Point of no return

Hello. I was wondering everyone’s opinion on this. Is there a point of no return with taking enemas to were you are completely dependent on them. Not hurting your self by perforating your colon or intestines but just there is no other way to go other than with a enema. No matter how much you try to get your self to go on your own the only way to go is the enema route

I don't know if there really is an answer to this one. However, I like the way enemas feel as the water flows into me and for me personally, I will continue to take them. Goodness sakes, they feel so good!

Possibly.

I’ve been using enemas regularly since I was a young teenager with no ill effects on my colon. Then, in my sixties, I began to have constipation issues. It became so serious that I ended up depending on enemas to empty my colon. I did seek medical help and was told I had idiopathic constipation. I tried various medications that did not work and eventually settled on regular enemas as the solution. Been taking enemas regularly now for several years.

Aging or over use? No idea.

The answer to that question is both 'yes' and 'no.' I have enjoyed enemas my whole life. For the last 11 and a half years I have taken 2 or 3 enemas almost everyday. I figure 2.5 enemas a day x 4330 days = 10,825 enemas. When I want to switch back to regular pooping here's what I do. I take my morning coffee enema session and go about my day. That night I take my second coffee enema session and slowly masturbate. When i expel my night enema i leave some still in me. When i wake up the next morning I feel like I need to poop some. Here one of two things will happen. I will be able to poop or I will need to give myself a little help. What i do there is take 2, 4oz bulbfuls of warm coffee. I dont retain it longer than 15 to 30 seconds. This allows for some softening of the outside of the poo but still some inner firm. This is usually enough. Sometimes another bulbful is needed, but I don't retain for more than a few seconds. Beyond this, I don't take my morning coffee. I go about the day drinking plenty of fluids. That night, i take a ice cold coffee enema. I hold this for 2 minutes. Again when expelling, I retain some enema. The reason I now switch to ice cold, as cold as I can stand it, is that this shocks the colon. After expelling, I get in the knee-chest position and give myself 2 bulbfuls of olive oil that I have mixed with probiotics. I switch positions every 15 minutes.

First: knee-chest,

Second: sims,

Third: right side,

Fourth: on my back.

Now that my colon is lubricated thoroughly, I put on a diaper and take 2 ex-lax. When i wake up next morning I find oil leakage in my diaper. And now i take an ex-lax aided poop. I am now regular again.

As for me... I have been taking enemas all my life, starting when I was a new born through my growing up years, all the way into adulthood. I was told by my mother and doctor that I'd need help eliminating waste throughout my life due to some kind of problem. However, when I was around 10, our family doctor retired due to illness. Our new family doctor did not think enemas had any place in modern medicine except in rare circumstances. He told my Mom to give me oral laxatives to help me do number 2. Castoria, Ex-Lax, Milk of Magnesia, Feenamint gum, Epsom Salt solution and Black Draught. Mom tried them all. I hated all of them cause they seldom worked. So, I begged Mom to forget the laxatives and start back giving me my enemas. Well, that took some effort, but eventually she did. Well, about 10 years ago, I had gone on a business trip to Washington D.C. and had forgot to take my bag. I got to feeling rather full and after drinking a couple of cups of coffee, I felt the need to go to the bathroom. Well, I did... no laxative... no enema. To this day, if I want to, I can skip enemas for 2 or 3 days... and get in the morning and drink me 2 or 3 cups of hot coffee and within 10 minutes I'll be on the john. So, I guess the answer to your question is.... Yes, you can.... go back... I have... but, I'd rather take enemas.

There are those who say taking enemas will lead to dependence and an inability to have regular or normal bowel function. In many of the older medical texts, enemas were the recommended, or referred to, as the safest method to trigger a BM without disrupting normal peristalsis. Laxatives/cathartics were discouraged because they disrupt the entire digestive system. Obviously, the medical field changed their perspective and now try most anything short of the good old fashioned enema. Try getting one in a hospital or clinical setting anymore.

For me personally, I have found enemas to be the most efficient and effective way to aid in controlling my digestive system and habits. I don't take laxatives/cathartics. This was the preferred method that I was raised on. Mom, and my pediatrician, were strong advocates for enemas in lieu of other methods. Mom and dad's doctor was also an advocate for enemas. I discovered that as I reached an age that had me seeing him, and Nurse Marge.

