Viagra

So as not to hijack another thread currently running, there was a comment of males diminishing performance as they age.

I'm 58, and most of the guys I play with are around that age.

All of them take viagra. Even those who have never had difficulties with erections. Their reasoning- If they can keep fucking for three hours, and come four times who wouldn't use it?

My play with men is mostly at a swingers club. The guys there are trying to get maximum playtime in. If science has created a better way, why not use it?

My gender does not allow me to review the performance, but guys tell me the difference between Cialis, and Viagra is- Cialis will give you a boner, anywhere, at the mall, during a movie. Viagra is more selective, and needs the mental stimulation that says you need a boner now.

Hugh Hefner, octegenarian playboy, says that boner pills changed everything we know about sex.

If the men down at the club are any proof, I have to agree. I can be lying there, totally spent, and totally satisfied, and the guy is still knocking on my back door saying- Want to go again?

The current pills all work the same way, by altering nitric oxide metabolism. The dose may be different, but the effects are the same. They facilitate the ability to get an erection, they DO NOT create an erection.

The urethral suppositories and injections create an erection.

Anybody who told you differently hasn't a clue.

What guys tend not to realize is that they are frequently bombarded by sexual messaging, especially at places like the mall. We're conditioned to ignore these stimuli but still hear/see/feel/smell them hence the guy reporting frequent erections. He was probably one of the teens that couldn't come forward in school because of unwanted erections.. Erection drugs decrease the stimulation threshold for reaction. It's not that Cialis acts differently, it's more likely that one man reacts to it better than the other drugs. Same as any other pharmaceuticals, otherwise we'd only need one drug per condition.

...but guys tell me the difference between Cialis, and Viagra is- Cialis will give you a boner, anywhere, at the mall, during a movie. Viagra is more selective, and needs the mental stimulation that says you need a boner now.

I've tried both in the past, and they both work about the same way for me. I use Cialis now instead of Viagra, since it also provides a benefit for those with BPH (enlarged prostate). And it's just what my doctor decided to prescribe for me.

But In my personal experience, neither drug gives you a boner immediately! Both drugs require some type of stimulation to actually get hard. They facilitate it, but don't cause it. Furthermore, both drugs seem to have a lasting effect on me, helping me to stay harder even the next day. It's not just a 5 or 6 hour thing for me. I'll typically wake up the next morning after taking a pill and have an absolutely massive, rock-hard erection. And that's even if it's been almost 24 hours since the pill.

YMMV of course.

After prostate and bladder surgery my doctor put me on viagara but had many side effects. Insurance would only cover six pills a month but my doctor realized I needed a pill everyday and got me approved for cialis. Great no side effects as with viagara, cialis just works better for me. Also think correcting my heart issue has been a big help also. Just my take.

I discussed Viagra vs. Cialis with my doc. His opinion, and whether it is just psychological or real it holds for me, is that Viagra works more quickly -- and wears off more quickly; Cialis is slower, and more long-lasting. But many other factors are also involved, for example the dose. And, at least for me, both work to enhance normal erections rather than creating them entirely on their own.

Jds4med mentioned something about urethral suppositories earlier in this thread; this is something I've never heard about. Would someone from our in-site medical community care to enlighten us about these please?

I am 68. I had ED 7 years ago, and they discovered a pituitary brain tumor that lowered my testosterone and raised my prolactin. I now take testosterone therapy every day, and used to use Viagra but prefer Cialis. I take Cialis 5 mg daily (love those morning erections every day again!) and 20 mg if i am having sex--they make my erections harder, even though I can get a weaker erection without it. I also take cabergoline for my tumor, which also helps sex!! Viagra gave me headaches and upset stomach, and Cialis has no side effects. As for younger men using these meds--hey, we are guys. Every guy loves a harder erection, and the possibility it will stay hard after ejaculation!! We are just animals with clothes on (sometime...).

