The porn we watch and the games we play

I like to watch a lot of porn,and often the porn i watch is very different from the games i want to play,

I like to play medical games so obviously i enjoy watching medical porn and there are fabulous sites for this.

My confusion is that i also like to watch very severe BDSM porn.,but what i am watching and enjoying watching is stuff i wouldnt want done to me and i wouldnt want to do to anyone else, so why do like it so much?

Are there any members here with whatever kink that watch and enjoy things that they wouldnt want to play in real life with their play partners.?

Thank you for taking the time to read this.

Peace,

Caz.

Are there any members here with whatever kink that watch and enjoy things that they wouldnt want to play in real life with their play partners.?

Of course there are things I wouldn't wish to do in real life that are fun to watch.

This applies not only for porn but for any kind of visual entertainment. This certainly applies for main-line movies even more. Entertainment in the cinema is predicated on the violence of crime, murder, war, destruction, terror, double-crossing and (seemingly) hopeless situations. Or else it is predicated on thwarted love and desire, heartbreak and despair.

So, sorry if I feel like this, but when it comes down to it, most movies - those that are acclaimed and given prizes for - show situations I would never ever wish to experience. No way. And then in porn vids there are far more situations I would happily be part of. Mind you, not in all porn of course, but a far larger percentage than in main stream stuff.

So I guess you could reason and say that classic porn, showing sexual acts, is more positive in tone than what we get to see in most main-line movie entertainment.

Definitely, Caz, at least in my case. My med-fet fantasies in practice are fairly 'vanilla' (as some threads here say) compared with some videos I have encountered on porn sites, which I have nonetheless watched in fascinated disbelief and/or shock. For example, I have come across some Japanese videos of teenage girls being persuaded to let a 'doctor' do what he likes with them, and being finally left whimpering or crying pitifully. These videos look so realistic (as if filmed with a hidden camera) that it's hard to believe the girls were 'acting'. And even if they were, their young age, and the nature of the subject-matter, seem to cry out for intervention by authorities.

But I can't agree with agracier's position on this. Not as he puts it, anyway. Pornography is always exploitative - if we are honest - but movies, like all art (and by and large movies are indeed art), invite suspension of disbelief in order to give pleasure, whether as entertainment or to impart information, or both those things. (I use the word 'information' in the widest possible sense.) Movie appreciation is rightly an academic subject (even if much film criticism and film theory are myopic, in my view!), and worthy of being taught at both school and university (and adult education) levels. Note: the need to be both taught and learned. Of course, a lot of movies are second-rate, no question!

After a post of mine here recently, about when as a teenager I had to undress for a convention of dermatologists, I had interesting correspondence with another Zity.biz member who good humouredly reminded me of a film by the great French director Louis Malle, MURMUR OF THE HEART, in which a precocious teenage French boy is sent by his doctor to a spa where, each day, he has to undress and be hosed by a middle-aged woman! I already knew the film. It is based on Malle's own life, and family, and, as I noted to my correspondent, is very French - but also both liberated and liberating! I rest my case!

Very good question caz, i too watch some pretty strong porn , one example is VERY severe canings, where the girls are screaming and getting cut badly, another is enemas, i like to see girls getting huge enemas, neither of these would i do to anyone in real life, nor would i want it done to me.

Would like both done in moderation, judging by the amount of porn out there, i dont expect im alone in this.

Thank you William for your input on this,and to every one that has commented,

I really appreciate it.

Peace,

Caz

My interest in porn is pretty much limited to the stuff that turns me on, especially med fet, of course. I have found that binging on porn too much makes me feel a bit weird and de-sensitizes me to real sex, which to me is a warning of addiction. I am also very cognizant of the issue of sexual abuse in the porn industry and would not willingly support the victimization or abuse of anyone, but particularly women and young adults.That said, I'm sure some of the stuff I've seen was made under those conditions. I understand the psychological attraction of bdsm-related stuff, but it just doesn't excite me. Embarrassment/shame in med-fet situations, however, absolutely. Good topic!

a film by the great French director Louis Malle, MURMUR OF THE HEART, in which a precocious teenage French boy is sent by his doctor to a spa where, each day, he has to undress and be hosed by a middle-aged woman! I already knew the film. It is based on Malle's own life, and family, and, as I noted to my correspondent, is very French - but also both liberated and liberating! I rest my case!

