Conscripts forced to undress for women

Like @Julas and @Jako my draft exam was with a female doc and nurse. I was a bit disappointed, I would have preferred a male doc and nurse. I was also in short sport shorts or my undies for the most part of the exam. Only for the exam of m my genitals I was fully nude. The usual foreskin check, palpation of my testicles and hernia check. No DRE. What was more exciting was the fact that the exam room had a large unobstructed window facing a secondary school across the school yard. So there I was standing naked, my penis being handled by the doc and I could see the students in their class room.. and I guess they could see me. I wish I would have had to undergo a DRE with a male doc and male nurse in that setup.

"Kulemh "

I presume that if you were called for pre-military exams for draft three times between 14 and 18 age, the girls at your school were more and more informed about your exams and the way you were examined naked in a large group and naked for a long time from the first exam at 14 to the second at 16 and even more to the third at 18 age, if you had the same girlsclassmates at your class, it might be more embarrassing at the second or third exam because they knew much more about it ? more over if your teachers talked a few days before about your exams !

I noticed that except the nurses and doctors you were not exposed to the view of a lot of clerical women or young girls, it was no so akward that I have read on other forums.

Since you were examined three times between 14 and 18, what was according you the worst examination and why ?

Were you mixed one time with cadet students ? all boys being naked upstairs by large group of 50 to 60 boys ? I presume that when you were called to go upstairs by lzrge group, you were told immediately to strip completely even if it was not still your turn to be examined ? if I had well understood you had to wait naked until an officer or non commissioner officer came to call a small group of 10 to 15 boys to follow him while the others had still to wait naked ? were you standing during the waiting or siiting on a bench ?

To "tslave"

I presume that you were a german draftee , so it was not seldom but the most common to be examined by a female nurse and a female doctor and you were in sport short or undies for the most part of the exam, no swim suit was required ? and fully nude for the intimate parts of the exam ; palpation of testicles, hernia check and foreskin check as usual, no DRE, but did you have nevertheless a visual inspection of your anus hole which was also usual ?

I find funny the fact that the exam room had a large unobstructed view window facing a secondary school across the school yard and no curtain to block the view, if you could see the students in their class room, I presume that the reverse might be true even if it was not at a short distance, so that they couyld not see very well your body and normally they could see you only above the waist from the window ?

but nevertheless it was funny even without a DRE , it was the first time that I read it in Germany, while It was common in Russia where some exams were even performed at schools rooms outside the great towns of course who had local facilities for the draft exams.

I presume that the girls of the secondary school knew perfectly what was carried on in the building across the school yard and when boys from that school were summuned for their draft exam the girls might be excited and eager to see the boys classmates being examined ? logical curiosity for teen girls !

"Reman "

you were in Poland so the exam was performed in the nude partly or completely like in many countries

was it still when the country was communist and still less concerned by the modesty of draftees ?

did you were examined by women, nurses or doctors? and exposed to the view of clerical women ?

At the end of the exam , did you were instructed to come in front of a draft board commission which was not composed only by medical persons but by military officers and civilian persons including women ?

did you were questioned also in family by parents first and after at family meet with grand parents or uncles and aunts who asked you to relate in details how it was carried on and how you were examined ? It was my case in France in the last 60's.

if the girls classmates knew how you were examined naked , did they teased you during several days after and also before if they knew the day of the exam and did the teachers asked you also to relate your exam ?

"Liska"

You have written a message 11 months ago :

"Of course, all guys think that they look damn attractive and brutal, but believe me, many look ridiculous. When dozens of naked guys walk in front of you, you simply won’t perceive them as a sexual object."

Your message is already old, but I am asking since you are a woman why you said that ?

Are you a nurse or a doctor ? , do you have known such situations with a lot of boys or young men in the nude at school physicas or military physicals ?

@esaterman You asked @tslave about German military exams called Musterung. I think your idea about the military examinations in Germany is only partly true. In Germany there were special offices for the examination of the conscripts called Kreiswehrersatzamt. The exams were never carried out in schools!

As regards wether nudity was necessary, usually the conscripts don't had to be stark naked. It was your own choice if you want to wear a swimsuit, a sport short or any short pants. But underwear was not allowed. Normally the conscripts only had to pull down their pants. Of course it could be possible that you had to be stark naked but there was at least no general rule that a conscript has to undress completely.

The genital exam took not long. After you pulled down the pants you was asked if the prepuce is fully retractable and you had to show how far you are able to pull it back. Then there was a hernia check and you have to cough. Afterwards also the testicles were palpated and you had to bend over for a rectal inspection but only visual no DRE.

But other than that you are right, it was most common to be examined by a female nurse and a female doctor. Of course there were a few male doctors, but usually this was a women's job because of the work conditions (for instance part-time work).

@medicman What happens if the prepuce is not fully retractable?

@Jacana Sorry, I don't know. Maybe it depends on wether someone joined the army or Civil Service. I think it could be possible that a conscrpt was declared unfit for military service. But I certainly have no knowledge.

@Jacana @medicman @esaterman as with everything that wasn’t 100% clear at the draft exam you would be sent to a specialist for follow up. But since circumcision can not be mandated I assume it might lead to a lower rating of fitness if you have a tight phimosis. Not being able to retract completely would probably not get you declared unfit. Interestingly the foreskin exam was never the big discussion, everyone was scared of the DRE, but (unfortunately) those were not performed.

In case someone hasn’t seen this YouTube video. This is 1990 conscription in Hungary. I think if was not very much different from his it was in other socialist countries. I went through the same process.

https://youtu.be/Ujv2JcWDrlM?si=kAPF6cPK0ontipmE

Very interesting video from Hungary. Thank you for posting!