What brings you to this circumcision forum?

Just curious about what others find interesting about circumcision. This is kind of a niche topic, although tangentially related to medical fetish - circumcision is a medical procedure, after all, and exploring some facet of medfet is why we found this corner of the internet. I do think my medical fetish did precede my interest in discussing circumcision, but maybe the two are so intertwined, it's difficult to say for sure.

I'll start - I am American but born quite prematurely. My parents were buried under a mountain of NICU/medical debt and didn't want to destabilize my fragile condition by circumcising me, even though the prevalent advice at the time (and place - Midwest) was definitely to go for it. As a result, I was kept whole and my mother, who is both a neat freak and control freak, would (over)stress penile hygiene. When I got ‘the talk’, I was told in no uncertain terms that my penis could be very unusual to partners, and was offered the chance to get circumcised on my parents' dime to fit in with the rest of the kids. There's more to it than that, but it kept me very self conscious about my penis through adolescence.

For me, I kind of like the thrill of discussing the topic, if and when it's appropriate. Since circumcision is a sensitive topic, yet something embedded in the culture of America, everyone has an opinion on it even if they can't or won't voice it in polite company. I especially enjoy the female perspective, and also the views of those from foreign countries who are less familiar with the American way of doing things.

“When I got ‘the talk’, I was told in no uncertain terms that my penis could be very unusual to partners, and was offered the chance to get circumcised on my parents' dime to fit in with the rest of the kids.”

Obviously, your mother was in favor of it, even implying that not doing it would cause you problems with girls. What made you opt out?

circumcision is a medical procedure, after all,

I think it would be more correct to say that circumcision is a cultural and religious practice.

If not for the 2 religious faiths that require circumcision, only a very small percentage of males would end up being cut. When done for medical reasons, only a very few unlucky fellows end up actually medically needing it. Otherwise it is all about social/religious pressure.

It is mainly in the US that the practice took off for non religious reasons, most likely being the result of stoked-up and overblown fears of boys masturbating, physicians finding it a means to make a quick and easy buck and back in the days of the world wars and universal induction, the military thinking it would help prevent VD and general infections to the genitals.

And all of the above compounded by a puritan society disapproving of sexuality, yet also fascinated by it so much that cutting a penis became a social obsession.

All pretty odd practices and beliefs when one starts to think about it.

And even for medical reasons, it seems that it was and may be still overdone, in the sense of applied to boys with a tight foreskin who suffered no adverse effect from it, a condition that often resolves itself as the boy ages (and masturbates).

I note the following: 40 years ago, physicians would try to force the foreskin back or incite parents to do so, and now they ask the boy to do it. Maybe back then they did not let the boy do it for fear it would be construed as incitement to masturbation?

To go back to the original topic… When I was 6-7, my mother got informed by her sister that my cousin suffered from phimosis, became concerned about me, had a look at my penis, had our doctor look at it, and then for years kept an eye on it. After a series of painful and humiliating attempts by his mother at retracting his foreskin, following doctor's suggestion, my cousin was circumcised and I saw the result, which made a great impression on me. For some years I feared mom would have me done as well: she was a kind of cleanliness maniac.

This started my fascination about the topic. I like seeing the differences in outcomes, for various surgical methods yield different configurations.

….. and back in the days of the world wars and universal induction, the military thinking it would help prevent VD and general infections to the genitals.

There was never “Universal Induction” in the USA at any time. There was a "national mobilization" and compulsory registration for conscription (men only), but never universal induction. My father served in the US Navy in the Second World War but was never circumcised. I find it odd that anyone suggests that the US military practiced involuntary circumcision during that period. It would have been a huge drain on resources, and completely unnecessary. Let's not perpetuate this myth without facts, despite an overwhelming propensity for Europeans to denigrate the US military (Do you speak German? You're welcome.)

@Morty As far as I know, AGracier holds dual US-Belgian citizenship and speaks English and Dutch (more precisely, Flemish).

