Is Gay MedFet 'Different'?

There aren't a lot of topics in the "Gays" section of the LGBT Discussions, so I thought I'd start a new one. I've been participating in the standard discussion groups and see some pretty stark differences between "them" and "us". What do you think are the main differences between MedFet for the gay community and for the L-B-T- + & Str8 communities?

I'm not sure it's different except in that way that gay and straight sexualities are distinct to begin with. For myself, I don't really role play - my thing is that I am very into some real exam experiences I had in my teens and it's a masturbation thing, I guess, more than anything else. I like sharing memories of experiences with others who are similar. I'm open to sharing with men and women, gay and straight, but I guess I am more at home when sharing with another gay guy because there is a sense that our responses to those real medical experiences (by responses, I mean the possibly hard to articulate reasons they became a fetish) might be better understood by another gay guy. If that makes sense.

I don't think that there should be much of a difference if the patient and the doctor are open and honest about the complete exam. If you are talking about a fantasy experience that is a totally different story but as a bi man I have had exams by straight and gay doctors and they were exactly the same as I would have expected.

I think so. Having been with both gay and straight men my observation is that gay men are much more in tact with their bodies making med/fet a far more erotic experience. Because gay men can be far more open about their bodies it leaves much for the imagination to enjoy a med/fet expereince.

I enjoy being patient to a straight playdoc, there is something about the dynamic that is a massive turn on! The experience of having him explore my ass and then collect a semen sample is incredible. It has not been a negative factor at all. At first I thought it might be, but things were every bit as realistic and erotic as I had hoped, probably because we were both very much into the medfet experience itself to the point that our different sexualities didn't matter. I guess for me the difference is that a straight guy doesn't want to fuck me and the gay playdocs I have played with sometimes make it clear that they would like to.

I do find myself wondering about the motivations/desires of straight male playdocs who examine other males. Don't get me wrong - if they want to do it then I'm happy to oblige. But I wonder what they get out of extracting a semen sample from another man, for example.

I do find myself wondering about the motivations/desires of straight male playdocs who examine other males. Don't get me wrong - if they want to do it then I'm happy to oblige. But I wonder what they get out of extracting a semen sample from another man, for example.

I suspect it is because, for most people, "strange" always makes us hot. I'm sure there are gay men who would be a patient for a female doctor if the scenario was interesting. The fetish allows someone to experience what might otherwise be off-limits to them by putting it within a framework.

As a very straight male play doc, I have very little interest in examining men. Note, however, I said “very little” - not none … 😳

It used to be none. And I can honestly say, the only reason for the change has simply been me broadening some of my medical study to male physiology. The driver for THAT has been … myself.

I’m personally fascinated with the sensations I can trigger on myself via urethral and prostate play, so I’ve started studying more. The greater amount of study has lessened my default “ewww!” reaction that used to come anytime I even considered another man unclothed.

And so, extremely mild though it may be, my own interest in a male exam is more about my curiosity about the anatomy and in how I might react under certain stimuli … and what better way to explore such things than via another person whose anatomy matches my own?

Bottom line* … as a straight play doc, any interest in examining men is entirely non-sexual. But hey, I’ve changed this much, one is never wise to reject any idea outright as if one can never change.

-tyd

* Pun intended. Always intend the pun. A good pun, like the best dessert, should never go to waist.

@NetBear

I do find myself wondering about the motivations/desires of straight male playdocs who examine other males. Don't get me wrong - if they want to do it then I'm happy to oblige. But I wonder what they get out of extracting a semen sample from another man, for example.

Maybe if the patient is a man but androgyne. That means his behavior and his body are not so masculine and he is playing the "female“ part in the relationship. The straigt man who is playing the doctor is masculine and dominant. But I think this is only one of a lot of different reasons because there are a lot of man who are very masculine and gay.

Interesting question. hmm.

One thing that has stood out to me participating in (mostly) straight forums like Zity is how few gay guys in general seem to be into MedFet? i do not know of any gay MedFet forums? Even 'kink' in general. The only gay BDSM forum i know of is Recon, and it looks and feels very different to me from say The Cage, a primarily straight BDSM forum.

I've met a lot of gay guys in my life, but never met one @ho had an enema fetish, especially as a Top, for instance.

My overall feel with gay men is i have found very few Who are into the psychological side of sex as much as i am? I often feel like an anomaly amongst gays as a gay guy.

My overall feel with gay men is i have found very few Who are into the psychological side of sex as much as i am? I often feel like an anomaly amongst gays as a gay guy.

Perhaps this is because until fairly recently, even during my lifetime, homosexuality was often listed as a 'pathology of the mind' as well as an actual crime, as unusual and therefore inappropriate sexual activity, being called a fetish even or a cult (for crying out loud).

So I would suppose that just simple (legal) acceptance is already a liberating feeling and still needs to be fully experienced and enjoyed before becoming satiated and then moving on to other forms of sexual activity.

