Someone without a degree in nursyng or similar tried heavy stuff?

Hi. I would like to know i someone without proper or acurate knowledge of medicine and nursery has tried heavy stuff like scrotum injections or sounds. If someone did, i would like to know where did he get safety information and recomendations.

Is asking for that things in the forum advised? I've been reading lots of recomendations for a lot of procedures and they seem easily understandable and straighforward to carry away without any other knowledge... but i would really like to know if someone has had good/bad experiences when trying something he only learned how to do over the internet.

Thanks!

I read some of these posts with horror. Whilst i accept that people will be catheterised or use urethral sounds, i cant help but be extremely worried that permanent damage will be caused. Certainly with men, the use of sounds concerns me even more as the prostate enlarges over time, and certainly if any damage is done to it using a sound, the 'Patient' in these play games could quite easily bleed to death internally. I would not advocate such practices, and whilst we are all adults and able to make our own decisions, at least if you are having medical play with a REAL doctor or nurse, they would at least understand and know when enough is enough and when to stop. Be very, very careful, reading about something that sounds simple, very rarely is.

Im sorry to sound such a prude, but perhaps reconsider this idea of yours.

There are lots of other safer things that can be equally as pleasureable and not nearly so dangerous.

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I'm with you nnnurse 69. I Would hold off for now, there will be plenty of time later for you to try new exotic things. Maybe see if you can meet up with someone who is a medical doctor or nurse and ask them to teach you, but anything short of that, I don't think I would recommend trying something after just reading about it or watching videos. Along with what nnnurse said, there is also a risk of infection and not done properly, this procedure wouldn't be as pleasurable as you may have perceived it to be.

I agree with you both . I like medical play but nobody is sticking needles ,sounds or anything else in me or BIG ED (nick name)Fun is fun but there is a limit where your actual health is a concern.

Another very important point that I have noticed during my medical fetish real life exams is that MY PATIENT HAD AN EMERGENCY MEDICAL PROBLEM!!

Being the nursing professional that I am, I WOULD NOT DO ANY other procedures. I take my physical exams extremely serious and professional and fun. (For the one who thought I was soliciting SEX in an ad here and my feelings did get hurt and I was MAD AS HELL that WOULD NEVER EVER HAPPEN.)

I can't make anyone go to the emergency room, you are all adults, but if I see any problems during my exam and you want enemas, rectal temps taken, spankings etc.. IT WON'T HAPPEN!

My Patient had hypertension and could have died, or had a stroke, if I had proceeded further. I am so glad and I hope that was a wake-up call to my patient to seek a physician and get on hypertensive medications. I will recheck my patient's blood pressure in the future and if it is stabilized, we shall continue again with our head to tippy toe medical fetish physical exam.

I hope and pray he listens to me for I feel we had a great bond and medical fetish friendship for a lifetime. This is another example of also making sure you have someone VERY KNOWLEDGEABLE Do Any treatments or procedures on you, for SAFETY SAKE! Please take heed!!

I couldn't agree more with the previous posters - I would go a step further. No one in this day and age should be using sounds - these are atavisms from the 18th and 19th centuries - you'd insert and sound and listen for the metal again the stone. As for catheters, again - even under the most sterile aspetic conditions we see high rates of urinary tract infections. Can anyone pull some numbers off the web to either confirm or refute my comment. I've beem using the figure of 60% (in hospital) how far am I off.

DrLaennec (Zipping up his asbestosis suit)

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A more accurate term for "heavy stuff" would be "high risk". One must always keep in mind that every procedure regardless of how simple or mundane, carries some level of risk. It is much more important to know the risks and the required actions in the event of an untoward incident before understanding the procedure itself. By taking professionally administered First Aid courses to the advanced level, along with certification in CPR, you will prepare yourself with valuable knowledge and practicum to deal with an emergency. Personally I would consider that as a minimum prerequisite for any PlayDoc. In addition to gaining the essential background beneficial to your patients, I can attest that you will save at least one life as a result. The rewards far exceed the effort required, so if you have not already done so, your first step should be education and certification with these valuable skills.

The best way to reduce risk is to avoid it in the first place. A severe UTI may lead to permanent injury and scarring resulting in long list of complications that could seriously impact the patient's quality of life. Every procedure in a real medical environment is based on the expectation that the benefit shall exceed the risk. In the case of diagnostic procedures such as a vaginal speculum exam, it may be easily be argued that even during a play exam the possible benefit exceeds the risk. The same may not be said for IV injection or urethral sounding. These types of "heavy stuff" simply carry too much risk to be done for any other reason than real medical intervention. The moment of passion is quickly forgotten if it turns into a life threatening situation. If the risk exceeds the benefit you should not be considering the procedure under any circumstances.

As far as asking a professional for advice, don't expect much. They have a code of conduct to adhere to which will place risk ahead of benefit, and sexual satisfaction would not fall into the professional category of "benefit" regardless of risk.

It's all very well saying don't do it and I know why you are all saying it BUT we all know that if someone really wants to do it - they will do it. I believe in telling people as much as possible so that they can read through it and make their own choices.