I did not see many other penises before I was in the seventh grade and every penis I had seen was circumcised. I had heard the term “circumcision,” and knew it was something done to the penis, but I did not understand anything about it technically or anatomically what had been removed. I saw an uncircumcised penis for the first time in seventh grade and the light went on and I understood what had been removed. My fascination with circumcision began then and continues. it is fascinating to me that so many millions of American parents chose to have their sons’ penises altered surgically. I thought as a kid that the circumcised version looked much better than the unaltered one. It was more contoured which showed off the guy’s shape much better and allowed visibility of the glans and meatus which I have always thought were visually erotic. I have also always been intrigued by how much variation there is among circumcision outcomes from one man to another. I have studied the different clamps used for neonatal circumcision and have watched videos of circumcisions being carried out in an effort to understand the variety of circumcision scars and how the scars can be located so differently on the shafts of individual men. I am also interested in seeing the different skin tones on the shaft skin, glans, and skin between the glans and circ scar. I had my interest in medical exams before I became fascinated by circumcision, but that fascination enhanced my love of physical exams.

There was never “Universal Induction” in the USA at any time. There was a "national mobilization" and compulsory registration for conscription (men only), but never universal induction. My father served in the US Navy in the Second World War but was never circumcised.

You're right about the term induction. I should have said registration. But all the same, when growing up it was the expectation of just about all American boys from the 50s and 60s that sooner or later they'd be fighting in WWIII. Wonderful thing to look forward to back then. Vietnam simply turned out to be a war in 'minor' key compared to what was expected.

If you should read Robert Leckie's memoir ‘My Helmet for a Pillow’ about his service in the Pacific in WWII (the series ‘the Pacific’ is based partly on this book), he tells about not being accepted as a volunteer with the US Marines in Dec. 1941 until he got circumcised. He found a doctor (or his family doctor) who did it for free and waived the $100 fee (pretty hefty back then) out of patriotic sentiments.

And there are other books that mention the various degrees that circumcision was mandatory in the US military, with variations between the services, probably with some recruits just falling through the cracks by indefinitely postponing the procedure or working the system in some way or another to get out of it.

an overwhelming propensity for Europeans to denigrate the US military

My American father was torpedoed twice on a convoy run to the Soviet Union in 1942. Sailed elsewhere all over the globe in later years wherever there was a war zone: Korea, Vietnam, Persian Gulf and on runs to Diego Garcia/Okinawa … I was born when he was halfway around the globe sailing between Japan and Korea during the war there.

speaks English and Dutch (more precisely, Flemish).

There is no such language as Flemish. Using the word denotes a political or perhaps a historical cultural aspect. The language is Dutch.

It would like saying that the folks in the Deep South speak ‘Confederate’ or 'Southron'. Or that people in the US speak 'American', but not English. (no jokes about this please … 😃 ) …

I find circumcision interesting for several reasons:

I am circumcised although a minority of men are circumcised in my country. I always looked to see if others were circumcised in shared showers.

I'm gay, so I’m interested in the look of a penis. I prefer circumcised penises.

It relates to medical exams to determine whether the foreskin can be retracted or not, which I find very erotic.

It may be the cause of my medical fetish, even though I was too young to remember.

I may have been traumatized by this operation and it influenced my sex life. I can't verify it since I can't relive my life being intact.

Obviously, your mother was in favor of it, even implying that not doing it would cause you problems with girls. What made you opt out?

My parts worked fine. Fully retractable - since my earliest memories in childhood - and I was in no rush to have sexual activities at the age of 13. I was already kind of on the periphery of social groups anyway, so having my penis diced up to fit in wasn't reason enough.

Although my foreskin retracts and goes back into place easily I have long wished that I’d been circumcised. I’ve found a method for folding my lengthy foreskin in to itself in such a way as to make my penis look as if it has been circumcised.

I find having or not having this modification to your penis fascinating. That is why I am here

Has anyone wanted to have it done by a femdom?

I have issues with my tight foreskin but i also like the idea to see myself circumsized by sexy female doctor

Ever since I first saw my father naked, I have been fascinated by the penis. His uncircumcised penis was for me, the benchmark of penises. It was incredible.

