Virginity tests in Sweden

I find this film clip very frightening:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-1U5HuXbgU

A TV-team went undercover in Sweden(!!!) to research whether doctors are willing to perform a virginity examination on a minor (!) without her consent.

Something like this in Europe....

Disturbing that some cultures put such a high demand on virginity as a criterion for marriage. and go to such cruel and devious ways to prove it.

Very interesting, and disturbing video.

Hard to believe this is going on in such a so-called liberal country.

Needless to say there are the usual corrupt politicians and wealthy organizations involved.

So sad that some cultures still promote this archaic and violent abuse of women and young girls.

Make me sad and very angry.

They say Sweden has become super populated with Muslim immigrants. Doctors, like politicians, are for hire. Anything politicized, religious or secular, can be bought and paid for. It is all a scam on the public and ridiculous criminal looting hypocrisy.

Seems like another assault on women - I put it in the same horsestall as FGM. Maybe not as painful or permanent, but emotionally scarring. I think there was a referenced article or a post that described a girl who was stoned to death for not passing such a test in a 3rd world country.

I am really surprised and slightly shocked that such practices are carried out in a country that is, in general, so advanced in human rights.

Money and greed play a part in it, I'm sure, @lzrd .

@Countrydr - At the end of the vid there is a Facebook connection to TV4. The vid was made 7 years ago and I can not find it on the TV4's FB site, though if I did all the translations to hunt it down, my day would be gone. You might try a different browser.

@Rigel, Agreed about the horsestall. And 'honour killings' (murder) are rife in 2nd and 3rd world countries. My mother's g/f lived in Saudi for 7 years and Friday was called "Chop-Chop" days as hand amputation was always carried out in the city (not village) square.

They say Sweden has become super populated with Muslim immigrants.

'They' often say that to advance their own prejudices and agendas - I can think of a former US President who claims that there are no-go areas in Stockholm which are blatantly not true.

I've been a frequent visitor to Sweden for over twenty years and like in any country, people of certain groups, be it race, socioeconomic, or other factors, tend to establish themselves in the same areas.

In respect to this video, it was made seven years ago and it does seem to focus on the doctors who agreed to undertake the examination, without saying how many refused. It's also worth noting that while the actress claims to be under 18, she is over the age of consent which is 15.

In respect to this video, it was made seven years ago and it does seem to focus on the doctors who agreed to undertake the examination, without saying how many refused. It's also worth noting that while the actress claims to be under 18, she is over the age of consent which is 15.

Very good points @tjc .

Has the policy been changed in that time?

I would never have thought that such medical examinations could take place in Sweden. I heard that in Russia girls were subjected to such medical examinations. This happened in tsarist times (students of elite schools), Soviet times (members of youth organizations), and modern times (again, students of a school educating future wives for officers).

I would never have thought that such medical examinations could take place in Sweden. I heard that in Russia girls were subjected to such medical examinations. This happened in tsarist times (students of elite schools), Soviet times (members of youth organizations), and modern times (again, students of a school educating future wives for officers).

An overall medical exam in some of the better German boarding schools before WWII also might have included a virginity test. A confirmation attest might be handed to the parents when the girl returned home after the final year.

I read about this in a detailed biography of Eva Braun, who apparently also received an affirmation that nuns and staff had kept an eagle eye out for her and other students, not allowing them any possibility of engaging in any hanky-panky while in the boarding school's care.

Apparently it was not an uncommon practice to include the results of a positive virginity examination.

Technically, there’s no such thing as a foolproof “virginity” test. The only way to know is to ask…and then assume they are telling the truth. I wonder how many girls failed such a test who hadn’t made their sexual debut?

On a side note, why do some societies put so much emphasis on female virginity versus male virginity? Seems they are ok with male promiscuity and not females. Misogyny at its best (or worst!)

https://www.healthline.com/health/healthy-sex/simple-virginity-test

On a side note, why do some societies put so much emphasis on female virginity versus male virginity? Seems they are ok with male promiscuity and not females.

This is probably because the men were calling the shots and making the rules without any other gender allowed input. Back centuries ago, men, especially heads of families, were really full of themselves to an unbearable degree.

Agracier , men are still calling the shots and controlling us

Agracier , men are still calling the shots and controlling us

I was referring to the very extreme kind of controlling that went on in Old Testament days and Antiquity. That was really gross and over the top what with the stoning and other kinds of punishments and importance placed on virginity and all that.

At least the social theories and legislation regarding gender equality are not as lopsided as they used to be. A long way to go, but I would never talk about the 'good ol' days and get all nostalgic about past gender lopsidedness.