I have done scrotal inflations and I learned via the net. I asked other PDs for any practical advice and I followed this http://www.pumphouse.me.uk/How_to_do_a_Scrotal_Infusion.pdf

Make sure you read this though - http://www.ladyanna.co.uk/scrotalcellulitis.htm

Sounding is very straightforward. Basics are wipe the glans with some alcho-wipes or similar, use sterile lube, then lower the previously sterilised and still clean (lubed) sound down the urethra, letting the weight guide you down, never pushing and never prodding. The easiest sounds are dittels, hegars and rosebuds. Van Burens, however, should be shown to you by an experienced practitioner. VBs can do a lot of damage if handled incorrectly. Sounding is safer when the penis is flaccid. An erect penis is full of blood and it is easier to puncture the urethra membrane because it will be less malleable. If there is any resistance at all - stop don't force it.

After sounding drink lots of water so you pee a lot. Urine is sterile and you need a lot of it to flush out any lube residue. It'll also sting, anything from a mild sensation to broken glass. This is because the sounding has pushed down the silica (minuscule hairs) that line the urethral membrane. The flow of the urine will push the silica back into place. This is what causes the, if any, discomfort.

The important thing to consider is hygiene. Understand the difference between sterile and hygienically clean and if you drop anything on the floor, don't blow on it and think "Oh, it'll be alright". Discard it and get a new/clean one.

Ideally you'll go and see an experienced player such as myself who can do it to you and show you what to do but I know that isn't an option for everyone.

Good advice Lady Anna, You mentioned It'll also sting, anything from a mild sensation to broken glass. Possibly you should add that this sensation should last for no more than a few hours and if it persists more than a day or worsens, they should immediately get to a doctor and tell them honestly what they were doing. The sooner they start treatment with antibiotics, the less chance of further complication which may result in permanent damage.

Urethral sounding of a female is considerably different than a male and requires as much if not more attention to sterile procedure. I will always assess a patient first to determine if she has any history of UTI's, any vaginal delivery complications etc, and then perform a pelvic exam during which I will evaluate her urinary continence. If everything is not 100% I will not proceed any further. In over 30 years of play I have NEVER had a patient experience any type of infection or complication whatsoever and I intend to keep it that way. I have never had a patient leave an exam disappointed but I would prefer to take that risk, rather than subject her to possible complications.

The stinging lasts for as long as it takes them to pee. 😁 A couple of long pees and the stinging will stop. Nothing to worry about at all.

Silica? Yikes! You mean CILIA! And to be complete, there are NO cilia withn the urinary tract! Cilia are usually in upper airways... they sorta trap and hasten exit of foreign material.... if you had cilia in your urethra, you'd probably be from another planet.

If I were to be cathed or dilated or examined in ANY fashion, it would happily be under the control and guidance of Kitten.... why? She knows her stuff, is VERY compassionate, knowledgeable and gentle... I'll vouch for her.

I beg to differ, as she stated silica and then parenthetically wrote minuscule hairs, so the prior comment is valid. Frankly, as much "fun" as many people express with doing urethral procedures, and all you who append "Doc" to your names and claim you've done such procedures for decades, it's probably grand luck that you've not caused any urethral or nephrotic complications.

With the large number of "older men" on these boards, and the generated interest, you can bet that prostate problems are there, typically as BPH (benign prostatic hypertrophy). IOW, your prostate is bigger in your 50's than it was in your 20's. That said, if you let someone who is untrained catheterize you, or try sounds, it's very possible to tear tissue and/or get an infection. That's why Coudé catheters are used in many older men. I've "seen" the results in hospitals even from "trained staff" who have little understanding of geriatric male anatomy, and proceed on with chauvinism, which is not what you want in these clinical situations.

Furthermore, most people here don't know the least bit about asceptic procedures, and EVEN in the hospital and nursing homes UTI's and complications are not uncommon. Using alcohol wipes to clean the male glans? Are you out of your mind, that's mucosal tissue at the entrance to the urethra, that'll burn like hell. We use betadine, and copious amounts of it. That's just another example of the ignorance "out here" passed out by alleged pro's. An irritation in the urethra is one thing, but improper procedures resulting in sepsis, pyelonephritis and possible kidney damage is another event entirely.

All this said, give some serious thought to what you play, and with whom you play. I won't even address scrotal inflation, because players into that obviously don't like their balls.

Hey, I was told that the hairs were there by a medical professional and that was the reason for the discomfort when peeing. Oh and 'she' is the cat's mother.

If it isn't okay to use alcotips on the glans why has there never been any problems? So, no it doesn't burn like hell actually. I also use them to wipe down sounds before insertion and again there have never been any problems. I've been doing this for over 3 years and hey...guess what...no problems. There are a number of PDs who are ex nurses and guess what...they use these procedures too.

You may have your way of doing things but it doesn't make you right and us wrong.