Has anyone wanted to have it done by a femdom?

I’ve met plenty of guys who do @Tightspantyhose

Sometimes I think I should go back to school so I could be qualified to help 😉

I’m on here because I love cut dicks, I am also curious about why/how it was done. No two experiences are the same.

I find it interesting because I was in the minority of boys not circumcised at birth in my area of the US in the early 60s due to having an older male pediatrician that did not believe in it and my parents not having any health insurance at the time of my birth. I did not know what circumcision was when young only that my penis looked much different and that when having physical exams they always checked my foreskin. I was made fun of in the showers starting in middle school and was offered the chance to be circumcised but it scared me. I later had to be circumcised so I am able to state what it was like before and after circumcision.

What I do like about this whole discussion is the difference again between what’s perceived as “normal” for men and as a mutilation for women. Let me explain a bit further. Cutting away the foreskin of a boy, man, is considered a normality and perceived as being ‘good’ for his health. I just wonder why the female clithood, which is much more difficult to keep ‘clean’, is not just cut away. Having said that, I again see 2 different ‘measures’ (ways of treatment) between men and women, also during medical exams. There hasn’t been a lot of exams that I did have where, in case I ended up being in underpants or naked, my foreskin hasn’t been thouroughly checked. At the other side, I don’t see the same constant obsession about the hygiene of female genitals. Although our body is created by nature, and knowing that nature has done a genious and fantastic work, we think we know better … those ‘items’ are there for a reason. If no reason, nature would have eliminated it (see our tale (tale bone) at the end of our spine) …so, my take on this is, although is does interest me, as long as there is no real medical reason (leaving room for normal evolution) such as phymosis or other medical issues, leave it all intact. Religion is not a reason. Easy money doing a simple procedure neither. Those are, as far as I’m concerned, the 2 main reasons for the procedure. I feel it as a kind of misplaced obsession and would like to really understand where it’s originated from. It probably has to do with some religion but probably also has it’s origins with relation to ‘gods’ in the past, even before the main religions did surface (as they have exactly the same roots). So, my ‘guess’ is that it originated as a kind of sacrifice the socalled ‘strong’ gender had to do to enter ‘manhood’ and to please ‘the gods’ in the first place … question there is, who were ‘the gods’ and who made the decision 😀☺️

It probably has to do with some religion but probably also jas it’s origins with relation to ‘gods’ in the past, even before the main religions did surface (as they have exactly the same roots. So, my ‘guess’ is that it originated as a kind of sacrifice the socalled ‘strong’ gender had to do to enter ‘manhood’ and to please ‘the gods’ in the first place … question there is, who were ‘the gods’ and who made the decision 😀☺️

The classic explanation as to where the practice originated is almost always given as being in Pharaonic Egypt among the priestly class (I forget if in the the Early or Middle Kingdoms). What supposedly started as an initiation ritual/sacrifice eventually spread to other segments of Egyptian society, the nobility first one would surmise and then later to less affluent/powerful levels of Egyptian society.

This is the classic explanation in any case, found in Herodotus's histories and oft repeated. What started as a physical sign of belonging to a class in society invested with power and prestige, evolved into a religious rite tout court as well as a fashion.

Did other cultures practice circumcision so massively/widely in earlier eras than that of Pharaonic Egypt? Perhaps, but apparently there is no sign in archaeological findings like in preserved bodies.

@agracier, thank you for the information. I should have known or remembered it as I did read quite some about the ancient greek history and writers as well as about roman history. (Homerus illias, odissei, cicero, ceasar,…) but that’s already ages ago, when I was in the forst 3-4urs in middle school doing latin/math’s. ☺️. But then again, I suspect that it might be even going back earlier, but that’s another topic 😀.

I know when I first started babysitting when I was 14 I was kinda freaked out about the differences the the boys I sit for..I didn't know anything about them and had to ask some of the parents which I may have sounded dumb..but I had always said that if I had a boy I would have him cut..its easier to keep clean and looks cleaner as well..well I didn't have a boy but a girl but I think I was a big influence on my brother having my nephew cut.. I think all the males in my family are as well..

