Nusing Student enemas South Korea

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Perhaps this school has open enrollment? ???

They should just suck it up and learn how to do the procedure. I dont agree that this should be done before the whole class if it contains male nursing students.

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If it's volunteers they need I bet if they ask zity members they will have all the volunteers they need. In regards to the embarrassment of the students they need to get over it. They are going to have to be viewing genitals and the anus of the patients they are treating. They NEED TO KNOW AND UNDERSTAND what their patients are feeling. It has been said that if every medical student could get good and sick before they graduate and become Doctors they would all have more compassion and understanding for the people they are treating. I for one cannot help but to agree. The last thing I want is to see someone become ill, but if it helps med students have a better understanding of the patients and gives us a higher quality of healthcare then so be it. Perhaps a better solution to one person bare with everyone watching it to pair up with a partner and each takes care of the other.

TAKE NOTICE MEMBERS AND READ AGAIN BEFORE YOU REPLY! "I DO NOT WANT TO SEE ANYONE GET SICK, but if it helps them become better, and more compassionate, professionals well..............

my sister was checked by three different so called professionals and all said there was nothing wrong with her. The last one had the nerve to imply she should see a shrink. She then told him to go and do something that is physically impossible for many of us. She called me in tears and asked my opinion. I told her to contact one of the local University hospitals in Philadelphia that specializes in Gastro problems. Within a week she was examined by the Department chair. He himself did some testing and it turned out among other things to be a bacterial infection of the small intestine which is now cleared up. It also uncovered some small gall stones and an inflamed gall bladder. She is feeling much better and will have the gall stones taken care of immediately after Thanksgiving. For whatever it's worth folks. If you are having medical problems find the very BEST professional that deals with your illness even if you have to travel around the world to Timbukto!

You have to get real time experience somehow! Either break up the group in smaller willing groups or assign 'homework'. I've always learned by doing regardless of the mission.

Given what I’ve willingly endured as a patient in order to improve my health, I would hope that my nurses and doctors have a good if not first hand understanding of the procedures they are doing. No, they should not have to undergo surgery in order to perform surgical procedures, but many procedures (including sensitive ones such as enemas, rectal temps), yes, I think it’s not unfair to ask nurses & doctors to experience these firsthand in a controlled, supervised, small-group situation.

I strongly suggest every person in the world see this movie. The Doctor, 1991. It shows what a Dr. usually does not see when a person is a patient.

This is about a procedure at the other end of the body. Several years ago my wife had to undergo a tube being passed through her nose into her stomach. Needless to say she was very distressed as we were ushered into "the room" and met the attending nurses. Amazingly they had her calmed down and relaxing within minutes. Turns out all patient contact personnel in the department had to undergo the procedure so they could understand the patients stress and feelings as well as develop their professional skills. They were proud of their training and what they learned. So... what's wrong with the wimps in Korea having to endure a good ole enema in a professional setting? They should grow up and maybe enjoy.

I’ve definitely wondered what doctors and nurses go through as part of their training. As a kid I hated the nurse who gave me shots because she was always grinning and I thought “YOU should get one too!”… that’s how my little mind thought. But honestly have doctors and nurses experienced many of the procedures their patients have to endure? In the Korean nursing situation, maybe if each person had to be the patient then it’s more equitable and they’d get more real life practice. A mannequin doesn’t show fear or discomfort after all.

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@GraceT, @compacto, @RichardAsni, @ginnie I definitely agree with you.

The particular implementation of singling out one person to be the patient of the day certainly isn't the best, but by far a lot easier for a healthy student to get an enema or for that matter, any other procedure. They don't have to like it, but something they (all) should be required to do and that's it. Its no "issue of human rights." If so, then it would be much more so for patients. If other students "don't want to give an enema because they also know how they feel", then how will they ever be able to give enemas to patients when necessary?

I’d have them practice on mannequins. However, I’d also give homework: buy a Fleet enema and give it to themselves to learn how it feels. Follow that with discussion in class. I think that’s more sensible.

The same with water enemas. I’d order enough of the hospital, disposable bags, give each student one and tell them to take it home or wherever they’re living on campus, and follow instructions.

Now, if you have nurses living in dorms during their training, if they want to practice on each other in private, I would leave that up to them … but that might be the best (maybe even enjoyable!) way to learn! Can’t wait to hear their report!!

I don't think that a classroom display is inappropriate since medical models are commonly used to demonstrate techniques. Being a student and subjected to something as personal as a enema warrants discretion. I would think pairing students up - voluntarily - is a solution and done in private. Similarly, allowing for volunteers is another way to address it.

Back in the '60s my hubby was dating a student in the college of nursing at Arizona State University. She reported that they all had to take turns giving and receiving enemas from each other as a class assignment. He didn't remember if it was done privately or not.

I have previously posted a few times, about some health education type classes during college. It was back in the early 70's. One particular professor who was an instructor, also taught in the School of Nursing. As a Phys Ed major, certain classes were required. They included Health, Emergency 1st Aid, and Matrology/Patrology. The topics of douching and enemas were covered and even found their way into quizzes prior to final exams.

The professor seemed to delight in causing her students to blush and squirm as she used props to teach us about those more sensitive topics. While live human demonstrations weren't an aspect, the full douche/enema bag was hung from an I.V. pole. and discussion about the differences between a douche nozzle and enema tubing.

I had always hoped I'd find myself being attended to by this nurse/professor!

I read about that somewhere else because of that all of that stuff is verboten in just about every country they're never going to do that again