Religious extremist communities that aim at controlling all aspects of the life of kids are big in the Scandinavian countries. In addition these countries have abusive child protective systems that act in a way far more extreme than what you see in this video.

The general opinion among Scandinavians not belonging to such religious groups is that it is bad. But the scandinavian population has been generally brainwashed to think that governmental agencies are in full righ to do such as we see here, and even far beyond too.

But these agencies often use anesthesia to shield the full extent of what they do to kids,

Even though these agencies get an undeserved support for what they do, they know that the full extent of their actions will not get supported, so that simply do it under anesthesia.

Even though these agencies have got huge budgets, their ability have a limit at some point. The way they solve this, is by selecting a certain persentage of kids as objects for their most extensve controle.

They hold regular meetings where school officials and police take part to select the kids, boys and girls, that they find most interesting to have as controlled objects.

An yes, it seems to me that these agencies are heavily parasitized by the mentioned religious groupings.

Those who are selected are typically kids that are not politically correct in some way or another, but without being mentally handicapped, in trouble, violent or heavy drug abusers.

Those being really in trouble or behave dangerously are usually ignored until they at some pont are imprizoned.

I find it's very repulsing and disgusting that any woman anywhere should ever be subjected by family by state or by religion to be violated in any way through virginity testing or vaginal circumcision or mutilation of any form...........

It's a total violation against the human being to perform any of this........ whether it be a woman or a man

I'm also against any form of "arrange marriages"...............

People that perform this or arrange these Acts of intrusion, human violation and so on........... should be punished very very severely........

let's see how they like it.............. Tie their ass up on a rack and then flog the living shit out of them while they're naked so all can see..................

I want to be their flogger............... I'll use a bull whip on their ass........... and believe me they're going to feel it.........😉

My great-great-grandparents came to the united states around 1850..........

I can see now why they left sweden.............

people leave for a reason....... there's a strong possibility this could have been one of those reasons they didn't agree with...

As far as virginity testing.......

how come only the females got to prove that she's a virgin............. and the male doesn't?

Any man should be thankful any woman would take him in to be her husband............. and vice versa..........

if a man's got some kind of a problem.......... including his own family........ That's a woman's not a virgin.........

find someone else............

I'm sure that after these three posts you people can figure that I'm totally against this stuff..........😉

Not that there is a snowball's chance in hell of me ever marrying again but if I rewound to my twenties I think I'd rather have a bride who was not a virgin, who had several previous lovers & was thoroughly experienced. A willingness to experiment & a really filthy dirty mind would help too! 😈

My great-great-grandparents came to the united states around 1850.......... I can see now why they left sweden............. people leave for a reason....... there's a strong possibility this could have been one of those reasons they didn't agree with...

People emigrated to the New World/US in those times for economic reasons primarily. Sweden (and Norway for that matter) was a poor country. Hard scrabble times. Hard to believe compared to modern day Sweden, but Swedish prosperity only came around WWII and afterwards.

Only a very few, small and over-publicized groups of emigrants crossed the Atlantic for anything other than to escape poverty or (as individuals who were left without an inheritance) to make their fortunes.

how come only the females got to prove that she's a virgin............. and the male doesn't?

How would that be done? There is no practical method for testing male virginity. Not even hypnosis or mind-reading could do the trick ... ha ha

I’ve heard horror stories about this practice, in countries like Iran. A girl’s hymen can break by any means possible. In a case like that, is the young girl imprisoned, executed, or punished? It’s barbaric to think that practice is still being done.

I’ve heard horror stories about this practice, in countries like Iran. A girl’s hymen can break by any means possible. In a case like that, is the young girl imprisoned, executed, or punished? It’s barbaric to think that practice is still being done.

Things don't go that far. Shame on her name perhaps and even then there are workarounds for families with means.

There will obviously be doctors who know a trick or two that produces bleeding on the wedding night or perhaps even simpler, just writes out a false attest. For a requisite renumeration of course.

Sadly, I imagine there are many doctors in those places that know parents are concerned enough about this and have money, and will sell them all sorts of extra services and treatments.

It would be easy for them to get a girl on table, do an unnecessary, uncomfortable and unscientific examination on her, and then go out and claim to the family that she is not a virgin in order to sell the family a further "treatment" to fix it for them. Especially if there was a cultural need for her to bleed on a wedding night and the family is worried about their reputation in the community. Medical care and profit can be a dangerous combination, especially when combined with taboo subjects and fear.