Alprostadil urethral suppositories

It is the same ingredient as caverject but in a suppository. It is about half as effective as the injection.

https://www.webmd.com/erectile-dysfunction/guide/alprostadil-treat-ed#1

Alprostadil urethral suppositories

It is the same ingredient as caverject but in a suppository. It is about half as effective as the injection.

https://www.webmd.com/erectile-dysfunction/guide/alprostadil-treat-ed#1

Given less effectiveness, why do you think one would use the urethral suppository, just aversion to needles? I think I'd have more aversion to pushing things up my urethra. I may need to use a drug like this in the relatively near future.

Eric

Another difference: Cialis also works for BPH/LUTS. It was brought up at an appointment I had as a possible treatment. Between insurance not covering very much of it and my feeling as though I would be viewed as a sex maniac if I went that route I elected not to.

Do you have problems with getting an erection at all times, including while asleep (just having problems at certain times is more likely psychological)

If you don't need it then don't use it. Unnecessary risk.

I played with viagra when it first came out. For me, it let me do the physical act of sex long after the mental aspects of being excited by the idea wore off. I would also say hard for a long time after I came. Kind of a neat party trick but for the most part sex is better without it. Without viagra sex has to stay interesting, or my body wants to move on to food or sleep.

Overdose on erectile dysfunction medication leaves man with red-tinted vision. Not only can it drastically lower your BP if you OD -or you could possibly have an erection for more than 4 hours (time to advertise!) - but it can effect your vision!!! His stuff was mail order off the internet.

https://www.foxnews.com/health/overdose-on-erectile-dysfunction-medications-leaves-man-with-red-tinted-vision

This may sound naive but... After intercourse, I often feel some slight irritation of the penis. Second intercourse within the same night may be less pleasurable.. ejaculation is more difficult to reach and the amount ejaculated is smaller. Sometimes it's uncomfortable in the testicles. I don't think I ever did more than 3 times within few hours.

For me the problem is not getting it up several times but the pleasure that can be obtained, there seems to be diminishing returns.

So I wonder whether it is really that good to do it 4 times within a few hours, under Viagra... Isn't this uncomfortable for the penis?

Viagra is powerful - after taking it, and with a little stimulation, it gave me an almost instant, powerful erection.

My problem with Viagra is that I am on blood pressure medication. Viagra drops my blood pressure lower, and on two or three occasions, before sex, I became light-headed, and passed out..... probably due to excessively low blood pressure caused by the Viagra. Needless to say, it scared the hell out of Diana. For that reason I don't use it any more. My urologist put me on Cialis, but not the daily dosage. It's a 20mg dosage, and lasts up to 48 hours. So when I know that Diana and I are going to 'play', I take one pill - and it helps me maintain a nice comfortable erection after a little bit of stimulation.

With my getting ED & low-T five years ago, and my sex drive becoming nonexistent, I was able to restart it a year later with the help of some erotic literature and renewed interest in masturbating. I since had one or two fallow periods, and visited a urologist for the first time. It took a few follow-ups with some Cialis samples that failed to work on me, but a Viagra substitute did the trick (my self-induced orgasms are greater than ever), but to this day I've never been able to have a good, hard erection--but rather a good "chubby".

I'm on blood pressure pills, also diabetes meds and water pills, and antidepressant meds, and the sex pill mixing in with these hasn't had additional negative effects.

I don't need it but use it sometimes. I'm gay and a Bottom. More often, I have my buddy take it so he can more easily get hard after an orgasm. The first orgasm always comes to quickly but, the second one can last a long time and sometimes he can stay inside me without even slipping out after he cums.

After he had a surgery a while back he tried Viagra it worked pretty good but it gave him the he-be-jebbies. He's back to his normal self but lately he's been having trouble with lubrication and erection? Getting ready for some fun the other evening he was working on getting an erection. I usually take care of business but I let him go and watched him struggle. After looking at him I noticed he was using Crisco. I asked, Why on earth are you using Crisco? He replied, I ran out of my regular lubricant and thought I better try something! I told him, you will never get an erection using Crisco! He looked at me and like the dummy he is he asked Why? I replied, well you do know that CRISCO IS SHORTENING! 😧