Vanilla?

Having read many posts under 'Spanking', I can only conclude that I am not kinky enough to be here. Childhood spankings from a female relative given for her own pleasure, but being sexually rewarded afterwards have shaped my strong enjoyment of both getting and giving sexual spankings with women.

Three women come to me to get spanked and made to cum, but they are all reluctant to return the favour. Does anyone have any suggestions. Please don't reply "Just ask them." I have.

@Cardboard

In another post you wrote:

Indeed. My woman is of the same persuasion. She likes giving and receiving. We do both in the same sex session. Each of us enjoy spanking mixed with sexual stimulation.

Do you have a partner who enjoys trading spankings and orgasms?? Are you not getting your needs met there - or do you need/want more? Maybe there is something more - but I don't get it - sounds like you are not all that vanilla.....

The woman I refer to lives and works in another country. We are separated by about 7000 miles. I travel twice a year to meet her. At that time we have an equitable sexual spanking experience.

We both live open lives and the three women who come to me for spanking and orgasm live locally. They are the reluctant ones. I have ordered a remote controlled vibrating egg and my plan is to insert it and activate it to reward any active spanking behavior on their part. Traditional psychology findings suggest that periodic reinforcement results in a tendency in the reinforced party to repeat the reinforced behavior. I know that psychologists are pretty good at electrocuting rodents and know little about people, but the technique was first tried on rodents and pigeons and finally on people and was found to work.

Does anyone have any experience of using such a procedure?

Three women come to me to get spanked and made to cum, but they are all reluctant to return the favour. Does anyone have any suggestions. Please don't reply "Just ask them." I have.

Get new women

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The woman I refer to lives and works in another country. We are separated by about 7000 miles. I travel twice a year to meet her. At that time we have an equitable sexual spanking experience.

How many other men is this woman 7000 miles away seeing? and how do you know she is telling the truth with so many miles between you and being seen only twice a year? Do you think this relationship will ever amount to anything?

@SwitchableSusie

You would suggest 'new women', but it is not easy to find those with similar leanings. I'll try the conditioning method with the ones I have when the egg arrives.

No, twice a year is never going to lead to a permanent relationship, but we have known each other for a very long time.

I have ordered a remote controlled vibrating egg and my plan is to insert it and activate it to reward any active spanking behavior on their part. Traditional psychology findings suggest that periodic reinforcement results in a tendency in the reinforced party to repeat the reinforced behavior.

So your "spankee's won't get you off or spank you - and you plan to 'condition' them with a vibrating egg. Do you think that will motivate them to give you blowjob or a hand job or a spanking?

I know that psychologists are pretty good at electrocuting rodents and know little about people, but the technique was first tried on rodents and pigeons and finally on people and was found to work.

Good to know that psychologists are actually good at something!! Maybe they can clean up the rat infestation in New York!!

Does the vibrating egg "electrocute" or shock your partner?? I think I smell a 'rat' - or at least irRATional logic. 😄

I agree with @SwitchableSusie and @gwhap. @Cardboard, you say your have 4 kinky partners for spanking. You do realize that that is 4 more than many have on this site. And no, 4 women who want orgasmic spanking play are not ‘vanilla.’

And the ‘conditioning’ things sounds really ridiculous. Either they dont want to ‘top’ or they might try it. If they’ve refused thus far, you are going to try to entice them with an orgasm? They are already getting that. Surely they’ve used vibrators before, so a vibrating egg is not going to be something magical that changes their minds to want to switch. If your partners are not fulfilling your needs, just find new partners.

It sounds like you need a switch, or to supplement your currrent partners with a Domme.

If your partners are not fulfilling your needs, just find new partners.

Agree with @CJ1999. If you have found 4 partners in the past, shouldn't be a problem to find a couple more.

@Cardboard said

@SwitchableSusie You would suggest 'new women', but it is not easy to find those with similar leanings. I'll try the conditioning method with the ones I have when the egg arrives.

