Unwanted School PE Nudity

I am writing this from a UK Schools' perspective in the 1960s (but I am sure it probably applies to schools at the time in the USA, France, Germany or indeed anywhere in Europe or the ROTW).

In common with many, I am sure, there was a lot of 'naturally occurring nudity' in those days and boyish camaraderie ( as well as risky - in terms of being punished with CP if caught - stupidity / horseplay etc). We had PE / Games twice per week with mandatory showers. I was in the school Cross Country team....so that included additional training / competitions etc....all of which also involved having to strip naked to shower. We also had swimming lessons (ditto - although we wore speedos for the actual lesson time).

Everyone of that age / era will recall a lot of nudity whilst changing / showering etc. You got used to it, up to a point. Of course, there were always 'poseurs' who flaunted their naked bodies. Others just got on with it, without being shy. Some boys were modest, others were prudish. We all knew the unwritten rules and (historical)....boys simply dared not behave in any way which might see them accused of being 'gay' or 'queer'. We checked each other out discreetly. All part of boyhood adolescence.

There were occasions when nudity caused humiliation and embarrassment though. I will relate an incident in my next post/comment to show what I mean. Maybe it will evoke similar memories from others.

Certainly remember the naked walk through showers after PE lessons in a large UK Comprehensive School. It was total embarrassment to begin with starting at 11yo, coming from Junior school. Soon got used to it though and getting to understand the different stages of development.

PE lessons in the gym was also down to just shorts and daps.

Yes I was educated in the 1960s in a grammar school where we had PE and Games. I remember the first time after PE where we had to take a shower. There was this teacher telling us to take all our clothes off. I must have been one of the last to do this.

I remember seeing boys with pubic hair and circumcised boys that fascinated me. I must have been one of the last to develop pubic hair in our year group so that was embarrassing.

I do remember seeing a few erections in the showers which was a bit of a comfort to me as I knew that my penis did the same. However, I would have died if it ever happened to me in view of the rest of the class. Most boys who got stiff tried their best to hide it but I could name a couple that did not care at all about being seen like that and would actually wank in the showers(not all the way I may add but just doing the hand movements)

I can recall the "shower" experience at school in the 60's. Naked with all the other classmates. Embarrassing for me at the time but a fond memory now.

Thanks Rapide. Just the kind of initial response I was hoping for. Maybe you might go into more detail at some point?

Like you, our indoor PE kit was even more basic. Just skimpy white shorts ( we were not allowed to wear anything beneath them). So...PE....virtually naked (hahahaha)..bare-chested and barefooted. But...we had to get used to it.

Rapide mentions the 'walk back to the showers'. This is the crux of my account. In our case, it was a c. 1 minute walk to the showers ( we were not allowed to run - upon the very real possibility of being caned). The trouble was that a good part of our route was down a long, narrow corridor with four classrooms on either side.

They were the type of classrooms where the lower half of the frontage was brick and the upper part was large, victorian style windows. So, we were always aware of people watching us go by at the end of PE.

For three of my seven years at G S, PE lessons coincided with lesson changeovers and/or break time. The result (at those times) was the corridor teeming with over 200 pupils of all ages....boys and girls. We were always hurrying to get showered / changed as fast as possible, so as not to be late for the next lesson (detention offence) or break time. You will mot be surprised to hear that many people took great delight in 'accidentally' blocking your way, or sniggering or making snide remarks about your physique etc. To be honest..usually sweating, feeling stressed (time) & wearing next to nothing. ..it was sometimes very uncomfortable trying to get through this throng. There were times when people would try to touch you up as well!!

On this one occasion. People, quietly laughing and sniggering had blocked my way several times as I tried to squeeze, push past them. Then, a 5th form boy (I was in the 3rd Year at the time) came up behind me without warning and yanked my PE shorts right down, in full view of everyone nearby. It was just horrible and I was mortified. There were quite a few older (& younger) girls around. Some were laughing, but some...I could tell, were sympathetic (they were still staring though). Most of the boys close by just sneered or laughed nastily.

