Miralax combined with Lactulose-syrup

Hi folks,

As i read several forum threads here, and also a response on some i started myself (https://en.zity.biz/index.php?mx=forum;ox=display;topic=123513;firstnew)

have produced a possibly very good and effective method which is a combination of 2 products (Miralax and Lactulose-syrup) that reinforce/supplement each other, which will ultimately inevitably lead to a bowel movement(complete intestinal emptying?) that cannot be stopped.

Some quotes from other members/threads:

- when it hits you’ll be completely unable to hold it back.

- If one agent causes you to almost lose control, the combination ensures that you don't have to lose control because you absolutely and truly can no longer exercise control?

- The more you try to resist the urge to defecate, the sooner you will have no choice. You will have no choice but to fill your diaper sooner or later.

- Urge not strong enough to force you to poo you diaper? Just wait.

The idea and my goal is to put on a diaper before bed. Then during the night it will wake me up because I get the urge.

Of course staying in bed would mean I lose control and have no choice to empty my bowels in the diaper.

If you have about 6 hours, the Miralax again to soften you poo combined with the full adult dose of either Lactulose or Sobitol. You'll probably get a lot of gas in a couple of hours, followed soon by a very complete, impossible to hold, poo. If the urge isn't strong enough to force the poo out, wait a while The urge usually gets stronger with time.

@Sean

So I want to simulate/insure a nighttime accident.

Would that be possible by using the combination of Miralax and Lactulose syrup once?

If so, what dosage of each product should I use?

Should I take them at the same time or separately with some time in between?

With the dose and intake/use advice you would give, I should expect an evacuation after how much time?

I take Mirilax & 40 ML Lactulose before each meal that provides 6 very soft large movements a day . Normally 30 ML taken before each meal will produce 3 + soft formed stools per day

@SAP

Same question to you, in your opinion and experience, as above to Sean.

Eleutheros

I'm not into diapers (nappies in South Africa), but I can assure anyone who is wanting to have a spectacular yet sweet-smelling 'accident' that bananas will do the trick without need of any laxatives.

Would adding a banana for some extra "bulk" be an option, or would it trigger (to soon) a BM before the Mirilax combined with Lactulose have a change to start "it's magic" ?

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** As an equivalent to Miralax I will use Movicol:

https://www.amazon.com/Movicol-Powder-Sachets-Flavour-Free/dp/B07NKFPQ9H

** I will use a high absorption (night) diaper in combination with a PVC protective slip.

In addition, I will also protect the bed sufficiently if the diaper does leak.

** To strengthen the feeling of surrender and loss of control, I will also use methods that prevent me from getting up from bed easily or quickly when the urge arises.

I wouldn’t mess with adding banana , I have completely blown out destroyed a Megamax with just the two medications and normal diet . You can always add the bananna but not takeaway .

Also if you take the Mirilax in the morning you can wait on lactulose till closer to bed .

Take 50 ML lactulose every 45 minutes till emergent laxation occurs .

I have never thought to combine. Using 3 of the tiny laxitive pills, (dulcolax maybe??) Is enough to make me have to go like crazy for a whole day. But that's just it, I rarely have a whole day to dedicate to diaper play of this intensity. Wearing to work is one thing, but uncontrolable messing is something I personally would only do if I knew I was alone.

I have completely blown out destroyed a Megamax with just the two medications

Also if you take the Mirilax in the morning you can wait on lactulose till closer to bed .

Take 50 ML lactulose every 45 minutes till emergent laxation occurs .

Ok, so what I had in mind is not possible/intended then?

As with all of the sugar alcohols the larger the dose the faster and more dramatic the diaper filling like my dosage is before every meal you could take 150 ML at one time have a huge bowel emptying and maybe a little spotty discharge later.

https://en.zity.biz/index.php?mx=forum;ox=display;msg=1181081;mark=Mirilax

What I thought I understood is that one had to take the Miralax and Lactulose syrup at the same time (at the same time in the sense of clock time).

But I probably misinterpreted that.

The goal is clear of course, ultimately only an uncontrolled bowel emptying sometime during the night, let's say between 2am and 6am.

