Differing generational attitudes regarding medfet experiences and enjoyment

Quite some time back on Reddit, I posted a comment comparing medical exam procedures of the past compared to now. I described how the procedures normally went- all clothes completely off, or at least down to your underpants, regardless of age or gender. The dreaded manual prostate exam for males, and a generic rectal exam for both sexes. And then finally, the open group exams for sports or school where you have a dozen or more students or aspiring athletes all standing around in their underwear while a teacher or coach chaperone looks on, anxiously waiting their turn to step behind a flimsy plastic or paper partition or curtain where they know what's going to happen once they get there.

To most folks my age and older, it was simply part of life and not that big a deal. On the other hand, most GenZers and younger Milennials were horrified. The disgust and outrage among that group was palpable. Many of them started talking about abuse, grooming, lawsuits, police, Nazism, fascism, the school staff / administrators burning in hell after they die, and stuff like that. The anger and vitriol displayed by the younger posters was a bit shocking, to be honest. When I added that some of the guys who were part of that process freely admitted to getting a slight kick out of being able to show themselves to a female examiner or chaperone, that's when they got REALLY upset.

Tempi cambi (one of hub’s favorite Italian expressions)

Tempi cambi (one of hub’s favorite Italian expressions)

True that.

My daily drivers are an '07 Tahoe and an '02 F250 diesel, while my hobby vehicles are a '70 Buick and a '67 VW. I also prefer nylon ( plastic ) jackets for wet weather over oiled canvas. I'm also a staunch believer in castle doctrine and stand-your-ground laws. Finally, I still enjoy things like cheerleaders and Hooters restaurants. As you can probably imagine, guys like me ain't too popular with the young, progressive, "green" crowd.

Even though I'm GenX, "boomer" is a popular slur used by young people to describe older, more traditional folks like myself.

I remember vividly the school group physical exams in the 70s, and how we had no choice if we wanted to play intramural or to compete with other teams from other sch"ools from 6th grade on we had to gather in gym after school on a designated day. We were then called into the outer nurses office ten at a time and told to strip to our just our underwear while the school nurse and her "assistant" usually a woman from the front office or a teacher would read off names and write down our height, weight, and blood pressure. The worst part was having your height taken because we were all in white briefs and then told to stand up straight and tall with our back to the wall and you could feel eyes on your groin from the assistant as she noted the numbers. Then we had to line up and wait to be taken into the interior office and there the doctor did a rudimentary physical but never did a rectal or prostate exam, but at the end I was told to lower my underwear for the genital and hernia check and it was usually a male doctor, but the girls parents felt a female doctor would be better for the girls so then we had a female doc in the back room and she would tell me to come forward as she sat on a stool and then she just reached out and whipped my underwear down and I was already semi erect from her touching body parts before the genital exam, and just completely went fully erect. She completed her exam and while she started filling out the forms she said you can wait a couple minutes. It was difficult to hide coming back out of the room and putting my clothes on. I remember asking a teacher in high school why we had to do that and he said it was to prepare us for the draft as we would be going through a much stricter exam at that time. Fortunately the war and draft had ended prior to my graduating in 78.

I remember vividly the school group physical exams in the 70s, and how we had no choice if we wanted to play intramural or to compete with other teams from other sch"ools from 6th grade on we had to gather in gym after school on a designated day. We were then called into the outer nurses office ten at a time and told to strip to our just our underwear while the school nurse and her "assistant" usually a woman from the front office or a teacher would read off names and write down our height, weight, and blood pressure. The worst part was having your height taken because we were all in white briefs and then told to stand up straight and tall with our back to the wall and you could feel eyes on your groin from the assistant as she noted the numbers. Then we had to line up and wait to be taken into the interior office and there the doctor did a rudimentary physical but never did a rectal or prostate exam, but at the end I was told to lower my underwear for the genital and hernia check and it was usually a male doctor, but the girls parents felt a female doctor would be better for the girls so then we had a female doc in the back room and she would tell me to come forward as she sat on a stool and then she just reached out and whipped my underwear down and I was already semi erect from her touching body parts before the genital exam, and just completely went fully erect. She completed her exam and while she started filling out the forms she said you can wait a couple minutes. It was difficult to hide coming back out of the room and putting my clothes on. I remember asking a teacher in high school why we had to do that and he said it was to prepare us for the draft as we would be going through a much stricter exam at that time. Fortunately the war and draft had ended prior to my graduating in 78.