I was not a strong, athletic boy...nor was I fighter. But..,I just totally lost it. I felt a raging sense of injustice and incredibly acute embarrassment. I just rounded on the much older, bigger boy and swore (seriously for our ultra repressive GS) at him "You f******* b******" (as I swiftly pulled my shorts up). I just hurled myself at him (taking him completely by surprise and catching him off balance) he fell to the floor with me on top of him, punching wildly. (I told you I lost it...fighting was a caning offence).

The debacle only lasted a few seconds. A classroom door opened and there stood Mr Jarvis....a really vicious, nasty and terrifying Latin master."HOW DARE YOU!!! GET IN HERE THIS IINSTANT, THE PAIR OF YOU!!!" He was brutally efficient. He slippered both of us immediately before verbally haranguing / admonishing us. My three whacks probably hurt more, because I only had my flimsy shorts on.

His diatribe was vicious (it is hard to explain just how intimidating some of these peoole were). When he had finished,leaving us in no doubt that we would be sent to our even more terrifying headmaster , he asked us if we had anything to say for ourselves. I suddenly felt very vulnerable and self -conscious..standing virtually naked..still sweating slightly, heart pounding, trying not to cry. I was really on the edge of tears. I just blurted out that I was sorry, but it was so unfair because I had my shorts pulled down in front of everyone. Mr Jarvis glared daggers at me. The older boy denied it. My heart sank.

Then a voice piped up "Mr Jarvis,please may I speak Sir?" I had not noticed two 6th Form girls sitting in a corner of the classroom near the corridor window. In fact, the girl who spoke was the school's Head Girl. I knew her name & that she was something of a Latin expert and a favourite of MrJarvis. He glanced in her direction and amazingly said.'Hmmmm? Very well then."

"Begging your pardon Mr Jarvis, but Antrobus is lying. I saw him pull this poor younger boy's shorts down quite deliberately in front of everyone. He...he was....naked Mr Jarvis and everyone was laughing. Antrobus thought it was funny Sir.I think it was a despicable thing to do Sir."

I blushed and hung my head, embarrassed, but pleased she had spoken up. The other boy was flushed as Jarvis turned on him."Deplorable, disgusting behaviour. Worse still, you lied to me boy!! I shall deal with you in a moment." He turned to me."You should not have been fighting boy...but.,under the circumstances....you will do 2 nights dtention. Now..get out of my sight...before I change my mind.OUT!! NOW!!" I shot out of the room like a rocket as Mr Jarvis bellowed 'WALK, BOY, WALK!!". As Ipassed the window I smiled weakly but gratefully at the Head Girl.

I still had to do the detentions and endure a few nasty jibes for a few days afterwards, but it could have been so much worse....

Thanks for your memories guys. I first discussed this incident with another member on here in private a few months ago. At the time, I had forgotten the odious older boy's name and the reason I was miraculously not caned..which was a horrifying prospect.....

I’m a bit later going to secondary school in 1973 and being there till 79. In primary we changed into gym stuff in the class and it was nothing more than swapping your trousers for shorts . But secondary was a lot different. I’ve written elsewhere that nudity in my family was the bare (all puns intended ) minimum , ie getting changed for bed, having a bath. I suppose living in Scotland before the days of widespread central heating helped with this. It was simply too cold to hang around naked! But when in secondary school gym involved a full strip with shower afterwards . Games which usually involved rugby or football was the same and we also had a swimming pool . Blue speedos were the order of the day, but there weren’t enough changing cubicles which meant sometimes you had to share.

It was embarrassing to me but I think this is where my interest in underwear and the Male anatomy really began. I was very interested in whatguyswore beneath . It was the days of y fronts or similar pants with two seems down side . Most were white, but some had blue or red pants with white seems and I remember seeing yellow , orange and then various patterns . This was the 70s!

Of course it was also interesting seeing guys nude . I was a late developer in terms of pubes but many of my class mates developed glorious bushes , some hairy bottoms too, especially the guy we knew as “bum fluff”.