Perhaps this is because until fairly recently, even during my lifetime, homosexuality was often listed as a 'pathology of the mind', as unusual and therefore inappropriate sexual activity, being called a fetish even or a cult (for crying out loud).

So I would suppose that just simple (legal) acceptance is already a liberating feeling and still needs to be fully experienced and enjoyed before becoming satiated and then moving on to other forms of sexual activity.

i think this is a great point agracier!

my general feel is not that gay guys lack similar interest, desire or need, but that they are more reluctant to expose those things about their self. It makes sense to me that many are getting used to the idea of just being accepted as gay and don't wanna push the envelope by giving others potential reason to send them scrambling back into hiding in a 'closet.'

I am a gay man and also a play doc. When I first started to do play exams I assumed that most of my play patients would be gay men. However, that turned out to be far from the truth. The majority of my patients were and still are men who identify as straight or bi, not gay. I offer and do exactly the same offered sets of exams with no sex involved to all of my male patients regardless of their sexual orientation. They seem to like the exams as over 90% of my patients keep coming back for more exams with me. If people are really into med fet, then it doesn't seem to make a whole lot of difference in the sex or sexual orientation of the play doc, as long as they get an enjoyable exam.

However, my experiences in seeking play docs for myself when I have the desire to be a play patient have not been great. When I ask for a play exam from a play doctor who identifies as straight, I will usually be turned down flat just because I am a male and not a female. If no sex is involved, then why should it matter who is given an exam? Does a real life doctor pick and choose his or her patients for exams? Certainly not! They take whoever is seeking an exam with them.

When I ask for a play exam from a play doctor who identifies as straight, I will usually be turned down flat just because I am a male and not a female. If no sex is involved, then why should it matter who is given an exam? Does a real life doctor pick and choose his or her patients for exams? Certainly not! They take whoever is seeking an exam with them.

i think this is a good and interesting question. i wonder if it has to do with the individuality of our sexuality, and how layered and complex it can be?

No doubt, there are straight guys with a med fet who would play doc to you, so it's not necessarily a universal phenomena... i'd imagine there are some on this site? But, i don't doubt your experience either.

i've found with myself that some of my desires/needs are a lot more easily accessed than others. For instance, just about any Guy Who expresses the need/desire to breed me will evoke the bottom in me with little to no discrimination. Add what i perceive as mean, forceful or bullying to that, an i shut down and become unavailable.

There's also things like S/m. i have no desire/need for pain, but i have experienced where a Man has gotten me to want a spanking from Him by using the sub parts of me as a sort of door to someplace i would not generally want to go. Using affection and His own desire/need had a mind fuck effect on me and His accessing and controlling those things positioned Him to spank me. But it wasn't the spanking, it was His affectionate expression of His need that got me.

i don't really have a Doctor/patient fetish, but i would speculate there are similar dynamics at play. That maybe with some accessing other parts of their desire/need could over arch the gender part? Even there, i think it would never be universal, but i suspect some of those guys could be seduced using some of their other needs/wants to get there?

When I was a kid/teenager, I was part of a group of people of a range of ages that got together to play doctor and similar games that could lead to sexual experimenting of different degrees. Of the boys I kept in touch with later, the few who grew up to be gay or bi tended to look back on those games as a wholly or mostly positive and welcome entry to sexuality, while the boys who grew up to be straight were more ambivalent about it or more embarrassed that it had happened. It was not the "magic" thing for them that it was for the gay ones.

Im a gay man, and I've been interested in med-fet since I was a little boy, but at that point I didn't know what it was all about... just looking at medical books at the local library, and watching MASH and other medical TV shows. Granted now I'm an adult I'm into a different mind frame about it. My fetish is very clinical and no desire of eroticism, if that makes sense. But definitely attention to the prostate and genitals during the exam. If that makes sense. A very good thread, and thanks for letting me add my comment. 😊

Im a gay man, and I've been interested in med-fet since I was a little boy, but at that point I didn't know what it was all about... just looking at medical books at the local library, and watching MASH and other medical TV shows. Granted now I'm an adult I'm into a different mind frame about it. My fetish is very clinical and no desire of eroticism, if that makes sense. But definitely attention to the prostate and genitals during the exam. If that makes sense. A very good thread, and thanks for letting me add my comment. 😊

I'm bi (maybe more gay-leaning lately) but I agree with all of this. I wonder if there might be some special appeal of medfet to gay kids. Although, having said that, my partner is not the least bit turned on it by it so I don't know.