You found FOUR, you should be able to find more.

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I have ordered a remote controlled vibrating egg and my plan is to insert it and activate it to reward any active spanking behavior on their part. Traditional psychology findings suggest that periodic reinforcement results in a tendency in the reinforced party to repeat the reinforced behavior.

That's ridiculous.

You'll have better luck rewarding them with flowers or jewelry or plain old bribing them than vibrating their pussy.

@CJ1999 said

I agree with @SwitchableSusie and @gwhap. @Cardboard, you say your have 4 kinky partners for spanking. You do realize that that is 4 more than many have on this site. And no, 4 women who want orgasmic spanking play are not ‘vanilla.’

And the ‘conditioning’ things sounds really ridiculous. Either they dont want to ‘top’ or they might try it. If they’ve refused thus far, you are going to try to entice them with an orgasm? They are already getting that. Surely they’ve used vibrators before, so a vibrating egg is not going to be something magical that changes their minds to want to switch. If your partners are not fulfilling your needs, just find new partners.

It sounds like you need a switch, or to supplement your currrent partners with a Domme.

I cannot emphasize enough how much I agree with this post.

@CJ1999 said

...... And the ‘conditioning’ things sounds really ridiculous. Either they dont want to ‘top’ or they might try it. If they’ve refused thus far, you are going to try to entice them with an orgasm? .......

It sounds like you need a switch, or to supplement your currrent partners with a Domme.

I have to agree. If it is not in these partners' natures to be dommes or switches, they can't be converted that way by this 'conditioning'. They are what they are.

Having read many posts under 'Spanking', I can only conclude that I am not kinky enough to be here. Childhood spankings from a female relative given for her own pleasure, but being sexually rewarded afterwards have shaped my strong enjoyment of both getting and giving sexual spankings with women.

Three women come to me to get spanked and made to cum, but they are all reluctant to return the favour. Does anyone have any suggestions. Please don't reply "Just ask them." I have.

@Cardboard you're not kinky enough to be here - and I'm reading that you may consider yourself 'vanilla'? I may be wrong - but to me it sounds like you are more like bragging about spanking four women until they cum. 😉 And you'd like them to - return the favor, and you have asked them but they want to receive and not give, but they don't want to.

Maybe you're not approaching your own thread right - four women being spanked until they cum is NOT vanilla, and yes you are are 'kinky enough to be here' fella. 😉 You have some good ideas - but the way you are structuring your thread, needs a little more thought, because you are stepping all over your dick. 😧 If you are wanting advice - on how to get the kinds of women you want to give you what you want, this is DEFINITELY the place to do that. You sound - to me anyway, like you would be better to ask how to ADD more women who will give you what you want.

I know just about - diddly squat, when it comes to Domme or domme, or WTF have you about D/s, but there is a chick here and her name is hint 😉 @SwitchableSusie and that guy @gwhap who are trying to help you form or better define just what you are looking for. Don't get - different women to REPLACE those who come to you to be spanked until they cum, but look for a woman or women to do that switch or domme stuff that you want, too. 😄

To me @Cardboard - you are BOTH bragging (which is totally cool) but also asking how to get what you want. Like someone said - four women is more than a lot of us have here and you might be better asking the question as to 'how do I get more of what I want AND keep what I have?'

Knowing WHAT to ask is very important - knowing HOW to ask, and I think everyone here would like to see you get what you want out of your particular brand of 🙄 'vanilla' 😕 , but you've got to refine your approach a little. Take it from someone who knows - yes, @Cardboard that would be me 😉 and read what you are being told and take their advice or suggestions or criticism and use it to help yourself figure out just what you are looking for. It will take a while - I know. 😉

I am not sure we have the complete story here, you have a women who travels 7000 miles for a spanking?

If I liked someone that much to travel that far,why would she NOT want to do something for you.