Best were the gym changing rooms . Bare concrete blocks, wooden benches big open shower area . It was great watching but you didn’t dare let anyone see you for fear of being branded poof . Happy days .

I grew up in France, 1970s-1980s. Corporal punishment was officially prohibited in public education (though some teachers overstepped the bounds) so it was not an issue, even in P.E. Horsing around could earn us detention, though I don't recall occurrences of that during P.E.

Regarding nudity, the main occurrence was changing in and out of swimming suits, which happened in common changing rooms (there were individual cubicles for changing, but they were for use by adults, or paying swimming pool customers outside of school hours). There, some boys stroke each other with towels. Unsure how things were in the girls' changing room! I got my share of embarrassment at times with unwanted hard-ons at the pool, which was co-ed.

I also recall some exhibitionism in the back of the bus back from the swimming pool: some boys, perhaps not fully consenting, would be made to show their willy.

For other kind of P.E. one did not have to remove briefs unless taking a shower. Showers were not mandatory. My recollection is that only the most self-assured boys, the ones with earliest development, would shower after P.E.

Pecan / A Munro (& others). Many thanks for sharing your recollections - all extremely interesting. Yes......being naked in the showers / changing rooms etc., with other boys could be embarrassing sometimes, but at least it was 'normal' up to a point. Pecan.....yes!! How many of us used to mess around flicking / whipping towels onto someone's bottom (or having it done to you - of course). Or the playfights arising from trying to pull a towel off someone (or resisting someone trying to pull yours away). Mostly - it was not too serious.

The incident I recalled (although very brief) was (IMHO) nasty and very embarrassing because it happened in a school corridor, crowded with fully dressed older and younger boys and girls. It just felt awful that everyone (or so it seemed) had (albeit briefly) seen my bare backside, cock and balls. Everyone seemed to be staring....quite a few people laughed (as they would inevitably do as regards such incidents), some sneered...etc., etc. Sometimes it was mildly embarrassing to be naked in front of boy classmates in a changing room....but you got used to it.....but, to effectively have a CM/NM, CF/NM forced upon you without warning....was horrible. That is why I totally lost all self - control and I was overcome with rage. Hahaha. Oh my days......it was over 50 years ago now....

Yes we had the towel flicking game where someone was made to run the gauntlet of the cubicles either side and you aimed for his lovely bare bottom. Can’t quite remember the circumstances as we usually had limited time to change .

The other thing I remember were gym teachers who used to watch the changing rooms and showers . At the time I thought it was to prevent high spirits but now not so sure .

I wonder what happens in school changing rooms these days in these politically correct times

Running the towels gauntlet. Oh my. Yes, we did that too. Sometimes we would stupidly do it for a boyish dare.

We hated our PE master, who was decidedly creepy...but we were also extremely scared of him. I think it was legitimate that he would appear (& occasionally other staff too) to ensure that we were not misbehaving too much.

I was never aware of anything untoward in the changing rooms/ showers. I'm sure that some of us felt that there might have sometimes been people who liked to see us undressed.....but it didn't bother us unduly & nothing could ever be proved of course. One thing is for sure...during the course of a typical week, there was a lot of regular communal nudity.

Indeed when you think about it with one period of gym , one of games and one of swimming , would have been getting changed/naked at school for 30 minutes a week. It’s definitely where my love of seeing guys in pants came from

Amunro: You had cubicles to change? Wow, luxury. All the changing facilities that I experienced in school P.E. were common rooms, though segregated by sex.

Swimming pools had both cubicles and common rooms, but cubicles were not to be used by school groups (except from teachers), only by "normal" customers at times when the pool was not in use by schools.

I can echo other posters comments about this.

In addition to compulsory PE lessons I competed for the school in swimming, football (soccer) and cross country running. As such I would often be in communal showers 2 or 3 times a week.

The initial feeling when it started in secondary school was one of novelty and shared daring at the new experience. I was curious and intrigued at seeing my friends with no clothes on and seeing the differences and similarities between us.

