Why is glycerin so hard to hold?

I've been using a 50% solution of glycerin recently and it is even harder to hold than an M&M or bakingsoda/sugar enema.

There must be a mechanism that causes peristalsis in addition to drawing water from the colon?

Try mixing it with Epsom Salts. You'll turn into the Rocket Man

I'm not sure of all the reasons WHY, but it DOES work and work FAST!

This is my only real experience with glycerin enemas:

I took an enema once that I isn't want to repeat at the time, but now, maybe under the right circumstances.

Be careful! You want to do this on an empty stomach ONLY!

If you want a SINGLE enema that can really clean you out with one round This will work but use it SPARINGLY No more than a couple of time a year and make sure you are an experienced enema taker, and are ready to be surprised.

Start the afternoon before ideally right after lunch. Eat LESS for lunch than usual

After lunch drink a 32 bottle of either Powerade or Gatorade.

Rinse the bottle repeatedly till you can no longer smell the original contents.

Then put in 18 oz of glycerin. After that's in pour in the contents of ONE Fleet enema or equivalent generic. Fill the Fleet bottle again with 4.5 oz of potable water.

Put the cap back on and shake it up good!

Then let it set overnight

Room temperature is fine.

The next morning without eating anything in between, Drink some water, while you are prepping the bed or table for a Simms position enema place the bottle in a hot water bath in a sink or dishpan.

Once you are set up, pour the contents of that Powerade bottle into an open-top bag type syringe. Hang it about 3-ft above where your rectum will be when you are in position.

Get in the Simms position, and with the nozzle you are most familiar and comfortable with, take the enema as you would normally take a 2-qt enema. Be ready, it goes fast

You should have 2 clean washcloths ready. One as a bite/twist rag the other to stuff in your rectum if you start to leak on the way to the toilet.

I pride myself on retaining 3-qt Epsom salt and soapsuds enemas 15 minutes

I have done this sort of enema 2 or 3 times in my whole life, I have yet to get past 11 minutes!!

You won't need a second enema that gets EVERYTHING out!

Keep a dishpan or empty trashcan within easy reach of the toilet in case it DOES come out both ends at once!! If you fast at least 12 hours ideally more before stating there is a good chance it won't do that, but it WILL feel like it's going to If there IS anything in your stomach, it's almost certainly coming out, so be ready

Don't do anything physically strenuous for at least a couple of hours after.

Wow! I take 10 ml and can't hold it for 3 minutes.....you anus muscles must be Super human!

Glycerin is hydroscopic almost to the extreme. The combination of osmotic load from even modest concentrations of glycerin and hydroscopic characteristics of glycerin result in it literally sucking the water out of the cells that line the bowel, and the cells really don't like this very much at all and as a result will attempt to rid the colon of the offending substance. The higher the concentration of glycerin, the faster this happens. This is why both glycerin suppositories and enemas containing glycerin are so effective.

Glycerin is hydroscopic almost to the extreme.

Hygroscopic. With a g not a d. 😉

I routinely do a 2 quart enema with 10% glycerin and have a hard time holding that for 5 minutes before starting a gut wrenching expulsion (which I love) that empties me completely. I can't imagine what its like at 50% and am not about to try! My hats off to those who can hang in there for more than 5 minutes.

Yes, Glycerin is "da bomb" ingredient. Either with Epsom salt or with soap. It will really start a very strong peristalsis action and effectively clean the entire colon. A 3 quart plain water rinse enema will return almost completely clear.

Glycerin starts to cause intense urges faster than sugar containing enemas, like Mayo or Molasses, in which the sugars must be digested by colon bacteria before the laxative effect starts. Glycerin irritates almost instantly.

There are pluses and minuses to this speed of action. The plus is if you want instant cramping, it works well. If you want to get the whole bag in, try a sugar containing enema. You should have a couple of minutes befoire it really starts working.

BTW, I don't thing the water drawn in by glycerin is a big factor. If you give 15ml or so of glycerine, you don't poo a lot of water although the urge will be intense.

I have been using glycerin and epsom salts for years. Generally I go for 5-10% of glycerin by litre volume and 1 teaspoon of Epsom salts per litre. This is highly effective, but holdable, with either enema butt plug, double balloon or the new siliconenozzles inflatable balloon. I also use it as an enema 'infusion' in my colonic irrigation system. In all cases the results are the same: clear returns on the next enema or CI system treatment. I have always been a bit dubious about the efficacy of those Japanese glycerin punishment enema syringes lovingly displayed in the videos : in all cases they are likely to wipe the floor with the benighted recipient for days.

Looking forward to a monumental round of enema and CI sessions next week here spread over four days. Be good all and enjoy the weekend!!

4 tablespoons Epsom Salts and 4 oz glycerin in 1 quart is very hard to hold. I would give that and require a 5 minute hold or 50 with the paddle after if it was less than that amount of time. I would say she usually ended with a hot bottom.

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On the Japanese enemas, they pretty much four types:

The clear silicone fountain syringes in two or three liter sizes, often filled with diluted milk or colored water or some kind of herbal infusion. These are conventional and are often used for "contests".

Higgenson style bulb syringes. These are often used to give both water and air making the recipient fart a lot during the release. They don't seem to be used to give large volumes of solutions.

The glass (and now some plastic) piston syringes. These come in sizes from about 30ml to at least 1000ml. While they are usually used to put solution up a woman's butt, I'm not sure the glass nozzle was originally intended for rectal insertion. The nozzles are almost always less than 2" long, which is kinda short, even if the syringe is pressed right up against the person's anus. Also, the tips tend to be tapered. I suspect they were originally intended to have a catheter attached to the nozzle and that used to get the solution further into the person's bowel. That said, they are very popular props, and look very good putting enema solution up a woman's behind. They are called "Kanchous" and most serious enemas in Japan are reportedly given with them.

