Klismaphiliia

Https://grokipedia.com/page/Klismaphilia

Great description of the fetish we all love!

I love this great document ! However, I disagree with classifying klismaphilia as a disease.

I echo the others in thanking @jpfamg for making this available. I have read Dr. Denko's case studies years ago when I was skulking around libraries looking for ANYTHING to read about enemas. This is the best summary I've read. Should be required reading for all Zity enema devotees . LOL @clyso I don't mind them calling it a disease if they give me enemas to cure it.

Klismaphilia is only a disorder (“Other Specified Paraphilic Disorder”) if it interferes with your ability to function productively at home and/or work.

Klismaphilia that doesn’t interfere with ones ability to function effectively is a “Paraphilia”. And Paraphilias are NOT psychiatric disorders.

I know that of which I speak because I treat psychiatric disorders for a living.

Thanks, Iris. I usually hesitate to post anything like this because in every crowd there's someone who wants to find fault. I really appreciate your giving an authoritative response before this got out of hand!

John.

@Iris1858 . Thank you for emphasizing ,based on your experience, what the article and the DSM point out : that klismaphilia is only considered a mental disorder if it interferes with functioning. As you know ,some psychiatric diagnoses have been shown to be partly at the mercy of the observer. For example, ,psychiatrists and allied mental health professionals (such as clinical psychologists) in the UK have traditionally used a different diagnostic manual than the DSM and hence have diagnosed some disorders more or less frequently than those on this side of the pond. Research has also shown that individual clinicians within the same country or area may favor certain diagnoses . A case in point and also the reason I brought this up : about 20 years ago my obsession with the sexual aspect of enemas was causing issues in my relationship with my partner. I agreed to seek help and went to a clinical psychologist. She did not agree that klismaphilia was causing my relationship problems but attributed them to Alcoholism since I was drinking quite heavily at the time. I actually did not find this diagnosis helpful and ceased therapy. So, 20 years later ,I have long since quit drinking but my enema obsession is still alive and sometimes NOT well because It interferes with me doing more productive things, eg. too much time online at Zity,etc. The posted article points out that klismos are rare so perhaps my therapist at the time had never encountered one such as me. ???

@infamg

First of all, thank you very much for the link. It takes a while for a layperson to understand the report and its message. In short: I've always known that something was wrong with me psychologically.

One wonders what triggered this sexual attraction to enemas. The mere sight of all kinds of rubber equipment and related items makes my insides dance. Is that perverse, or what? Then a woman came into my life who dispelled my doubts; two perverse people found each other, and for pleasure, they cleansed each other's bowels.

„The paraphilia's origins may trace to early life experiences, such as enemas administered in a nurturing context, though etiological factors remain understudied“

This paragraph confirmed my suspicion, even though the causes are not yet fully understood. Zity gave me a glimpse into a world that would otherwise remain closed to me. Now I wonder how many of my friends from back then feel the same way.

As I understand it, @Iris1858, one only speaks of an illness when life as a whole is significantly affected.

@Iris1858 Do you think that most of us here would be diagnosed as paraphilia klismos?

We live our lives on the principle of it it isn't fun we don't do it. We are both now happily retired so lots of time for dancing, walking, working in our allotment and garden, travelling to distant places, hobbies (she patchwork, me model railroad) and splendid cuddles. I am the klysmo, she isn't, and I spend up to an hour in the bathroom every morning while my beautiful blonde sleeps. Yes I am addicted to enemas but so what? And everyone I know tells me how well I look. Hey ho!

@Iris1858 Do you think that most of us here would be diagnosed as paraphilia klismos?

Yes, @Neil517, I believe so. Myself included.

@Iris1858 . And now, Dear Iris, someone has to ask : What should our therap(ies) be ?

In some prior threads/discussions, I surmised that "aversion therapy" seemed to be a common aspect in overcumming certain behaviors. It would be a wonderful experiment if Dr. Iris would try this aversion therapy on a few of us to determine if it's possible to change our obsession with enemas. I'd be interested to see just how many enemas it might take. I suspect I'm well beyond 10K over my lifetime!

I'll volunteer as well!!

Btw, sse4fun, I was looking for the story you wrote many years ago about your sister's enemas prior to some tests and how that resulted in you getting one, but couldn't find it. Did you take it down? Think it was titled "Shades of Red"?

@Iris1858 . And now, Dear Iris, someone has to ask : What should our therap(ies) be ?

@ronniewater, I can think of no better “therapy” than a couple or three good enemas!🫨

Thanks again, Iris!

I have to ask if any of you actually read the Danko article. Did you read all of it?

Dr. Danko had a recommendation for the patient.

This was one of the first words I actually learned on the internet. If you remember the stonefox videos, there was enemarotica.com before that, run by that same dude. That's where I learned the vocabulary word, klismaphilia.

Zity is a pretty good place for affirmative support for klismos. Members realize they are not isolated in their fetish and can openly discuss it with like minded people who enjoy them for various reasons it provides a sense that were really not all that wierd or deranged

IMHO the klismos who actually have a disorder are a very small minority here. Most who post have pretty normal lives that simply incorporate enemas. The enemas add to our lives but don’t consume us to a point of being a problem.

BUT! There are always some exceptions! 😀

Its something more people do , but because of the stigma of this kind of injoyment, there are more people outside in the real world, who are klismaphilia .