As I got a little older and became a little more self aware I suspected that perhaps other boys were looking at and judging me in the same way that I was looking at and judging them. This realisation made me more self conscious and a little embarrassed.

As others have said, it wasn't acceptable to be caught looking or to say anything that might suggest that you had been looking whilst in the changing rooms. However anyone who was particularly well endowed or a particularly late developer would be teased or remarked upon in other circumstances so in retrospect it was obvious that everyine was looking at everyone else!

How great to see Andrew posting on the main discussion board. He has a lot of experience of this type of thing...a lot. His observations and comments are remarkably perceptive. Personally, I hope he might be encouraged to post more in the future...or to comment about the experiences of other members. I just love to read about school / PE medicals...or indeed anything similar from people's childhood / teen years.

Pecan, the cubicles were only for swimming pool. The main gym and games (outdoor) changing rooms were just concrete block walls painted over with wooden benches and pegs to hang your gear on. Large open areas with large tiled shower room

My experiences were nowhere near as bad as some of the ones described below!

At infant school indoor PE was done in the school hall and we stripped down to our underwear in the classroom. Boys in vest and briefs in those day, or just briefs and shirtless if it was hot, and girls in knickers and vest.

At junior school, we changed in the classroom to shorts and a t-shirt, still co-Ed for PE, so the girls got to see us boys shirtless but that was it.

When I went to senior school at 11 it was a different world. Boys and girls obviously got changed in separate changing room and PE was single sex, a couple of times a week. For most things outside we wore a rugby top and shorts all year round (including athletics in the summer!) though if it was warm the teachers would let us go shirtless. For indoor gymnastics though we would be shirtless and barefoot only wearing white shorts, although we kept our boxers on underneath not having to go commando or anything.

Showers were not officially compulsory, but everyone had one in the communal showers. Later on in my time at school, some guys went into the shower still wearing their boxers which I never quite got. Nothing that much went on in the changing rooms though there was towel flicking (seems from some of posts below a timeless classic!) where people got whipped across their bum or chest.

We also still had to have annual physicals. From what I've read on here elsewhere it seems like they were confined to north of the border at the time I was at school. I won't go into too much detail as I've described them before on the med fet board, but suffice to say we had to walk in our boxers the short distance down the corridor from the changing room to the gym and got wolf whistled at on one occasion when there were girls there which gave me a hard on down below at them seeing me in that state of dress!

We were in high school in early 60's and we swaqmn naked ( males only) and laways had to shower in open shower room as well as occasional paddlings on the bare butt for disobedient guys of whom I was one a few times--about every guy got it sometime Since i had such an average body and looks it made no difference to me No one was going to spend time looking at me and i never gave it a thought Everyone knew the guys who were big and developed---Naturally I disliked getting my bare butt paddled but that was rare----these things never bothered me or as far as I could see other guys were not bothered-----but maybe some were suffering in slience---It sounds odd in today's enviroment but we just did it and no one questioned the naked swimming and nudity and even the need for a coach to paddle a guy bare---I thought the caoch seemed kind of mean and overly militaristic but one just put up with it he was the boss and I was not

My schools had mandatory physical education from grades 7-12. There were required uniforms and showers before returning to other classes was encouraged/required. There were six periods for classes to each school day, so approximately one-sixth of the boys in your grade level would be in each physical education class. The locker rooms were open areas with no privacy and showers were open rooms with multiple shower heads on the walls. It was a great opportunity to check out the penises and pubertal development of other boys. Every school year there would be a different group of boys in your class so you had a chance to see a different group of penises. The locker rooms and showers were small enough that you could get a really good view.

My schools had mandatory physical education from grades 7-12. There were required uniforms and showers before returning to other classes was encouraged/required. There were six periods for classes to each school day, so approximately one-sixth of the boys in your grade level would be in each physical education class. The locker rooms were open areas with no privacy and showers were open rooms with multiple shower heads on the walls.

