Big urge without big cramps

Is there a particular recipe that causes irresistible urge without a ton of cramping? Or are urge and cramping inseparable from each other? I enjoy the urge of enemas, but that is often overshadowed by strong nauseating cramps. I've tried things like glycerin and soap, which do produce strong urges, but also seem to increase the cramping to almost unbearable levels.

Very interesting question!

Apart from recipe, i find taking my time when giving an enema to myself can reduce cramping without loss of big urge as long as the amount of water is big enough. Another factor that's worth considering is the temperature of the water.

About a year ago I decided to try OHN's goats milk enema soap. I chose the one scented with Frankincense, while I wasn't expecting anything special from this product, that was exactly the result! I like fairly large enemas so my SSE is typically 3 qts, I dissolve enough soap so that it just starts to appear 'milky'. The enema goes in with little to no cramping and once held for a few minutes you get a good strong urge to expel. I've been hooked ever since - this product works great. I typically follow up with a 3.5~4 qt saline rinse about an hour after expelling. The combination of these two enemas is what I refer to as a mini-series, I like to do this procedure before taking a coffee enema. For coffee I also use OHN's enema coffee boiled then cooled - lately I've increased qty to 2.5 qts held for 30 min unless a strong urge is encountered which is not often. You feel absolutely fantastic afterwards.

Just sayin...

BJ

About a year ago I decided to try OHN's goats milk enema soap. I chose the one scented with Frankincense, while I wasn't expecting anything special from this product, that was exactly the result! I like fairly large enemas so my SSE is typically 3 qts, I dissolve enough soap so that it just starts to appear 'milky'. The enema goes in with little to no cramping and once held for a few minutes you get a good strong urge to expel. I've been hooked ever since - this product works great. I typically follow up with a 3.5~4 qt saline rinse about an hour after expelling. The combination of these two enemas is what I refer to as a mini-series, I like to do this procedure before taking a coffee enema. For coffee I also use OHN's enema coffee boiled then cooled - lately I've increased qty to 2.5 qts held for 30 min unless a strong urge is encountered which is not often. You feel absolutely fantastic afterwards.

Just sayin...

BJ

@BigJane I've used that soap before and it's absolutely wonderful! It's mild and very soothing and does a great clean out, I should buy some more.

Apart from recipe, i find taking my time when giving an enema to myself can reduce cramping without loss of big urge as long as the amount of water is big enough. Another factor that's worth considering is the temperature of the water.

I've tried that. Volume just doesn't create any major urge for me. I mean, I feel like I have to go, but it's not something that would force me to use the bathroom. I could put it off with no issues. That said I've never done over two quarts as going that big usually makes me extremely nauseous. I usually stay 1qt or less.

OHN's goats milk enema soap.

I will have to try that. Soap has been a weird thing for me. I can do small volume enemas with a very large amount of peppermint castile soap (like two tablespoons) with almost no reaction (other than the nice cooling peppermint sensation), but once I go over 500ml, even a tiny bit of soap causes major cramps and nausea. Maybe this goats milk soap will be different. Thanks for the suggestion.

Fast acting Dulcolax suppositories warmed into a 6 to 8 ounce glass of water and injected with a bulb. No cramps, but what an urge to go trying to hold it in.

@Cleanout_lover oil and water don’t mix so the bisacodyl is pushed higher by the water however using Magic bullets will be more effective because the suppository base is water soluble instead of oil , the greater contact the water soluble bisacodyl has all over the rectum will exponentially increase the stimulation for a more complete and thorough evacuation, since the bisacodyl is completely mixed with water it begins working immediately everywhere the water contacts your rectum from high to low . You can also crush the generic tablets with a pinch of baking soda to neutralize the stomach safe coating dissolved in water in place of the suppositories .

@Texaco88 You could try plain cool water. A quart at seventy degrees is somewhat hard to hold, but not crazy difficult. At least for me.

Gravity helps too. If you stand and move around while holding the enema, you should have a greater urge.

Lastly, you could try powdered cayenne pepper, if you’re feeling adventurous. This is very hard to hold, depending on how much cayenne you use. If you’re not sure where to start, 1/16 tsp cayenne in 1 quart is good. Boil 1 cup water, steep the cayenne for 5 minutes (like tea), strain, and let cool (important!) by adding cold water until you have the volume and temp you like.

I have been a big advocate of using baking soda rather than soap in my enemas. That helps because it is not nearly as cramping, but the other thing is to not be in any particular rush and to hang your enema bag low so that there is not a lot of pressure. Also a warm but not hot enema is pretty easy to retain. Most of my enemas are between 1 and 2 quarts and I find that I can hold them reasonably well with little to no cramping. That said, however, when the enema wants to seriously exit, I'm not very good at holding it any longer.

Just the opposite for me - I don't like baking soda because I love strong cramps. Gotta have them to feel like it's an ENEMA (in red and caps to convey the power of the word I love so much!)

I love the building of a strong urge vs cramps. I have used Castile soap of various types from peppermint to lavender and varying amounts. Also Ivory, J&J baby wash, sea salt or baking soda.

I’m finding as I get older that I’m enjoying the whole enema experiment more by using less soap any varying the temp of the solution from very warm to tepid.

I was at one time a large volume enema enthusiast with 4 qts being my comfort zone. Now 2to 3 qts is my comfort zone.

Using a 20 in colon tube gets the solution deep to prevent the early urge to expell and allows me to savor the filling sensation and allow that lovely urge to build.

If you're primarily interested in strong, eventually irresistible urges, 16 ounces of Milk & Molasses warmed to just over 100 degrees administered and held in the knee chest position for 15-20 minutes. Larger volumes are unnecessary and over-kill and more likely to cause cramping. Be near the toilet when it kicks in. Once my stomach starts to gurgle, I usually get very strong, over-lapping peristaltic waves that eventually become completely irresistible. As my mom said: "The other enemas I've given you helped you go to the bathroom. This one will MAKE you go to the bathroom."

Funny thing, as much as I like strong cramps; I only like them from soap - using ingredients like milk&molasses, etc., never appealed to be because it wasn't used when I was young.

Peg solutions orally taked or Epsom salt will give you no cramps but string urge to expell, but it last for a lot of hours... If you need a punishment you can try.

Apart from recipe, i find taking my time when giving an enema to myself can reduce cramping without loss of big urge as long as the amount of water is big enough. Another factor that's worth considering is the temperature of the water.

Got this, too. I observed this by taking a real huge enema short beyond the 4 quart line. I stood up and immediately got an violent urge to expel. I exploded almost instantly as i sat down on the toilet. Never experienced this before without bisacodyl in it.

I enjoy coffee enemas. As such, I have experimented with many different kinds of coffee over the years. Some caused urgency, others were easy to retain. I think it just depends on the bean. Light vs dark doesn’t matter.

I’ve found that this coffee reliably causes urgency. Your mileage may vary.

https://www.peacecoffee.com/products/nocturnal-seasonal-blend

There was a mixture called "Klyx Magnum" that was available readymade in a bag, from a Danish supplier in the 90ies.

The ingredients were: 20g Epsom salt, 20g Carbamide, 3,7g Sodium citrate, 3,7g Citric acid and 0,3g Sodium docusate.

Should be diluted in 1,75 to 2 liters of warm water. Builds a strong urge within 5 to 10 minutes, no cramps.