do sadistic things to you was discussed. Also to my delight, this was favorably replied to by a number of ladies.

My question: How do I reconcile this?

Are there clear lines between (1) a story which "claims" to be about a fantasy, (2) a story which "claims" to be about a real occurrence, (3) a story which "claims" to be about a "real" play-doc session, and (4) a story which "claims" to be pure fiction; such that "unhealthy and dangerous" practices would be fine in one cagegory and not another??

Thanks for your help. - T_O

Hi,

I realize this is a really dumb post, and I probably wouldn't reply to it myself.

What I meant to ask was,

Assuming it's unwise and in bad taste to post stories on the site which imply that real doctors OR play doctors might indulge in practices which are unhealthy or unsafe, would it be considered okay to post stories which are obviously in the realm of fantasy, depicting examinations involving (to borrow Suky's expression) having mad scientists do sadistic things to you? - T_O

Tristan_O, there are people on this board from all walks of life, and all different fetishes, you are not going to be able to please all of them. I am sure that if you write a story and post it, that it may appeal to someone on the board. If someone finds the subject matter not to their liking, they just wont read it. Only acception I can think of would be child molestation, or incest, people here take offense to that.

Tristan_O, you have mentioned "unhealthy and dangerous" and I assume you are referring to my last post. I think you may have misunderstood my meaning or maybe I just didn't explain it well enough.( I am good at that) I was referring to real things (procedures or use of some instruments)on yourself or others.It seems on the fantasy side ..about anything your mind can conjure up is ok ..except like Kim mentioned,child molestation or incest.

Yep,agreed with Lucam and Kim, if you can imagine it, go for it, except in cases involving children being taken advantage of. You'll notice that some things are about kids, but often it's kids playing with each other, so I think that's really as far as that one can go. The webmaster laid down some good rules for posting stories a little while back:

"1. Stories must be clearly medical fetish related

2. Story must not describe rape, coercion of minors, abusive situations involving minors, graphic violence, unwilling participants, dangerous sexual acts, depiction of minors being photographed for distribution, suicide or attempted suicide without consequences, or works which the contributor does not have permission to contribute."

That lays it down pretty clearly, and if you've read the library at all, you'll come across so out there stories, a couple of alien abductions, afew mad scientists, so really I think pretty much anything goes as long as it follows the above guidelines.

Thank you all for your very helpful replies.

F-f, I had sent an email inquiring about where I might find rules, but never had the benefit of reading the material you posted. Many thanks. I understand and applaud all the restrictions except "unwilling participants." I'm not objecting, just confused. It seems a little vague - a slippery slope. IMHO I've read stories here which fit that genre. But I understand that the meaning here is arguable.

I understand there may be a big difference between a reluctant participant and an unwilling participant. But it seems I've read stories where people were restrained against their will. (And whenever I'm abducted by space aliens, it's usually against my will.)

Would a story in which an adult mentions to a doctor having been molested as a child be off limits? I suppose it would depend on the descriptions.

I'd be grateful for any further clarification.

Kindest regards, T_O

Yeah, there are some stories that don't exactly fit the limits, but I think you can use your discretion with what to post and what not. As to your idea, I'm really not sure, like you said, it depends alot on how you play it, but I'd run it by the webmaster first. We did have a post going for a little bit that had, I guess I'll phrase it as a questionable relationship with a child, and let me tell you people got up in arms about it (for good reason). Some of the members who have been here for awhile might know what I'm referring to, and I'm not mentioning specifics that way it doesn't start up again, but the general point of my unnecessary story, is to be careful about what stays in your head and what's put on this site.

I once read something somewhere that fear and sexual arousal stimulate neighbouring areas in he brain. I quess some people just really get off on the scariness of it all, the fear of pain and the unknown. A story is just a story after all, like Saw IV is just a movie. A lot of people may enjoy the idea, but not so many the reality. Though after a while some may need even more frigtening experiences to get off as they become accustomed to what was once frightening in the first place. I guess you could get desensitised and end up doing something stupid. Makes me think of guys who start out with a prince albert piercing and end up getting castrated or nullo. They need more and more to get something out of the experience.