My experience was very similar to @exam_doc . I went to an all-boys' school grades 7-12 and we had one big locker room and either 2-3 open adjacent "gang" shower rooms. 7 periods a day - middle school (7-8 grade) were at end of day. Other classes were throughout the earlier part of the day. I think there were probably a couple of hours during the day when there were no PE classes. If memory serves, we had daily PE in 7-8 and then either 2-3 days a week grades 9-10 and no requirement for grades 11-12. It was a bit unnerving at first - some kids would shower with swim trunks. And it's the first time I saw an uncut guy - clearly cut was the norm for our area.

I could never understand why other lads covered themselves with towels and did strange dances trying to remove their undies while trying to cover their arse and bits with the towel.I was brought up with two brothers and was fostered out many times,.Getting undressed in front of others never bothered me .

I'm surprised this would even be an issue. Are we returning to a new Victorian Age? How does an entire class of about fifteen or so boys change clothes for a PE class, then shower and change back at the end of the class period (assuming the other half class of fifteen girls are separately doing the same)? In Pennsylvania, where I attended school, such a PE class ran from grade seven to grade twelve.

What do people think life in the military is like, where dozens of guys simultaneously use the shower rooms. In Navy basic, there were no doors on the line of toilet stalls. Ditto for shipboard life (okay, I served on a WWII vintage aircraft carrier).

When in Stockholm, Sweden, some years ago, I flipped on my hotel TV and came across a documentary-type show of grade school kids of both boys and girls, fully nude and intermingled and sharing the same showers and change rooms for PE. I asked one of the engineers on the job I was on for an explanation and was told that it was the government-mandated response to reduce the country's high sex crime rate. When children of both sexes became accustomed to such intermingling from an early age, physiological differences became no big deal as it yet largely remains in our own Western culture. There was full acceptance across the sexes, sexual inequality vanished in every aspect of life, and there was a sharp decline of the former sex crime rate with the new generations.

I recall the school showers. Beginning in 7th grade and all through high school we had to strip nude each day and shower together. I had the advantage of having a father who was a high school teacher and coach, so I had been pretty literally raised in locker rooms and seeing other males naked was no big deal to me.

It was however when I began to get interested in other boys. I developed a few mini crushes but didn't act on any of them. By 9th or 10th grade I quite looked forward to shower time to get a chance to see the few guys I was attracted to nude.

Northern guy, I think there is a big difference. The Victorian age, at least for people from the upper classes (people who had only one room for the whole family to sleep in were presumably not so prudish) was an era of enforced modesty. But then, due to military service there was enforcement of nudity as well. Through P.E. (recall that P.E. was initially motivated by the need to provide young men fit for service) the same extended to students, and P.E. was also extended to females.

All in common to these was the fact that the young man or woman had no choice. If told to cover up he or she had to cover up, if told to disrobe he or she had to disrobe.

The current movement seems to me like giving more personal choice. It is quite violent to force people to disrobe, or even to get into a swimming suit, if they are not comfortable with their body.

I played vollyball in high school. We had team showers in the locker rooms at our school and all the other high schools we played at. It was pretty normal. We all showered together or groups of us did after games. Then we packed up and went home on a bus together.

For me the only embarrassing issue would be if my butt had any marks from my dad spanking me. Other than that it was a pretty regular thing.

I didn't really care about nudity changing in locker room etc. I exercise so have toned figure, I wasn't the first to have boobs but was a quick to develop so didn't need to be shy about having the only set of tits in the room or the only one with out.

It was girls only so don't think anyone was to interested to looking. Happy to walk about it with no towel if I needed to get something,

I do not think I was ahead at starting to develop but I developed faster than the other girls, my friends I went to school with. Really I had a woman's body by the time I was nearly 14, I had D cup boobs and adult pubic hair when I was 14 for sure, I can remember. I had a good shape and I was very tall for my age too. When we showered at school I used to try to cover up as much as I could when I was between about 11 and 13, a lot of the girls did. I lost a lot of my shyness when I was 14 and a lot of us just did, and the other girls were catching up with me a bit and developing more.