I began to self administer at a very young age. I also discovered some of those additional benefits that motivate many of us to hang out around here. I don't use them every day and have "normal" bowel function in most cases. My food/fluid intake, as well as medications, influence my bowel function. I usually return to "normal" within 12 hours after an enema cleanse. This has gone on for nearly 67 years.

I like using enemas for a variety of reasons and practical applications. I've posted about pre-emptive enemas, enemassage, and a host of more sensual or R&R related reasons. Thus far, I've not noticed or become aware of any negative aspects of my usage. That includes no indications from medical professionals aside from the more common cautions in today's perspectives.

I don't believe there is a point of no return...but then again, I've not given them up for any substantial period of time.

When I am doing the full cleanse I consider the moment I take the high dose of oral bisacodyl, which is about two hours before the first round of enema, on an empty stomach, to be the point of no return. At that point, I'm stopping when I get a clear return, and not a round earlier, or later!

In a word, NO.

Is there a point of no return with taking enemas to were you are completely dependent ... there is no other way to go other than with a enema.

"Yes" is the answer, I'm reasonably certain, having read many reputable medical musings on the matter.

Personally, take a week or two off from time to time to make sure my bowel function returns to normal, and it always has, but I can't empirically assure you that eventually I'd have become dependent.

No I’ll effects for me with frequency nor volume as well as series’s of enemas

Just reading the question gets me excited - Is there a point of no return with taking enemas to were you are completely dependent on them...... but just there is no other way to go other than with a enema. No matter how much you try to get your self to go on your own the only way to go is the enema route

That's what I wanted - what that last sentenced says, "only way to go is the enema route".

I was in my 20's and I actually wanted this to happen to me, I wanted to become completely reliant on enemas. I began taking soapy enemas every night to stop my having regular BM's. Did this for a month, maybe more, can't remember now, till my wife at the time had enough of my spending so much time with the bag in the bathroom. When I stopped, it was like nothing had happened; was back to normal in a couple of days.

What you describe is enema dependency.

You CAN wean yourself, but it is a difficult and time-consuming process where you NEED your support network

In a word, NO.

Soapy4Me,

I'm just curious. I have no experience personally with reaching this point of complete enema dependency, though after a couple of large enemas it takes me 2-4 days to return to a normal evacuation schedule. Most that I've ever read seems to agree this can happen though I don't recall if it's actually permanent. Why do you say no?

Eric

No! I've mentioned in other threads how I told my first wife that I had a constipation problem and needed to take soapy enemas every night.. and even after she got wise to me, I continued doing it... but when I stopped within a few days I was back to normal.

From my 20's till (can't remember) I repeated going on sprees of trying to be totally enema dependent, and it never happened. Never a problem of stopping and going back to normal. I have read how a person can become dependent on enemas - but the only dependency in my case has been my love of taking them 😄

There's no question that dependency can exist, I think it is only psychological and not physical. No ill effects in 67 years, aside from a burning desire to share with others.

Yes, enema dependency DOES exist! I may be the only human being on the earth that has total enema dependency but it's real. If you look at my past posts, I have said I can not have a bowel movement without an enema. Laxatives make me double over in pain until I have no other choice and Miralax only makes it soft during the enema expulsion. The klismo in me wanted large, frequent soapy enemas taken way too often even after I left home and got married. After many colonoscopies (the latest one in February), I was told everything is normal and I have a diagnosis of "idiopathic constipation". I am now 70. No judgment please.

I don't know anything about how this works medically but from my own personal experience I've never noticed a problem. Even when using enemas often. If I stop I may not use the bathroom for a day or so but than everything is back to normal after that.

Yes, enema dependency DOES exist! I may be the only person in human on the earth that has total enema dependency but it's real. If you look at my past posts, I have said I can not have a bowel movement without an enema. Laxatives make me double over in pain until I have no other choice and Miralax only makes it soft during the enema expulsion. The klismo in me wanted large, frequent soapy enemas taken way too often even after I left home and got married. After many colonoscopies (the latest one in February), I was told everything is normal and I have a diagnosis of "idiopathic constipation". I am now 70. No judgment please.