Le Souffle au Coeur was one of the scandal movies of its time. Not because of the Vichy health spa and undressing (such was typical treatment at such places), but mainly because of the role of the priest played by Michel Lonsdale. He plays the part of a teacher/priest, a typical type like I knew from my Belgian school days: very strict, academically and morally. In the movie he lectures young Lucien on the importance of being (sexually) pure of heart and mind, he condemns masturbation but then afterwards makes a thinly veiled pass at the youngster. Talk about hypocrisy! That caused the necessary commotion at the time and actually for decades afterwards as well. The Church hierarchy never forgot and I dare say never forgave, the accurate portrayal of a typical teacher-priest.

Pornography is always exploitative - if we are honest - but movies, like all art (and by and large movies are indeed art), invite suspension of disbelief in order to give pleasure, whether as entertainment or to impart information, or both those things. (I use the word 'information' in the widest possible sense.)

What is not exploitive about movies that is about porn? The low pay is certainly common to both. Certainly for porn which is not known for having large budgets or worrying about cgi or special effects. Or a decent sound track even come to think of it. Perhaps porn actors and technicians are not unionised and therefore have less legal and social protection as a whole.

But otherwise? Why is porn always exploitive? Why always? And if porn doesn't invite disbelief then why should mainstream movies not invite it as well? Both are just fantasies.

Perhaps the worst you could say about porn is that it is one-dimensional. It's only about sex, nothing else and so not very deeply entertaining. But, when compared to murder, crime, violence, gun deaths, terrorism, abuse and what all not more, not really very uplifting subjects when you come to think of it. They are more entertaining, that is for sure, but not always very believable either.

Maybe you could say that porn has remained stuck in portrayals as was done in the early days of cinema, when the Brothers Lumiere first produced movie shorts with almost no story line and rather unrealistic portrayals of people and emotions.

Lovely, thoughtful response to mine, agracier. You have appreciated Louis Malle's film (LE SOUFFLE AU COEUR/ MURMUR OF THE HEART) nicely, at the realistic level anyway. Thanks for noting the memories of your Belgian school days that it brought back (e.g., of some Catholic priests).

But you didn't have to suspend disbelief to appreciate that one. Quite the opposite. You were able to compare it directly with (aspects of) your own life. I didn't really choose the best film to illustrate my point that some films, despite questionable content (your original post mentioned murder, war, double-crossing ...), should be read at a different level than truth-to-life, verisimilitude, in any narrow sense.

Hmm, you questioned my statement that 'Pornography is always exploitative'. I was thinking mainly of the sort of porn I sometimes see on the Internet, involving a steady stream of 'amateur' performers, obviously in it for the payment and/or out of curiosity (e.g., Dr Tushy's ladies, College Boy Physicals with 'Dr Fingerfucker'). I guess I might exclude pornography made with knowledgeable performers for a specialised market - which invites a certain degree of classiness of treatment and 'acting'. Nothing to be ashamed of there (arguably) - even in retrospect, by those involved.

The 'exploitation' I was thinking of wasn't just pecuniary but also the exploitation of youthful ignorance, curiosity, bravado, or simply a surge of young hormones. And of how although such pornography might seem harmless, you wonder about the psychological effects on those involved, and their self-esteem, including long afterwards. And on the viewers of such material. (MedFan's post is relevant here, including his point, 'I have found that binging on porn too much makes me feel a bit weird and de-sensitizes me to real sex ...' Would the makers of porn give thought to such consequences of what they do? I doubt it.)

Great dialogue gentlemen,,a little off topic maybe, but a great read all the same, thank you.