The senior class at my high school always put on a variety show near the end of the year called the Senior Assembly. It was a mix of things. Kids with musical talent would sing or play, someone might tell jokes or juggle. But there were always skits about memories of high school events, classes, etc. A group of jocks my senior year did a skit that made fun of our school's somewhat notoriously time consuming sports physicals (always very large groups, in a station-to-station scheme with invariably LONG waits (you had to arrive by a certain time, but it might be hours before you or the group you were with was called in). Anyway, this skit was kind of a ripoff of the dungeon skits on Nickelodeon's You Can't Do That On Television, with the idea of making fun of the long waits. A couple guys walked in and said to a guy with a clipboard that they were here for the physical. The guy tells them, "go on in and get ready and wait for your names to be called." So then the curtain opened and there were a few hairy kids, who had also not shaved their faces, hanging from dungeon chains and wearing underwear. The newly entering guys asked "how long have you been waiting?" and one of the guys answered, "We're here for our kindergarten physical." SO, long story short, it bears pointing out that 3 of the 5 kids involved with this sketch, including the one who wrote it, turned out to be gay or bi.

So I'm a gay guy, since I was a child I took pleasure in seeing something about medicine and I also took great pleasure in seeing men dressed in white. Every time it was a situation that always made me masturbate imagining something being examined by a doctor. My fetish is for urological and proctological exams without sexual involvement

This is an interesting post. I’m not a gay man, and I’ve never been interested in men, however my medfet interest is stethoscopes and listening to heart and breath sounds. I generally only enjoy women, but as a child I used to examine my cousin and he would examine me. My only real interest was his chest and I would listen to him breathing and his heart. As an adult, I do occasionally find myself looking at younger men with smooth chests and imagine listening with my stethoscope.

I think age play may differ for us. Where stories of straight exams of similarly aged adults tend to be about exposure and humiliation, ours tend to become decidedly porny in that situation. Gay exams tend to be about the exposure and humiliation of of the patient only when the doctor is much older than the patient (and nobody wants to see or imagine the doctor sexually). In scenes like https://www.waybig.com/video/extra-heavy-dosage-doctor-tapes-468800.html I stop watching halfway through, while the patient is naked and being fondled by the doctor, but before any medical staff start becoming sexual. The porniness ruins my fantasy. Not sure if that's just me (a side, neither top nor bottom) or also true for most gay medfetters. Meanwhile I think straight medfet tends to do a better job sticking to the doc staying clothed and just humiliating the patient.

I'll throw out some thoughts. I had a bodywork practice in NYC. I advertised it primarily in the back of gay bar publications. That said, my clients were not 100% gay men. They were closer to 50% gay men, 50% bi men (or straight men?) A clear reason is that I offered prostate massages as part of the session. Body Electric wades in here, but it's very difficult to find anyone because the legal enforcers of massage rules don't accept/allow prostate massage. You'd have to go to your specialist doctor with a medical reason. Not the same as picking up the phone on an urge to schedule.

I also ensured that it was their session, their experience, and that I was only involved as the practitioner.

The youngest clients were the ones who would immediately flee after one.

It was different with gay men because if they considered themselves to be tops, this flipped the assumptions. I could usually tell from the path of their responses.

Going back to the original question, in NYC, with a, by comparison, large population of gay men, there was a group of us who were heavily into medfet, sometimes through play exams, sometimes through actual exams with gay, or gay friendly doctors (not, for the record, using insurance). They felt the most detailed physical exams to be deeply satisfying. I'd have to think more about why this was true. Perhaps because gay men grew up feeling that they couldn't respond because it was gay, a negative, whereas once out, they could relax, and revisit physical exams from the past?

I lived as a gay man for the first two decades of my life, then started my transgender journey, where my partners shifted from gay men to bisexual, straight, questioning, or men otherwise down to fool around with someone like me with breasts and also male genitals.

There is a STARK difference between medfet between gays and medfet with men who are hetero or otherwise live publicly as straight or are strangers to the queer scene.

The gay men I did medfet scenes with operated with zero shame, were down for the weird, new, taboo, kinky, etc things you could ever imagine.

I felt no shame about my body and never shied away from being nude in front of a partner or even a Crowd. And if one of us had a kink that their partner didn’t share, I often found gay men willing to try anything once, even just for the hell of it.

I regularly played with men who had an enema fetish or gave enemas as part of medfet play. We had WAY more fun than my exploits with hetero men or men who lived as hetero regardless of their real orientation. We did all kinds of roleplay and these guys had become experts in the things that turned them on.

It’s harder to find men into medfet scenes now. When I do find men into enemas or medfet, they tend to have strict scripts for our time together, focusing on their narrow vision for what turns them on, and they make little space or have zero consideration for my desires if they don’t happen to coincide exactly with theirs. And when I do a medfet scene with a hetero or culturally hetero guy… it is usually a scene where I am being examined, violated, humiliated, scrutinized, or splayed out for someone examining me. I felt more like some specimen underneath a microscope under the gaze of a voyeur, rather than an active participant in a mutual, fun, naked, dignified, and equitable experience.

I don’t regret my transition but BOY do I miss having sex with gay men