For me I find the improvement of circumcision being a deliberate and permanent cutting off of parts of the penis, mine and other lads, to be fascinating and also arousing,

I know when I first started babysitting when I was 14 I was kinda freaked out about the differences the the boys I sit for..I didn't know anything about them and had to ask some of the parents which I may have sounded dumb

@Amy93: this isn’t directed at you, since you were only a teenager when you were babysitting. But your comment is prompting me to say this. American parents who don’t circumcise their sons should give babysitters a heads up. Especially if their boys are toddlers or younger. If you trust this person enough to take care of your child and help them with going to the bathroom, why wouldn’t you inform the sitter that your son isn’t circumcised? Even with the circumcision rate in the US decreasing, it’s still the “default”, so to speak, in American culture. It’s possible that your son might be the first uncircumcised penis this babysitter has encountered. So why wouldn’t you give them a heads up and a brief overview of correct care for babies and toddlers who aren’t circumcised? I would rather err on the side of caution and tell them before I leave for the first time than not and just hope they know what they’re doing.

American parents who don’t circumcise their sons should give babysitters a heads up.

Good grief. Since it is an 'unusual' condition for American boys, informing a babysitter is sort of like appealing to their more curious nature. Of course they are going to be curious and come up with all kinds of excuses to get a better look ... I had a supervisor at the YMCA back when nude swimming was mandatory who was curious too, he just had to come up with an excuse during a weekend sleepover at the Y ... and he did.

I bet if you had given that advice to my mother she would have been enraged to no end, convinced that it was no else's effing business, never spoken to you again or who knows what else, an enemy for life no doubt ...

And besides: what in the world is so especially odd, unusual or needing extraordinary care or knowledge about an uncircumcised boy being babysat (?) for one night?

I love how threads seem to go to sleep for years and then wake up as if from a nightmare!

I came to this forum because this is a niche kink, it's taboo to discuss openly and I have no one else to discuss it with. There is very little material out there about it except for some ancient acorn magazine archives, and a smattering of text files and drawings of varying quality. I fucking love being circumcised. I had wanted it so badly since I was a boy entering puberty and finally getting it done when I was 18 was literally a dream come true. I wanted to tell & show everybody, but that was impossible so I sublimate the urge in places like this online. I hate how political it is, I despise that it is done to babies without medical justification, I'm saddened by how much misinformation there is out there - some anti, but mostly pro - like an entire industry seems to be built up around convincing people it's healthier, or cleaner, or necessary, or prevents STDs or cancer or cures premature ejaculation or whatever else they dream up. I'm fascinated by the varieties of this little kink: some like the different bondage angles, some fetishize the operation itself, some have a thing for circumcised t-girls specifically. Humans are just amazingly diverse and still have so much in common. That's what brings me here. Thanks for asking.

Gosh ...Acorn magazine , who else remembers that organisation / publication ?

And besides: what in the world is so especially odd, unusual or needing extraordinary care or knowledge about an uncircumcised boy being babysat (?) for one night?

Well said @agracier. On the flip side of the argument, I since I live in a country where it is not the default… I have never once been informed by the parents of anyone I’ve cared for “oh by the way my son is circumcised.” And I have never felt as if there would be any reason to be.

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As to why I come to this forum I guess it’s because I have always been fascinated with penises, circumcised or not. I grew up comparing my cousins to my brother and being insanely curious about why they looked different.

What brought me here was curiosity. And the desire to learn more. I am from Spain and circumcision is not practiced frequently here. Because I grew up being the only circumcised child, that sparked a lot of curiosity about the topic in the long run. More because as teenagers and adults many always asked me or showed healthy interest.

Then we moved to the US where most boys outside of minority groups were circumcised, and it being the last era of open showers at school further fueled my curiosity. Before becoming a dad I started to learn more, and after becoming a dad I continue to learn.