Peace,

Caz

The 'exploitation' I was thinking of wasn't just pecuniary but also the exploitation of youthful ignorance, curiosity, bravado, or simply a surge of young hormones.

Well, here we go. Don't say that actors aren't exploited, that they don't end up with very maladjusted personalities, an exorbitant sense of entitlement, are too much the center of attention and expect it be so rightfully, that they feel themselves privileged, often above accounting for their missteps and selfishness. And their sexual missteps are not always minor either.

The difference being that main-line actors do often end up getting paid handsomely and getting admired by all and sundry. You certainly can't say that about people who participate in porn movies.

I'm not saying all this because i admire porn movies all that much. Mostly they are repetitive and boring. But, I don't think society should look down on those who act in them or produce them. And certainly go all morally condemning. I still stand by my thoughts that showing people having sex is of a somewhat higher moral standard than showing people killing and murdering each other or committing crimes.

The porn is boring and hard to keep watching because it is essentially the same over and over.

....I still stand by my thoughts that showing people having sex is of a somewhat higher moral standard than showing people killing and murdering each other or committing crimes.

The porn is boring and hard to keep watching because it is essentially the same over and over.

I absolutely agree with agracier. Sex is far more noble than all the blood and guts. The vast majority of porn, however, is real low-end garbage. The worst rubbish is probably the shitty (no pun) enema porn doing the rounds. A real insult to anybody having more than a double-digit IQ.

Not to put too fine a point on it, agracier, but I do think that you could formulate this better:

> I still stand by my thoughts that showing people having sex is of a somewhat higher moral standard than showing people killing and murdering each other or committing crimes.

First, I've already admitted that there are a lot of second-rate movies! But neither pornography nor movies are Reality, which effectively means that what they show can be either well-done or not - and that's all. (I fancy I may be paraphrasing Oscar Wilde!) Moreover, there are many movies that are masterpieces but involve crime, murder, double-crossing, etc. Just as there are masterpieces of art, literature, drama, etc., that involve those things. Sophocles' 'Oedipus Rex' contains violence and incest, but speaks timeless truth. Many of Dickens's novels were influenced by the stage melodrama of his day and contain murders and violence - but millions of readers loved them (and many readers still do). Dostoyevsky's 'Crime and Punishment' is a gripping, moral tale of psychology and redemption.

I hold to what I said last time: that film study (and by extension, aesthetics) is worthy of being taught in universities and schools (and adult education classes). It has an elementary level - and many other levels.

Not to put too fine a point on it, agracier, but I do think that you could formulate this better:

Yes, I could have put it better, but luckily the stuff I post here isn't being graded by a teacher any more.

And of course there are masterpieces of movies that are about beastly occurrences, about violence, crime, murder, hate and mayhem. They are vastly entertaining. But we shouldn't ascribe any particular moral high-ground to these just because they don't include explicit (or less than) explicit sex scenes.

What I do perceive as a double standard though is the looking down the nose on porn out of a 'moral' stance, pretending that it corrupts people, can cause addictions, is harmful in essence in and of itself and because of the subject matter. That I call hypocrisy. Porn mainly shows something that virtually everyone likes doing, namely having sex. That is what porn essentially is.

I also enjoy watching BDSM porn, especially when it’s the woman being dominated. But I have no interest in doing that stuff to my wife. I don’t like the extreme BDSM, though. The realistic looking raping and whipping/ beating turns me off. I like the light bondage and light spanking/ whipping with a belt, with the woman dressed in a leather corset or bustier, thigh top stockings and high heels or boots. A ball gag is a plus!

I also enjoy watching BDSM porn, especially when it’s the woman being dominated. But I have no interest in doing that stuff to my wife. I don’t like the extreme BDSM, though. The realistic looking raping and whipping/ beating turns me off.

Don't be a light-weight.

Go for the gusto.