When I was growing up in the 1950s and 60s group nudity among males in certain settings was the norm; boys who did want to participate on those terms, i.e. for whom nudity was "unwanted", were, rather cruelly by today's standards, considered the odd ducks, teased, called sissies, etc. In my youth, changing rooms at the pool or beach were always communal and all-ages. Swimming at the YMCA was strictly skinny-dipping. When I would get together with my chums for swimming (just about every house had a pool in southern California back then) or a sleepover we changed, showered and sometimes peed in full view of one other without a second thought. It was a "man" thing. Except in the back of my mind I had begun to realize that I was a lot more curious about my male friends' bodies and any girls I'd met. We had no PE facilities at the Catholic grammar school I went to, so my father reminded me that at high school I would have to "strip for gym", a thought that intrigued me. And we did, indeed, have to change for gym and take showers in the locker room twice a week, which then seemed to be truly a "man" things as our bodies were developing for everyone else to see. Flash forward to 1995 when I took an evening swimming class for senior citizens at the local junior college. I got a lot of good exercise and expert instruction that made me a more efficient swimmer, and was able to wear a Speedo without feeling self-conscious. But the cool thing, in terms of this discussion topic, was that none of my contemporaries had any problem being naked in front of others in the locker and shower rooms. Whereas showers in high school were rushed to meet the class schedule, showers and changing after the evening class were casual and relaxed and unhurried. Every now and then we'd encounter 19-20-somethings in the locker room when we arrived. They would invariably be shrouded in their towels, removing speedos and putting on underwear, their youthful bodies shielded from public view. I'm glad I got to grow up in a time of greater freedom and less inhibition, and that my peers still practice the old ways.

I went to a boys school during the 50’s to the mid 60’s in the UK and would agree with everyone elses comments. There was a lot of nudity in PE/gym lessons with open changing rooms and showers etc. I never recall there being any issue with this. We also had a pool as part of the school and we all swam nude (there were no women present). They changed the rules shortly before I left and junior boys swam naked and senior boys were allowed swim trunks but that was too late for me.

Most of the teachers were either older or had been invalided out of the army. The PE teacher seemed old but I think he was in his early 40’s. He would always hang around the showers chatting and we liked him. He had a few ‘favourites’ who he would smack on the backside as they were always doing stupid things. There was a very simple lad with a big penis and meaty backside and he seem to get a slap (leaving a single red handprint) on his white backside or occasionally a proper spanking in front of everyone before his shower. There was a boy called Bishop (all surnames at that time), who was a very late developer and he would often get a spanking mainly because he was always in trouble. There was a boy called Tucknott who got erections in the shower. He was skinny lad and his penis was like a pencil – thin and straight! Mr Reddington the games teacher would make fun of him and tell him he should have masturbated before he got in the shower and was he thinking of Diana Dors (she was a British film star at the time)? This seemed both crude and exciting and we were all happy to turn around and take a good look at Tucknott’s erection.

There were also punishments which included nudity – for example a boy who was talking before football was made to run around the field without his shorts on. The school was in the middle of the countryside so it’s not as if anyone would see but it still seemed a punishment. We were also checked by Mr Reddington to make sure we didn’t have underpants on under our PE shorts, he did this at random, told a boy to lower his shorts to his ankles, so it was an incentive not to be caught as you would get your backside smacked. It was very much ‘all boys together’, possibly based on the Army as WW2 had only recently finished and I enjoyed the camaraderie.

@Dixon my reference to 'Unwanted Nudity' refers to a specific incident, which I recounted in some detail. Being naked in the boys' changing rooms / showers became a regular part of school life. That was not a problem. All of us, myself included went through that process well over 100 times a year for (in my case) 7 years.

No, not a problem at all. But, having your PE shorts ( your only item of clothing - no underpants beneath) forcibly pulled down in front of a large number of boys AND girls (of all ages) in a crowded school corridor, exposing (if only briefly) your buttocks, balls and cock to general 'public view' most definitely was 'unwanted'!!! It was a truly shocking and horrible feeling & a nasty thing for someone to do as a 'joke' IMHO.