MomsEgirl,

I've read a number of your earlier posts but my memory's not the greatest. Can you briefly reiterate or put up a link to your post(s) about how you developed your dependence? Thanks,

Eric

I’ve been given or taken enemas for 65 plus years. Can remember a few times as kids, when one of us (brother, sister, or I) were sick, we each received a salt and baking soda enema daily until the sick one was well. Trouble was, by the time the first to get sick was getting well, another started getting sick, so the daily enemas continued until everyone was well. This only happened a few times, and after five or six weeks of daily enemas, we were all back to normal daily BM’s within a couple of days.

The secret to avoiding dependence is to make sure you always have at least several days of non-enema, non-laxative, non- suppository, essentially "Natural" bowel movements.

As long as you are doing that most of the time you are not really "Dependent"

The medical definition of constipation that is the most widely accepted today is fewer than 3 bowel movements in 7 days.

never let myself go that long!

If I am into the 3rd day without a bowel movement, I'm going under the bag!

Yes, enema dependency DOES exist! I was told everything is normal and I have a diagnosis of "idiopathic constipation". I am now 70. No judgment please.

Moms Egirl,

One thing for sure, if this is the worst thing that happens to a person your still in good shape. I'm struggling with a recent relationship where I found out this very professional good looking lady is a functioning drug addict. I knew from the start that she smokes, and drinks more than she should, but to many things pointed to having major problems, and sure enough learn of this unbelievable fate. I never had a chance tell her about using enemas. What's really bad is using enemas is so much less harmful than drinking, smoking or drug use. Yet I bet a lot more people would have issues with it...

WW

Can you briefly reiterate or put up a link to your post(s) about how you developed your dependence? Thanks

@ericmacson (and @water_wetter),

From my teenage years on, I used to get VERY turned on by being given and giving myself hot, soapsuds enemas. There was a HUGE sexual component and I couldn't have an orgasm without enemas and cramps. It was hands down, much better than sexual intercourse!! I didn't want to go to the bathroom without an enema to make me go.

It didn't take long for me to become completely dependent and addicted to a full enema bag. I loved every single thing about the enema. (Feelings, cramps, noises, smells.)

Dependency: I had too many enemas without a natural bowel movement. I could only poop with an enema. And that's how it happened. I'll be 71 and my sexual desires are waning but the enema is a whole different ballgame.

Eric,

From my teenage years, I used to get wildly turned on by being given and giving myself hot, soapsuds enemas. There WAS a huge sexual component and I couldn't have an orgasm without enemas and cramps. It was hands down, much, much better than sexual intercourse!! I was addicted to enemas. I didn't want to go to the bathroom without an enema.

It didn't take long to be completely dependent and addicted to the enema bag. I loved every single thing about the enema.just as

MEG,

That's quite an erotic account of your history. Thanks. Sounds a good deal like me, starting at my first self-enema at 15. Except I still found intercourse just as appealing, so it kept being delightful, especially with enemas on board one or both of us. Glad you keep enjoying them still. Me too, and I miss my Switch ex-wife being Domme and delighting in giving me very submissive enemas mixed with our other kinks. Looking forward to my next one. I always enjoy reading your posts.

Eric

@ericmacson (and @water_wetter,

It didn't take long for me to become completely dependent and addicted to a full enema bag. I loved every single thing about the enema. (Feelings, cramps, noises, smells.)

Dependency: I had too many enemas without a natural bowel movement. I could only poop with an enema. And that's how it happened. I'll be 71 and my sexual desires are waning but the enema is a whole different ballgame.

Yes, similar for me. My orgasms with bad ED and age and old AD meds use need a lot of stimulation, but still usually occur with it especially large long enemas, no cramps desired or needed. But occasionally I'll take a big long enema and won't feel like orgasming so I hold 30-60 min till my holding and distention feelings are satisfied then release. Sometimes I'll orgasm during expulsion which is very satisfying, but sometimes not till afterwards on my bed..

Eric

Highlighting from your great post @Moms_Egirl:

From my teenage years on, I used to get VERY turned on by being given and giving myself hot, soapsuds enemas. ........

addicted to a full enema bag. I loved every single thing about the enema. (Feelings, cramps, noises, smells.)