You both might really like it, and if one of you doesn't, the dominant one can always beat the other into submission. 😁

Are there any members here with whatever kink that watch and enjoy things that they wouldnt want to play in real life with their play partners.?

Japanese porn (which is often, though not always, well-acted) in which a mother, after much trepidation, agrees to have sex with her adult son (or sometimes, an adult daughter) can be very arousing.

In my case, I probably find it so in part because of the danger of their being caught while doing something so taboo. And perhaps a stronger contributor to the appeal is that some of the stories involve the mother doing this out of compassion for her son, which in its own way, is touching. Finally, there is watching her gradually (though at first, reluctantly) getting turned on by being nude with him, (sometimes, by bathing him), by touching and fellating him, by his embrace, and finally, by being penetrated by him and feeling him climax inside her.

So why “bring all this up” here? Because I have absolutely no interest in playing through this scenario.

I’ve been sexually involved with women substantially older than myself, more than once, but I’ve never had the slightest inclination to ask any of them to pretend to be my mother. (Or any of my partners who were of roughly the same age as myself, to play my sister, for that matter.) There’s an evolutionarily derived sense of disgust that many people feel, even at the thought of sex with a close relative, and any such passing thoughts affect me in the same way.

And probably my own enjoyment of watching Japanese porn with mother-son incest depends on knowing that the actors are not really mother and son... just as I can enjoy watching a fictional murder mystery, but wouldn't ever want it to happen to real people.

If what I'm hearing is true, though, apparently some consumers of sexual entertainment don't have that reservation. There are clubs in Japan where performers who swear they are actually mother and son, fuck onstage. I'm doubtful that they let in foreigners, but either way, I'm not in the market for a ticket.

Twilight Of The Porn Stars:

Presently (meaning while typing this post) I'm multi tasking (lol) watching an excellent 1 hour long uninterrupted documentary filmed & produced by Louis Therroux in relation to the vagaries of the porn Industry.

Comprised of a series of interviews of retired porn models, substantiated accusations, refuted claims by men who'd committed offences against women, the modern day attitude of young women, & their views regarding anal sex as an enjoyable alternative option, as well as “in house” loops of sexual acts in production. . . .niiice eye candy !!! 👀👀

Film opens with a three way discussion between a French (stunner) adult film actress, Therroux & Pierre Woodman on the direction of their xxx rated film, which is anal sex. Culminating later in genuine accusations that the French film producer accosted, molested and abused her.

During the course of the interview the young woman grew anxious & exceedinly uncomfortable as Woodman attempted to justify why he'd put to this 18 year old young lady a DP with him mid scene, which was not agreed upon prior to film production. Later another adult porn model Serenity Haze (name since changed) comfirmed something similar occurred to her with the same person, Woodman

Just because a young woman opts to make an adult film does not give a person the right to take such liberties that had nothing to do with the film, by pressure & coercion outside the terms of contract . .No means no Period !!!

The young lady was a very articulate, level headed & amenable individual, who gave a very good account of herself when asked if she minded being questioned further later.

Next segment sees Therroux in Los Angeles USA to interview Jennifer Steele, a veteran of adult film & now retired after completing approx 100 adult films, mentioning that she'd performed DP in between 6 & 12 times.

Steele, a good natured forthright person became visibly upset when explaining that early on in her choice of lifestlyle she had been raped by the well known male porn actor Jeremy & was to later recant her story in court. The sitting judge & jury believed her distressing / harrowing story when another woman came forward repeating a similar situation had occurred with her by Ron Jeremy. Adult porn actress Ms Marakova also came forward after reading about what happened to Jen Steele that resulted in a bench warrant being issued. R Jeremy is now currently on remand (detained) awaiting trial

Transiting then to the UK for a brief & unremarkable interview with an English adult film actress Kay Lenz ?, who had been dancing away with unbridled abandon in a see through flimsy sarong as the sunlight shone into her apartment exposing her naked body underneath, when Therroux knocked on her door . . She took pride in her “full” posterior with a range of photos to show Therroux while mentioning her peach shaped bum was her best asset.