Okay, lots of different opinions going on here, but I'd just like to throw out there that no matter what you're doing make sure that you understand how it works and how it's supposed to feel. I'm guessing that mild discomfort is to be expected in this type of situation, but intense pain probably isn't. Take it slow, you don't need to do everything at once, you've got your whole life ahead of you, so don't screw something up now.

As a non-healthcare professional (for now), I've done my fair share of 'heavy stuff'. I own sounds and catheters, and have used both. I'm also a huge fan of needles, also a 'heavy' topic.

I know most people here seem to be of the opinion that you absolutely should not try it, under and circumstance. But I am with Lady Anna on this one - Yes it is dangerous. Yes, there is a risk that something could go seriously wrong. But some activities we do are just inherently risky, and we can choose to accept that risk, so long as we are aware of it before we start, and are prepared to accept the consequences should we cause a problem. And sometimes it is worth the reward - but we have to be responsible about it.

My first piece of advice - find a nurse on this site (there are plenty, and I will not name names, but stick around for a bit and you will quickly learn who is who), and have them walk you through the procedure step by step the first few times. It is invaluable help, as they are aware not only of how to do it properly, but also of the complications that can arise, and can help you to seek help if you need it.

Secondly - be ready to seek help if needed. I don't do ANY play without being near my phone, and being ready to dial 911 if I need to. I've never had to, and never expect to have to, but should that day come, I will do it.

Thirdly - Research, Research, Research. Risk-taking is OKAY, but in order to responsibly take risks, you must understand the risks you are taking. This means that you don't just buy a cath and shove it in your dick. Before you do any of this stuff, even taking your temp rectally, spend some time learning about it. Chances are it will be fun and will get you excited, and teach you things you never imagined. There is plenty of information available on this site, so I won't repeat it, there are hundreds more sites as well. Go to your local university library and read the nursing handbooks, read online proceedure guides, read everything you can. Understand the risks you are taking. If done right, caths and sounds are pretty safe - but even in a professional setting, as Mashie said, the risk is still there, and you have to be prepared and understand it before you play.

Yes, there are risks involved, and in order to play safe and sane, you have to understand them. Don't let your excitement drive you to do things which you are not ready for. Use your head. Spend the time, and the effort to play responsibly, and you will be rewarded with many long years of fun play!

You can do these thing without a degree or any technical training but make sure you have adequate information on what you are doing before you attempt anything.

You should definitely look at some educational materials before trying anything, you can get hold of a number of clinical textbooks cheap on E-bay or amazon. The Royal Marsden Manual of Clinical Nursing Procedures is a good guide source for administration of enemas and catheterization.

You may also be able to find some procedural information online I know that there are a number of sites that have medical textbooks and also examination forms available to download as PDF and these can be very useful, and more discrete than a textbook if you're worried about prying eyes, there are also some instructional videos available to view on Youtube which are fairly good as a visual aid to understanding the procedures.

It is really important that you make sure that both doctor and patient are away of what is going on and the risks associated with what it is that you are doing and if you do not feel confident in your ability then do risk it, read up and familiarise yourself with the instruments you will be using.

Make sure that you are in an environment where you have access to help if something does go wrong and remember that if something seems to be not right or your not sure then stop.

What she is referring to with "silica"should be ciliawhich, in fact are small hair like things. I do not have a clue and have never heard if such exist in the urethra. My anatomy books do not show such a thing.

The basic thing I have always followed in any risky play is to study, learn the risks and determine if, in my mind, the benefits make the risks worth taking. Some things I have done for years fall into the very risky category, but I have had no problems so far. The next time, who knows.

Catheters and sounds have a high potential for creating a uti. I sincerely believe the high rates of such infections found in some hospitals and nursing homes come from adherence to the ritual for "sterile" insertion. The amount of handling and manipulation involved increases the risk of contamination of the field and the implement very quickly. Whereas using the much simpler "clean field" protocol, the amount of handling is much less and most institutions using this approach have very low uti rates. I am to lazy to look up the exact statistics as that is not my job. I am just making a general comment here. I know I almost never infected my clients when I was changing caths a lot as part of my employment with a voluntary health organization.

Speed

I think some of the posts here bring up an important question: how are things from a legal standpoint? What's to prevent some unintentional but horrible accident from getting you sued to oblivion?

I am just appalled by the incorrect information put out by people who claim to be knowledgeable, who are in fact wannabes who have no ability to integrate the unrelated facts they glean from the internet.

BE VERY WARY of what you read on the internet.

Amen Sister!

Listen folks, I can count on one hand who I would actually take real life medical advice from, Susie is one of them. So listen to her and her words of advice. I do.

A karmic bumb for you for once again, trying to keep us all safe.

Mashie

Sounds is something that seems fun,.... but man does it look like it would hurt lol

Honestly, if it hurt, do you really think we'd keep doing it? I can't speak for everyone, but I'm no pain slut and neither is my man. He enjoys sounding as much as I do.

Hermann stands up and says he likes sounding too.

If it hurts, I'd have to think that ya did something wrong. And, that you might get a good nursing manual, used on Ebay, and read up on the subject. Good knowledge is easy to find.

Just my 2 cents! Have a gr8 week!!!

Hermann