In the future, I suppose this could go one of two ways. Advancing medical technology along with increased concern for patient privacy and dignity could ensure that those old practices remain obsolete, OR the world's increasing involvement in global conflicts could bring them back with a vengeance in the name of efficiency.

That last scenario is really a sad and sobering thought. All those healthy, virile young men being paraded around like prize specimens just before they're shipped overseas to be killed, maimed, or mentally scarred for life. It's beyond fucked up, it really is.

As long as you were not naked in group - no matter in front of whom, even non medical persons , it was nott really humiliating !

we have had in the past some remlations of group exams for sport or at boarding school where the respect of the shyness toward nudity and the privacy of boys was not respected at all, in that time there was no place to complain or protest and it seemed normal to all adults , parents as well as teachers or other figures of authority, it was like if it was considered as normal, things were done like that and that was all !

and of course in the past the draft examinations were the worst for the lack of respect of dignity and privacy for young men but it was also considered as normal since it was the way things had been done since a lot of years !

I grew up in the 70s and 80s, when these kinds of detailed, naked physicals happened - even my school sports physicals required nudity for part. While I understand that younger people who have not experienced this might be surprised, the "grooming" and "abuse" claims are overboard and silly. Not only are they inapplicable, it serves to dilute the concept and does a disservice to people who really were victims of grooming and abuse.

Everyone reacts differently to medical exams and protocols. I’ve seen a lot of changes over the years, all for the better. The majority of exams only involve simple blood tests, and a series of questions. If you’re still getting poked and prodded by the doctor, it might be time to switch physicians. I would suspect that they haven’t kept up with new procedures, and don’t care to.

In a disability school, no abuse, we were examined regularly. The math teacher took our bp regularly.

The majority of exams only involve simple blood tests, and a series of questions. If you’re still getting poked and prodded by the doctor, it might be time to switch physicians. I would suspect that they haven’t kept up with new procedures, and don’t care to.

Hard disagree here. Blood tests and imaging are great and all, but if my doctor isn't actually physically examining me then he's not doing his job. The idea that me taking 2-3 hours out of my day for a "wellness check" that could have been done entirely in a 15 minute FaceTime call is a good thing is insulting, to be completely honest.

I can put a finger to my wrist and check my heart rate

I can step on the scale at the gym

I can get my blood pressure checked at any pharmacy

If that's all they're going to do then they've wasted a significant chunk of my day and there's no reason for me to have the appointment at all, because the only thing that comes out of it is a pile of work that I now have less time to complete.

As long as you were not naked in group - no matter in front of whom, even non medical persons , it was nott really humiliating !

we have had in the past some remlations of group exams for sport or at boarding school where the respect of the shyness toward nudity and the privacy of boys was not respected at all, in that time there was no place to complain or protest and it seemed normal to all adults , parents as well as teachers or other figures of authority, it was like if it was considered as normal, things were done like that and that was all !

and of course in the past the draft examinations were the worst for the lack of respect of dignity and privacy for young men but it was also considered as normal since it was the way things had been done since a lot of years !

On the odd occasions when such a thing actually happened, I can't imagine what it must've been like for a bunch of young guys to have to stand fully naked in front of several female peers and / or authority figures as well as your same gender buddies. It had to be an odd mix of arousing and terrifying, with varying degrees of each.

A wise person once said "be careful what you wish for". I've often wished that I could briefly trade places with one of these lads, just to see what it was like.