Across to France again & an interview with a slightly older permed afro (so last century) haired French woman & her enjoyment of anal sex. . short butt sweet😲

Another US sojourn was to see another adult model (superb figure) having the last of her clothing (panties) being removed while laying across her bed, allowing her long silky smooth slender legs to flop wide open & drawn right back frogleg style . . 🎁 knockout blow !!😜

Therroux was to arrange appointments at an adult film studio where, when he approached the affable striking receptionist (who was a looker herself) had a casual yet very revealing conversation with Therroux about how she too liked her bottom pleasured. Visually she looked like the proverbial girl next door that butter wouldn't melt in her mouth!!

Pity Therroux hadn't visited the land Downunder . . yet in some odd way he did !!😁

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Lenz, M Marakova + 1

.Fragmented notes above are reminders only for myself until i can complete post . . .more coming. . I'll finish this in the morning as tiredness has taken over.

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NB : The header / title at the beginning is the Title of said documentary

Everything I want to watch is what I want to do. I probably shouldn’t list what I like watching lol but I want to do it in real life with a girl. Of course it’s only what I watch. There are plenty of things out there that I would not want to do that might seem interesting if I watched it.

That’s my nurse/patient/love to a T. I get off seeing what she has “liked” on BDSMLR. HER MIND IS SO FERTILE!!!

I love orgy porn but I really don’t want to participate in one. Ditto ‘rape’ porn, I’ve watched it and become aroused by it but I don’t want to be raped. It’s fantasy

I really enjoy the old vintage VHS porn from the ‘60s and ’70s. It brings back some good memories and the participants were natural and hairy. My other favorite is homemade videos of real everyday average couples. To me this is the real deal and so very erotic rather than staged boring videos of porn stars.

I like most med-fet porn and also I like the “bachelorette party gone wild” genre. My GF likes to watch any kind of male solo jerking off, and if they start out clothed thats even better. I like to watch these with her.

As for “games”, we generally do medical role playing and massage therapy role playing. We have done a TSA role play once and that was great.

As far as watching medfet porn goes, I have incorporated what I've watched into some of my play. I have even contacted, and played with, two gals, who you've probably seen on Enemarotica etc that are very much into the medfet scene, as well as an anal loving porn star, who actually enjoyed rectal temp taking.

The only other thing left on my porn/real life play Bucket List would be Midget Porn. I mean, who wouldn't want to fu×k a sausage fingered Oompa Loompa?!?

I like watching porn of all sorts for it's erotic entertainment value…it's exciting, but that is what it is designed to be and not necessarily realistic and the producers know that. Just because I like to watch it does not necessarily mean I want to try to do what I see. It may make me want to expand my sexual fetishes more, but mostly not to the extremes that may be portrayed in the porn I am watching. It is no surprise that my favorite porn tends to be of a medical nature, but even those usually end with sex, which is really not all that common in a real life play exam, and almost non-existent in a real exam if the doctor wants to maintain his or her licence, and most people I have had contact with prefer it that way. However, that is not to say that medical porn, even with sex in it, is not erotic and fun to watch.

I watch a lot of genres of porn I couldn't or wouldn't do as well. Spanking is one of my favorites and I try finding the hardest paddlings with people crying for real and imagine myself in their predicament. Most of the time it ends up with a masturbation session. In real life I know I would not want one for real because I know how painful the paddle is. I keep on writing scenarios in my journal that I send to my wife every time I write something that depict me in such scenarios and I'm grateful that she hasn't done it and fearful and anxious she just might some day real soon. My heart is pounding in my chest now just thinking about it.

During the pandemic I watched a lot of porn now I prefer soft porn of mature Ladies around my age. I love the natural body shapes that have been exposed to the riggers of life.

I enjoy e-stim and aneros prostate massagers. I connect myself up to the electrics select a pre-defined waveform sequence, lay back watching the porn and let the magic happen.