Peace,

Caz

@Lora_C said

@Cardboard you're not kinky enough to be here - and I'm reading that you may consider yourself 'vanilla'? I may be wrong - but to me it sounds like you are more like bragging about spanking four women until they cum. 😉 And you'd like them to - return the favor, and you have asked them but they want to receive and not give, but they don't want to.

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To me @Cardboard - you are BOTH bragging (which is totally cool) but also asking how to get what you want. Like someone said - four women is more than a lot of us have here and you might be better asking the question as to 'how to I get more of what I want AND keep what I have?'

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Truer words were never spoken.

If I hypothetically had the choice to have someone spank and masturbate me with no reason to reciprocate, I would lay there all day long and happily have you spank and masturbate me. That's a no-brainer.

YOUR WOMEN HAVE NO REASON TO RECIPROCATE.

Assuming that "Cardboard" is telling us the truth, he has to realize something. These women are seeking a spanking and being brought to orgasm by you, correct? I am a married woman, bi-curious, who has spanked several women, including one who belongs to zity. We have always set ground rules for spanking and post-spanking activities. None of them have included sex for me. I accept that. On the other side of the coin, I have been spanked bare bottomed many times by men, usually on my birthday, every August 14th, for as long as I can remember. Post-spanking sex is only with my husband. The "Bottom line" (pardon the pun!) is that these women just want to get their pain and pleasure from you- nothing else. If you cannot live with these one-sided relationships, may I suggest you end them right now. Sometimes, we women just want to be spanked and not engage in any other activity with our spanker. Got it???

@cardboard - You travel 7000 miles twice a year just to spank a woman? Please PM me with your contact info, I want to talk to you about purchasing the deed to a bridge in NY that I currently own! ROFLMAO!

You travel 7000 miles twice a year just to spank a woman?

@Soapy4me @Caz - He claims he lives in Antartica - so the 7K travel a couple of times a year isn't all that crazy. Return to civilization for a sanity check. If he does live in Antartica and has found 3 submissive women there I'd say he's pretty lucky.

He's been a member for a week with a few questionable posts. I'm not going to waste any more time here!

If he does live in Antartica and has found 3 submissive women there I'd say he's pretty lucky.

People in New York have a hard time finding somebody to spank and masturbate, If he found three in Antarctica, he's a freaking stud/genius and lives in an S&M asylum.

2018 population of NYC: 302 square miles, 8,500,000 people

2018 population of Antarctica: 5,000,000 square miles, 1100 winter people, 4400 summer people

2018 population of the USA: 3,800,000 square miles, 326,000,000 people

Antarctica has ZERO indigenous population

About thirty countries maintain about seventy research stations (40 year-round or permanent, and 30 summer-only) in Antarctica, with an approximate population of 4000 in summer and 1000 in winter.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Antarctica

It's fairly clear that from a statistical standpoint, he either does not live in Antarctica or he does live in Antarctica and the solitude has completely destroyed his mind.

The likelihood of one man finding three women there into spanking and masturbation is about equal to finding life on another planet.

To cite an example here, there are gay guys who are doms and masters that have there own subs and slaves. Once a year they go to an event of other gay guys and they switch without there subs and slaves there. That is how they go about getting there needs met...

So maybe you should find woman who will spank only might be your answer... Finding one that doesn't charge would be golden...

The likelihood of one man finding three women there into spanking and masturbation is about equal to finding life on another planet.

@SwitchableSusie - Very thorough analysis.

As far as finding life on another planet, I thought the consensus was it is very probable if not a fact. So I would say the probability of finding three women in Antartica into spanking and masturbation is LESS than the probability of finding life on another planet! 😄 😄 😄

@SwitchableSusie - Very thorough analysis.

As far as finding life on another planet, I thought the consensus was it is very probable if not a fact. So I would say the probability of finding three women in Antartica into spanking and masturbation is LESS than the probability of finding life on another planet! 😄 😄 😄

I said FINDING life on another planet, NOT there BEING life on another planet. 😁 😁 😁

But yes, the probability and likelihood in either case is VERY small.