I don't know how quickly 1 dose of Movicol(if I am correctly informed that is an equivalent of Miralax) at a meal works, of course, so if I start taking it at breakfast I'm a bit afraid that I'll actually have to poop before the evening.

Experimental procedure: ?

- after lunch(1pm) take my first normal dose of Movicol, (if I am correctly informed that is an equivalent of Miralax) (13.8 gram powder=one sachet mixed in 125 ml water)

- after dinner(6pm) take my second normal dose of Movicol, (if I am correctly informed that is an equivalent of Miralax) (13.8 gram powder=one sachet mixed in 125 ml water)

Option a

- At 10pm one single dose of 150 ml Lactulose syrup

Option b

- divide into 3 equal portions and take

1st dose, 50 ml Lactulose syrup at 8pm

2nd dose, 50 ml Lactulose syrup at 9pm

3rd dose, 50ml Lactulose syrup at 10pm

Let's say i go bed and sleep at 10pm.....hoping to get awaken by urges/etc between 2am and 6am. Would that work you think?

Or what would you suggest in a matter on timeframe/amounts and frequency @SAP .

I've had both in hospitals, and they're VERY effective. Obviously dosing matters, and I'm sorry as I can't remember what dose I was on (75ml of lactulose I think? no idea what miralax). I think SAP is right with not adding banana, it's a very effective combo just on its own.

For timing, I always got lactulose syrup in the morning and at night, and would have a BM a few hours after drinking.

I've had both in hospitals, and they're VERY effective.

it's a very effective combo

For timing, I always got lactulose syrup in the morning and at night, and would have a BM a few hours after drinking.

Many thanks for your contribution/sharing!

I think it is quite unique that these two are combined together.

In terms of timing, your information is very valuable to me, now that I read that regarding the Lactulose, a BM will probably take place a few hours after the intake.

I think for a first test it is best to start with:

Take 1 portion Miralax 2 hours after lunch and 1 portion 2 hours after dinner.

And before bedtime, let's say around 10pm, 1 dose of 75ml Lactulose-syrup

The fact that you write in capital letters VERY effectively will certainly have been the case for you then.

Ok, today I started orientating and exploring the product(s).

Since I have no experience with either, it is of course important and wise to see how people react to them, and whether they have any (unwanted) side effects or allergic reactions, etc.

Today (Saturday) I got up normally after a good rest around 9am.

Had a normal BM yesterday morning, and haven't since.

Last afternoon, at 1pm, I had quite a large/heavy lunch (Italian pasta dish)

During the afternoon I felt that my intestines were already a bit fuller, an average full intestine so to speak, but no urge to have a BM yet.

Decided to take 1 portion of Movicol (dissolve 1 sachet/portion of powder in 125ml of water and drink immediately) at 4pm

The (lighter) dinner consisted of a fish dish.

Around 8pm I clearly felt a full intestine, actually as I normally feel if I had a BM in the not too distant future.

So so far everything is basically as I would normally have/expect it without using any products.

Because I have not experienced any side effects/nasty reactions so far, I decided to take a 2nd portion of Movicol at 9pm

So far "the report"

Let's see how the rest of the evening goes and whether I will notice anything from that Movicol in the coming hours....

Then of course the questions now are:

- am I going to have another BM before going to sleep or not?

- if not:

Am I going to take a dose of Lactulose today, before going to sleep, or am I just going to leave it at that for this 1st test and see what effect it has tomorrow?

Or take up the challenge straight away and take some Lactulose before going to sleep.

Then, as I am sometimes quite a "faint person", I could try, for example, 30ml as the 1st and starting dose.

...I'll just wait and see for the next few hours...

Hi Saskia-V,

Reading your first post in this thread, where you state you want to mess in your sleep, I might have an idea that you can try. I also want to mess while asleep and managed to do so a few days ago. I inserted 3 marshmallows up my behind when I was very very tired. When you fall asleep quickly you will not feel the urge to mess and the marshmallows get the chance to do their thing inside and dissolve. I woke up while I was messing and finished the last part when I woke up. Hope this helps you in your quest 🙂.

Spike

Hi Saskia-V,

I inserted 3 marshmallows up my behind when I was very very tired. When you fall asleep quickly you will not feel the urge to mess and the marshmallows get the chance to do their thing inside and dissolve. I woke up while I was messing and finished the last part when I woke up. Hope this helps you in your quest 🙂.

