Need some ideas

I am now being a dominant to quite the mouthy little 19-year-old. She likes to talk back and talks back to not only me, but her teachers, her family (parents) and pretty much any authoritative figure in her life. She's genuinely lazy and normally combative. I just got her to address me the correct way, as "Mommy," but even that took a lot of fighting. I provide her with a lot of love and compassion but that seems to make her act out more. I wondered if you had any good ideas for straightening out a little girl who is acting out way more than a normal 19-year-old should...she's strong, she's a fighter, but I have no problem controlling the fighting. I just need some good ideas to discipline her and pull that little attitude right out of her.

Give her corner time. Her nose in the corner without removing it for 10 minutes can seem like a lifetime. Particularly with reddened cheeks and panties around her knees but it is effective even without the spanking. Suppositories with glycerin are also effective while being in the corner. You think it is no big deal but her nose in the corner instead of her phone can seem forever.

Washing her mouth out with soap anytime she is mouthy, curses, etc....Any infringement involving her mouth, really.

Other rudeness, outbursts, etc. can be death with any number of ways....As Moppy said, corner time is good. Shutting them out seems to get their attention. Letting her know you are not happy and will not be engaging her on any level until you feel well enough to. Don't give a time frame.....Just until you're ready. Trouble with spankings, service projects, etc is that she may actually enjoy the spanking, the verbal abuse.....If punishment is what. you seek, you must reward her with what makes her aroused. Otherwise, you are actually encouraging the behaviors which you wish to erase. It must be something she truly does not enjoy.

One of favorites is making her wet her self....Through her pants and panties and on to the floor. Hardwood or tile. Then......I rub her nose in it like I would a dog. I talk to her like she is a dog....I beat her ass with a rolled up newspaper while rubbing her face in her urine.

Ms Sassy

I suggest you discipline her with the most embarrassing, humiliating,uncomfortable and degrading punishments you can think of.

Punishments that even you would not allow on your self.

Have her bound gagged and blindfolded and naked...then gently lubricate her bottom hole and insert 2 or 3 glycerin suppositories as deep as possible.

Wait a few minutes and administer a hot soapy punishment enema.

Spank her bare bottom with a leather strap until her cheeks are bright red.

Then diaper her and chain her in the corner until she cries and begs and promises to change her attitude if you release her and let her use the bathroom....

The rest is up to you.

May I suggest locking a pair of ballet boots on her. She can still walk if she wants but chances are she’ll need to crawl to get anywhere unless she’s trained en pointe.

I would also suggest a chastity belt, however female specific ones can be difficult to make truly secure.

Good luck!

I would suggest first of all that you're spanking neither hard nor long enough. Contrary to what naughties think, the spanking actually BEGINS once they calm down and accept it. I recommend a stout wooden hairbrush applied with lots of vigor. A blazing red behind never killed anyone.

While I'm a believer in the great power of enemas, I agree with others that smart mouth and back talk calls for mouthwashing (after a good hard spanking, of course). A bar of soap in the mouth during cornertime gets old quite quickly.

Bare with me, I'm a bit confused.

You are in a relationship with this girl, but you have a genuine problem with her behaviour? She's actually not behaving the way you want her to, and actually not trying to behave right?

This just seems a bit strange to me. I'm not judging but I'm more used to relationships where the sub wants to follow the doms rules, and if they disobey the ultimate sanction is being dropped.

So - is this a game the two of you are playing, that she'll push back until you punish her to the point where she stops?

For myself, I'd give her the rules that she has to follow, and I'd make it clear that if she breaks those rules there will be punishments (I'm a sadist so it's not going to be the naught step or corner time. We're talking about extensive electrical torture) She could avoid it by doing what she should. If she keeps going I'd up the ante.

How does your relationship actually work?

Give her a punishment enema and put a plug in her. Then spank her bare bottom until red then corner time.

Respectfully, my answer to your question is harsh. Explain to her the way things are going to be (as you have so many times before) and if they are not as you prescribe, she will be out on her keister and that is that; no second chances, no do-overs, no BS.

But she'll know you'll take her back (as before) and so she has again become the dominant by topping from the bottom. Even if it has been explained to her that she is being disrespectful to her Domme she is unlikely to change as she does not respect authority to begin with. She has been accepted as she is, a disrespectful, willful, mouthy, lazy and physically combative child.

I am in agreement with Missolia

I'm not judging but I'm more used to relationships where the sub wants to follow the doms rules, and if they disobey the ultimate sanction is being dropped.

For myself, I'd give her the rules that she has to follow, and I'd make it clear that if she breaks those rules there will be punishments (I'm a sadist so it's not going to be the naught step or corner time. We're talking about extensive electrical torture) She could avoid it by doing what she should. If she keeps going I'd up the ante.

This just seems a bit strange to me.

This is really pretty classic....perhaps she is trying to find herself....maybe her resistance is indeed her way of "topping from below' perhaps a sign that she wants to be a Top or a Domme...maybe even a Switch. My perspective is that as a SSC relationship can only flourish when both parties find their niche.

I would sit her down and explain to her that you want no contact from her until she decides what she wants.

The worst punishment you can give a submissive is to deny them yourself...ignore her completely. Let her come to you on your terms and when she does, set reasonable conditions...reward her acceptance...punish her indiscretions but always be able to show her the door....even open it for her and let her decide...not everyone will fit what you want...and maybe she will stay and maybe she will walk.

If you try to hold her too hard, she will fly away.

@specialuse said

. . . . The worst punishment you can give a submissive is to deny them yourself...ignore her completely. . . .

There is no question that this is the correct thing to do.

IGNORE HER.

Even telling her to stand in the corner, which is pretty benign, is something you are telling her to do. If she doesn't follow your instructions, what are you going to do then?

Just IGNORE HER until she comes around.

Switchable...Thank you ! I was wondering how this would be received...no devious punishment can make a person stay and I'm glad you agreed.

S/u

A misbehaving submissive WANTS to be punished. Their mistake is thinking that misbehaving will achieve that.

YOU want her to be punished the way YOU want her to be punished, and she has to behave properly for that to happen.

A submissive has to behave in order to get punished.

Ignoring a misbehaving submissive is the only way to make that happen.