I'll be 71 and my sexual desires are waning but the enema is a whole different ballgame.

Wow! Story of my life and I can so relate to every word!

@Moms Egirl - You are definitely NOT the only one who is e-dependent. Because we got enemas at least twice weekly growing up, my sister and I were hooked on them by the time we were 'tweens. We literally got an ear syringe full of water the day Mom brought us home from the hospital. Mom didn't want to worry about cleaning up messy bottoms, so she made sure we went when she wanted us to go. It wasn't long before we were squirting bathwater into each other when we bathed together, and then, actually giving each other regular enemas. I have no idea of exactly when it happened, but we began to notice that if we had to refrain from our soapy fun for a longer period of time, like on vacation, we couldn't get a BM. Since we loved enemas, we would just look forward to getting home to a big hot soapy enema. We're now in our mid & late 70's, widowed & living together. We have a large and well used collection of enema gear.

As of now: no.

I can and do have regular bowel movements even with fairly frequent enemas of all types. Sometimes they do help when I'm in a particularly intense running cycle.

But I do enjoy them. Sometimes it's for the pure personal eroticism associated with an enema or a series of them. Sometimes it's just to relax. I've found that it is also helpful after an intense run to stabilize my body temperature if I'm feeling too cold or too hot.

I've gone long stretches through my life without enemas. But over the past couple of years I'm in a new enema phase of my life.

Mom's Egirl

Yes, enema dependency DOES exist! I may be the only human being on the earth that has total enema dependency but it's real. If you look at my past posts, I have said I can not have a bowel movement without an enema. Laxatives make me double over in pain until I have no other choice and Miralax only makes it soft during the enema expulsion. The klismo in me wanted large, frequent soapy enemas taken way too often even after I left home and got married. After many colonoscopies (the latest one in February), I was told everything is normal and I have a diagnosis of "idiopathic constipation". I am now 70. No judgment please.

I do wonder what percentage is because of the enemas and what percentage is just the way the colon is. My colon is very irregular, sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't (seems more frequent), and it seems to be not be correlated strongly with enemas. Which means that it is probably like so many other things: a mix of environmental factors with a genetic predisposition.

I am not enema dependent as to requiring an enema to have a bowel movement . I do enjoy receiving the ‘ recreational ’ enema which is very comforting to me both physically and emotionally . My long affinity for the ‘ give / receive ’ of the enema began long ago in our home where I as a rather young lad developed a growing desire which was reinforced by my discerning mother who began to have a real sense that our enema time was moving beyond a needed constipation bowel ‘ re-start ‘ . My enema is not that of a dependency ’ to get the daily job done ’ but rather one of enjoyment and can be scheduled at my leisure . I do agree that ‘ enema dependency ‘ to effect a bowel movement is real for some as was shared w / me long ago by a dear older lady friend when we discussing the subject of ’ vintage ‘ home enemas and our respective history / experiences with them . My dear friend was a ’ one-a-day ‘ lady as to an enema for her bowels to function with the degree of regularity one would call ’ normal ' .

First of all, I have never become dependent on enemas to have regular BMs. I am very careful to separate my enema sessions for however long it takes for my colon to fully recover and have regular BMs. The length of time between enema sessions will depend on how many enemas I do in one session. My approach is to let my digestive system become fully operational and regular before giving myself enemas again.

Now to address the OP's question. I would imagine that the longer the period of time that you have had total dependency on enemas to remove poop from your colon will require a longer period of time for it to return to full function. But I do think if the person is healthy otherwise they can reactivate their colon's ability to function on its own again. I would think taking probiotics would be the first step in combination with all the common recommendations of eating high fiber foods and drinking lots of water would be the way to get your colon working again.

I am one who absolutely loves the physical feelings of giving myself enemas- everything from filling to expelling. I can understand how someone could easily become dependent on enemas just for the physical sensations they provide. If you don't want to become dependent on enemas to have a BM, you really need to regulate your use and frequency. Maybe single small volume enemas might work to lessen the likelihood of becoming completely dependent. Watch how your body reacts and settle into a routine that your colon can tolerate and still function independently.