Spike

Hi, thx for the advice/tip.

Although i did try that "marshmallow trick" in the past.

My personal experience:

I only had a little come out and I think it was mostly marshmallows, i could hold back and control the urge(s), after a while the urge subsided.

So i was(am) really looking for a method it would force it's way out. (during overnight/sleep)

"a combination of 2 products (Miralax and Lactulose-syrup) that reinforce/supplement each other, which will ultimately inevitably lead to a bowel movement that cannot be stopped." ...would be the idea.

That day I stuck to 2 portions of Movicol.

Shortly after midnight I went to sleep and noticed that my intestines were quite "full" and decided to take this first test and see what effect the Movicol alone would have, so I did not take that dose of Lactulose before going to sleep.

At 6am I woke up with some intestinal rumblings and small farts escaping. Sometimes a mild cramp, but not really intense/severe.

Apparently fell asleep again because I woke up again at 9am.

I just got up and at 10am I had the urge to poop, but actually just like I normally have/feel in the morning. I kept it up until 11am, where I did get more urgent urges with sometimes a cramp and also noticed a lot of air/bubbling in the intestines.

So I did my business at 11am, the composition was slightly thinner than normal but still solid and a bit lighter in color than normal.

I had no problems or effects at all for the rest of the day.

That was the 1st test/introduction so far...

Now I have to think about how and what steps I can or want to take next time.

Taking into account:

Perhaps I should first be on a Movicol protocol for a few days before I notice a little more effect from that product (such as less solid stools).

Would adding Lactulose before going to sleep be sufficient to activate the 2 doses of Movicol earlier in the day in this case?

I think you have to take into account that a single 50ml dose of lactulose will cause an uncontrollable mess within 2 hours.

Some people told you that you have to stay hydrated and they're right.

That's because lactulose is an hyperosmotic laxative and will call a lot of water into your bowel.

This means that you will mostly poo soup.

Some crazy guy told you to take 150ml that's completely unnecessary, I once took 2 separate 40ml doses (30min one apart from the other) and the effect was slightly more powerful that the single 50ml dose. You dont need 150ml trust me.

Also, as far as i know, movicol and miralax are primarily used as stool softeners meaning that taking higher doses will cause more watery messes. As I told you, lactulose will get you that effect on it's own so it might be useless to overlap two similar medications.

Haven't really had time to post this yet.

I think that Lactulose Syrup could have very good potential for me!!

A brief summary of the experiment:

Drink extra water during the evening to prevent possible dehydration.

So take 50ml at 10:15 pm and mix it in a cup of coffee

immediately followed by another glass of water.

....quite exciting because now there was no way back.

Drink half a glass of water every half hour.

At 11:45 PM I started to feel some light gurgling in the intestines.

half an hour later followed by some mild cramps, including a few farts.

There was a sense of, yes, something is happening and underway.

Then around 1am, just before I wanted to go to sleep:

Without any real cramps, suddenly a clear urge! I felt like everything was going to be impossible to contain, it felt like "watery on it's way"...sometimes you can just feel that

No waiting or taking on the challenge of holding it in, sitting on the toilet...and almost IMMEDIATELY...

1st load, suddenly, on the toilet. Seemed like a really big "discharge" and came out as really watery/diarrhea (seemed like more fluid than feces even)

Then I put on a diaper and went to bed and slept.

Lots of farting, lots of rumbling in the intestines, but no cramps and/or urgency.

Slept reasonably well in the end

Woke up around 8am, still quite a few "farts" no more.

Half an hour later, reasonable urge to relieve myself (but as normal in feeling)

Pooped once, and it was actually regular/solid stool again!

I had no more problems for the rest of the day

SO..... in short and experienced: Without any real preparation, taking 50 ml of Lactulose Syrup gave a one-time "watery discharge" after approximately 2 hours and 45 minutes.

Without feeling sick, feeling bad, and actually not even being active, otherwise I just sat very relaxed on the couch watching TV!

This has made me feel good for (combination) use in the future.

- the fact that I didn't feel sick

- the fact that Lactulose really has an effect on me and makes the stool much softer

This is something that has great potential for my ultimate wish/goal as I stand in it now.