The last type are the "figs"... so named because of their shape... essentially a small ball with a nozzle attached. They are usually filled with 50% glycerin/water solution and hold between 10ml (for a child) up to 150ml, with longer... about 8"... nozzles for "clinical" use. A few are filled with a concentrated table salt solution instead. These puppies make you poo, but do nothing to soften. The 150ml size is an experience and are apparently designed to completely clear out a patient rapidly before some exam or procedure. They sure do that.

Here is a typical fig:

https://www.mimaki-family-japan.com/item/detail?item_prefix=TF&item_code=003494&item_branch=001

So, 150 ml is around 4.5 oz right?

About the same size as a Fleet enema

@LisaK "So, 150 ml is around 4.5 oz right? About the same size as a Fleet enema"

A Fleet liquid glycerin enema, a "fig", which is labeled as a suppository, contains 5.4 ml of glycerin, or 0.182596 US ounces, and works in 5 - 10 minutes. It is delivered by squeezing the liquid from a small bulb shaped container. (I'd call it an enema [liquid injected into rectum], but, hey, I'm not the manufacturer.)

A Fleet brand glycerin suppository, (non-liquid) contains 2 grams of glycerin, or 0.0705479 ounces, and works in 15 - 30 minutes.

Fleet brand saline enemas contain 4.5 ounces, or 133.081 ml, of saline solution, but no glycerin. The manufacturer estimates only 118 ml (3.9 ounces) is actually delivered into the rectum. The saline enema is claimed to act in 5 - 10 minutes.

@LisaK "So, 150 ml is around 4.5 oz right? About the same size as a Fleet enema"

A Fleet liquid glycerin enema, a "fig", which is labeled as a suppository, contains 5.4 ml of glycerin, or 0.182596 US ounces, and works in 5 - 10 minutes. It is delivered by squeezing the liquid from a small bulb shaped container. (I'd call it an enema [liquid injected into rectum], but, hey, I'm not the manufacturer.)

A Fleet brand glycerin suppository, (non-liquid) contains 2 grams of glycerin, or 0.0705479 ounces, and works in 15 - 30 minutes.

Fleet brand saline enemas contain 4.5 ounces, or 133.081 ml, of saline solution, but no glycerin. The manufacturer estimates only 118 ml (3.9 ounces) is actually delivered into the rectum. The saline enema is claimed to act in 5 - 10 minutes.

I would like to see ANYONE measure a solution to that many significant digits outside of a high level laboratory.

What's more, the measurements aren't even in the same units, some are in weight, some are in volume. I ordered some figs from china, still waiting for them. - the hoseman1

What's more, the measurements aren't even in the same units, some are in weight, some are in volume. I ordered some figs from china, still waiting for them. - the hoseman1

Not only that. . . .

some of the units were mass (grams) and others were weight (ounces, in contrast to fluid ounces) being used by others. Mass used to be the same as weight until Isaac Newton discovered and described gravity in the 17th century. Since then mass and weight have been distinct entities/units.

While we are discussing units, lets hear it for the new definition (May 20, 2019) of the kilogram! YAAY! After years of problems with Big K, (the IPK) the platinum iridium cylinder in France has been losing mass and other official copies around the world were gaining and others were losing mass over the years. The kilogram has finally been defined in terms of Planck's Constant which has been accurately measured and DEFINED EXACTLY instead of using changeable, man made artifacts. The kilogram was the last of the seven basic units to be defined in terms of physical constants-not man made artifacts.

Go Metric!

Lisa and I occasionally give each other 4 ounces of glycerine in a qt of very warm water, using our dbl balloon nozzles to keep the solution in place. After 15 minutes, the cramps are pretty strong, but the point is to hold until we blow out our inner balloons, one on the toilet & the other squatting over the side of the bathtub. Lisa holds the record: 27 minutes. We follow up with an SSE and a salt & soda rinse.

A question for the group: are all glycerines the same? I've seen glycerin labeled for enema use, others labeled for skin care/moisturizer while others labeled vegetable glycerin.

Lisa and I occasionally give each other 4 ounces of glycerine in a qt of very warm water, using our dbl balloon nozzles to keep the solution in place. After 15 minutes, the cramps are pretty strong, but the point is to hold until we blow out our inner balloons, one on the toilet & the other squatting over the side of the bathtub. Lisa holds the record: 27 minutes. We follow up with an SSE and a salt & soda rinse.

You could increase the intensity by adding 4 tablespoons of Epsom Salts as well as the glycerin in 1 quart. It makes it exponentially harder to hold. You will be lucky to get a 5 minute retention.

A question for the group: are all glycerines the same? I've seen glycerin labeled for enema use, others labeled for skin care/moisturizer while others labeled vegetable glycerin.

Glycerine is Glycerine.

It is all the same, including "vegetable" glycerine.

@Moppys_jalopy said

You could increase the intensity by adding 4 tablespoons of Epsom Salts as well as the glycerin in 1 quart. It makes it exponentially harder to hold. You will be lucky to get a 5 minute retention.

Let me know how your girlfriends respond to Susie's Very Rough Ride Enema.

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I'm curious to hear how long they can hold it without using a well pumped up balloon catheter.

You can hear the grumbling across the room when you're holding it.

I've mostly been using a 50/50 glycerin/water enema and occasionally a baking soda/sugar (simple syrup) enema but the latter usually leaves me with more residual peristalsis and cramping than glycerin. I can clear the glycerin with a rinse water enema and stop the contractions.

Has anyone ever added Epsom salts to either of these enemas who could comment on the results?